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I think the iPhone 4 will perform admirably. The camera performance alone looks like it'll be stunning. With 5 megapixels and IBS CMOS it should perform better than most mobile phones.

Although the WWDC only showed us a lot of what we knew, I still think Apple pushed the boundaries.

I made a little video about it here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mLb2vj_JsU

It should be a nice upgrade over iPhone 3GS but it is not going to be better than cameras in other decent phones. And why would it? After all Apple does not produce sensors so they have no exclusivity there. Just compare iPhone's sensor to HTC EVO's one. They are probably on par. iPhone's pixel size is a little bigger (1.7 um vs 1.4 um for EVO) but EVO has more pixels. Both sensors use back illumination. Most likely both of them are manufactured by OmniVision.
 
WTF are you reading.

The Evo is a 4.3" screen with 800 x 450 while the iPhone has a 3.5" with 960x640.

Im not sure about the Panel type either, but if the EVO has a TN panel, the iPhone's 4 screen is better in every way.


he is talking about the camara not the screen. 2 VERY different things.
 
WTF are you reading.

The Evo is a 4.3" screen with 800 x 450 while the iPhone has a 3.5" with 960x640.

Im not sure about the Panel type either, but if the EVO has a TN panel, the iPhone's 4 screen is better in every way.

As Rodimus Prime noted, I was talking about the camera sensor. EVO's display is not ISP and it is not as good in terms of color reproduction. Nonetheless you can not say that iPhones 4's screen is better in every way. Size matters. Most people are very impressed with the huge difference the EVO's screen size makes for many applications (internet browsing being one of them).
 
As Rodimus Prime noted, I was talking about the camera sensor. EVO's display is not ISP and it is not as good in terms of color reproduction. Nonetheless you can not say that iPhones 4's screen is better in every way. Size matters. Most people are very impressed with the huge difference the EVO's screen size makes for many applications (internet browsing being one of them).

Wow, a post that's one giant fallacy. :rolleyes:

And for the EVO owners that Ive met (A whopping two of them), they say everything looks slightly pixelated or unnecessarily huge.
 
I think it's really interesting how all the features that many here wanted are here, and beyond, yet we still have these insufferable whiners who still complain. I have a feeling some people here would complain even if they were absolutely in love with the thing simply for the sake of complaining.
News flash: You have LED Flash, you have a 326ppi screen (which by the way blows the doors off the competition), you have better battery life, HD video, better camera, front facing camera and all of this other stuff. The same people that said if the iPhone doesn't get those features it will not be competitive are the some ones that are complaining today. I bet if this thing had 5000 hour video chat time, 256TB storage, a 1284612894ppi display, a 2160p video recorder at 200 fps, teleportation, virtual reality, masturbation tools, a built in rocket that could take you to Europa (one of Jupiter's moons that may have life on it) and back in 10 minutes on a single charge, the ability to end all wars, the ability to end all world oppression, the ability to end all world hunger, was available on every network in the world, including a new network that had the capacity to handle 27 Billion people (around 4 times Earth's human population) stream data at 7.0 TB/s (or 56.0 Tb/s, or 5600 Gb/s) to all 27 billion people simultaneously, most of the posts will be complaints.
I'm glad I don't know a lot of you in person.

Your friend: Hey Jon, The Yankees just won their 27th World Series, pretty amazing right?
You: Seriously as a Yankee fan I'm highly disappointed. Probably one of the worst games I've ever watched. I mean I've seen baseball players hitting baseballs at every world series. Did you see that strike Jeter had on the bottom of the 2nd? What kind of hit was that!?

I'll end off with a quote I read in someone's signature not too long ago. "If Jesus himself turned water in wine, half of MacRumors would say, "Meh, I wanted white.""
 
Eddie L. and savar, thanks for your replies. I must apologise for messing up my post though, my self-quotation was actually from a few weeks back and I was feeling a certain satisfaction from guessing that the frame was steel and the breaks were for antenna isolation. Ultimately it matters not a whit who is right and and who is wrong here, I just find that trying to understand industrial design (particularly that of companies such as Apple) is a gratifying game.

From what I now know about this device I feel that although it seems to some a deviation from the look of the rest of Apple's product line, in terms of design philosophy it ranks amongst the most "Apple" of things they have ever made.
 
As for the microSim card things I think they did that to discourage jail breaking as no point to unlock if you can not use it on another network any how.
Considering you can make a micro SIM with a pair of scissors, that argument really doesn't fly.
 
Remember how Steve declared 2005 "The Year of HD Video!"? He said to run out and get a $3500 Sony FX and start making movies.

The camera shot interlaced 1080i only. Wonder what this new HD boondoggle looks like at 30fps.
 
I live in Washington, DC, and my service is fine. I never drop calls. The downloads are slow, but it's my first smartphone so I can't compare it to any other experience I have had. The AT&T website is AWFUL, pure stinking awful. But I only use it once a month so I've gotten over that.

Customer relations for AT&T is much better than Verizon's, IMO. Verizon would always call me up and try to sell me new phones or new plans, or two phones for the same plan. I.e. a bunch of garbage I didn't need or want.

Verizon reps would also lie about things just to get you off the phone. One rep would claim to reset the whatsidoozit on your your account, I'd hang up and the damn thing still wouldn't work, call back, wait 20 minutes for another rep, and that rep says that my whatsidoozit hasn't been reset in over a year. "But the last guy said that's exactly what he did!" "Well, he must have been mistaken."

I had to write the Better Business Bureau to get Verizon to fix one of their more egregious mistakes on my account.

I have to concur....AT&T in the washington d.c. area is pretty good. Then again, I'm still using