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Dude, you are listed as a MacRumors "Regular". Meaning you have been with the site for a while. Meaning that you should know that there is the posibility that things will be upgraded at MWSF, and that you are crazyto buy anything shortly before that (either because you will get a free upgrade to '09 with your purchase of new hardware, not to mention there could have been new or newish hardware that would either be something that you would bitch about not getting, or would further drop the price of that MBP you got if they were updated (althoug they obviously were JUST updated).

Long story short: stop bitching about lack of "Price Protection" or "they should give me a free upgrade"l you bought it when you did, get over it. Welcome to the world of technology. Things change fast, and you are naive if you think that something you buy today won't be obsolete within a few weeks (especially if you have the resources to see that the change is potentially coming)

I'm not bitching. I'm just disappointed with the way they handle this upgrade. Like you noted, I bought my MBP because it was just recently updated. If not, I would have waited. I love it!! For a $79 piece of software that they include with a system, I would think they could do better than making people that buy a computer the day it's release to have to pay S&H for it. Why not take care of the people that recently bought a system too. Not having it won't kill me though. I definitely don't have to have it.
 
I haven't seen anyone comment on this yet. And I've just finished looking it over on the Apple site.

This seems extremely useful to me and something certainly innovative. Especially the faces part. I have a photo library of over 5000 pics. I used to spend lots of time adding keywords, tagging photos to make note of me, family members etc.

This just seems like an awesome way to find photos of people/friends that I've taken. For me, that feature alone is about worth the upgrade price.

Agreed. Don't think it's particularly innovative, Picasa and other photo apps have had something similar before. however, all my photos are well organized in iPhoto so this is going to help.
 
Will the current Mini not do that? Seriously, I'm curious. It seems like an entertainment center is the perfect use for a mini, but I'm not sure if there are hardware limitations that would stop the current mini from serving that purpose.

The Mac Mini should fit fine, depending on how big the space your planning to put it in is.

http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html

I recently got an email back from Ara Derderian of the HDTV & Home Theater Podcast @ htguys.com and he said that the Mini was fine for HD resolutions except it didn't like 1080i. 1080p and 720p signals were OK though. Probably has something to do with the GMA 950 integrated graphics card.

If you want know more about using the Mini in a home theater you might like to check out this episode of the Maccast podcast with Adam Christianson.

http://www.maccast.com/2008/11/16/maccast-20081116-mac-mini-home-theater-revisited/
 
Too Funny

This should be a resounding message to Apple. One of the big products of this show is iWork, and in the audience they had a real hard time trying to generate excitement from even just a few people ( based on the clapping from the audience ) .

I think they need to expand a little on their product line. Improving the current products is nice, but if they want an Office competitor, they need expand a little. One of the most wanted and badly missed applications missing on OS X is a **good** Visio competitor. Apple has an opportunity here to make a program called Flow that could help not only basic flowcharting as found in Visio, but also offer workflow design and integration for media use such as storyboarding, or application flow. This would truly tie the iLife apps together, and with a little work, the Pro apps too.

Just a though,

Max.
 
Hard to say ...

I'm interested OpsDad - how would Microsoft have behaved? I ask that seriously, as I don't use Windows.

I looked up prices on the net, and isn't an upgrade for Office 2007 (say) US$200+, depending on the version?

Isn't iWork '09 US$69? Yes, it doesn't have as much stuff as Office, but it is also considerably cheaper.

As for iLife, don't the MS equivalent applications come with the OS, so you'd have to buy a new version of the OS (or upgrade) to get a new Movie Maker or whatever they call their movie application?

Or are you saying that MS would have given you all these updates for free because you bought the previous version almost 2 months ago?

In my experience, upgrades for sotware purchased within a few months was always free, and typically, they'd put it on the old version box a few months ahead.
But even when it didn't, I usually ended up with free upgrades for a lot of stuff, but I have enough Microsoft and Cisco certs to make a can of alphabet soup (admittedly with a lot of "M"s) and with certs came a lot of freebies. But upgrading myself and my wife on just iLife and iWork will be well over 300 dollars, and being off on temporary disability currently, that's a big hit, and I bought hers just before Christmas, so it was more like 3 weeks.
Apple certainly could be more proactive in letting folks know that they're about to come out with an upgrade, at a minimum.
Lesson learned. I'll figure out their rhythm, and not spend any dollars with them when they're due for a new version relatively soon.
 
Can musicians upload to Garageband store?

Anyone know if musicians will be able to upload tutorials to the Garageband store themselves like they can with music on iTunes? That could make the Garageband store a gold mine if it really was a community, grassroots-based system instead of just having Apple contact labels to get some celebrities posting videos. Also, I feel like the $1.99 (or $2.99) TV show price would be a better price point for these videos at least from a market perspective, because that's basically what these are (even though there is some added interactivity in Garageband). I mean, it makes it more of an impulse buy to have it be 2 or 3 dollars instead of 5.
 
This should be a resounding message to Apple. One of the big products of this show is iWork, and in the audience they had a real hard time trying to generate excitement from even just a few people ( based on the clapping from the audience ) .

I think they need to expand a little on their product line. Improving the current products is nice, but if they want an Office competitor, they need expand a little. One of the most wanted and badly missed applications missing on OS X is a **good** Visio competitor. Apple has an opportunity here to make a program called Flow that could help not only basic flowcharting as found in Visio, but also offer workflow design and integration for media use such as storyboarding, or application flow. This would truly tie the iLife apps together, and with a little work, the Pro apps too.

Just a though,

Max.

Max,
Good point. But they should call it iFlow, shouldn't they? ;-)
Regardless, I agree on the need for a Visio-like product. I have to start my VM Vista when I need to to that kind of work -- a hassle!
 
Max,
Good point. But they should call it iFlow, shouldn't they? ;-)
Regardless, I agree on the need for a Visio-like product. I have to start my VM Vista when I need to to that kind of work -- a hassle!

Can I say Omnigraffle?
 
iLife Family Pack: $99
iWork Family Pack: $99

$198 + tax

Hmm. Where you getting these prices? I looked 30 or 40 minutes ago, and iWork family pack was showing 149 + tax.

I'll check educational pricing, too, since I am a faculty member.

EDIT: I just checked. The prices you quote ARE the educational prices.
 
This should be a resounding message to Apple. One of the big products of this show is iWork, and in the audience they had a real hard time trying to generate excitement from even just a few people ( based on the clapping from the audience ) .

I think they need to expand a little on their product line. Improving the current products is nice, but if they want an Office competitor, they need expand a little. One of the most wanted and badly missed applications missing on OS X is a **good** Visio competitor. Apple has an opportunity here to make a program called Flow that could help not only basic flowcharting as found in Visio, but also offer workflow design and integration for media use such as storyboarding, or application flow. This would truly tie the iLife apps together, and with a little work, the Pro apps too.

Just a though,

Max.
I'd like a workflow design application as well with iWork. It'd be a good reason to upgrade alongside the updates to the other apps.
 
I came across in mid-November from the Windows world.
At that time I bought iWork, iLife, and bunches of other software.
6 weeks later, it's obsolete, and no free upgrade for recent purchasers.
I'm beginning to miss the way I was treated by Microsoft. They'd have given recent purchasers a free upgrade path, I've been there dozens of times over the past 3 decades.

I'm more than slightly miffed.

Well here's what you've done wrong.
  • You bought iLife even though it comes bundled on every Mac
  • You bought before a Macworld (which you should have known was coming, you are on Mac Rumors after all)
 
Wow $2800 for half your tuition? I wish I only had to pay much. :(

That's like 1/20 of mine! :mad:

And like Eidorian said, good job on that order.
US$1,100-1,300 a semester when I was in school. Remember to fill out your FAFSA. It was $2,100 higher then that beforehand.

www.purdue.edu

Remember to take advantage of student discounts while you can as a student or staff. (I've been both.) You might have a corporate discount as well.
 
I really DIDN'T know!

Well here's what you've done wrong.
  • You bought iLife even though it comes bundled on every Mac
  • You bought before a Macworld (which you should have known was coming, you are on Mac Rumors after all)

Look again. I signed up today! I really didn't know about the Macworld thing. Like I say, though -- lesson learned.
Moratorium on Apple Software purchases from October until January from now on!
 
I thought the same thing. Avid user and highly recommend. Only thing I wish Apple would let the OmniGroup do is get access to the Media drawer like in iLife applications.


I am not sure what the effect is, but my experience with omnigraffe is you either really like it or really hate it. I am an avid Visio user for DB design and I personally hate OmniGaffe.

Just my 2 cents.:D

Max.
 
You can, but I said a **good** Visio replacement. Apple would also offer better integration into iWork, like MS has with Office. :)

Max.

You have some points there on the integration front. But I'm sorry I use Visio and I use OmniGraffle. In my opinion OminGraffle is so much better than Visio.

*Looks like our posts crossed in the ether. To each their own.
 
You have some points there on the integration front. But I'm sorry I use Visio and I use OmniGraffle. In my opinion OminGraffle is so much better than Visio.

I can appreciate your preference for one product over another.

I would hope Apple would be able to make something cool enough to use and be something you would want to buy no matter which of the products you use.

Max.
 
Hmm. Where you getting these prices? I looked 30 or 40 minutes ago, and iWork family pack was showing 149 + tax.

I'll check educational pricing, too, since I am a faculty member.

EDIT: I just checked. The prices you quote ARE the educational prices.

No, they ARE NOT. Family Pack for both is $99 each as they have always been, not education prices. Probably even cheaper when listed on Amazon.
 
Well here's what you've done wrong.
  • You bought iLife even though it comes bundled on every Mac
  • You bought before a Macworld (which you should have known was coming, you are on Mac Rumors after all)

You're absolutely right, it did come bundled. i just looked at the invoices from my MBP and wife's MBWhite and sure enough, no charges on there for the iLife. I did think they charged me, but it must have been the MobileMe I was thinking of.
Of course, sometime soon I also have to scrape together about 400 for the Apple Care for our two Macs, too. I've been told by a friend who is a long time Mac user that I shouldn't be without it, especially after 3 months.
I'm reminded of the theme song for "The Apprentice".
 
No, they ARE NOT. Family Pack for both is $99 each as they have always been, not education prices. Probably even cheaper when listed on Amazon.

Hmm. My hallucination is not looking like yours, I just double checked.
Haven't checked Amazon yet, but on Apple's site, I'm not getting the same results you are unless I go to my college's store for educational pricing!

Must be the 60's coming back on me again.
 
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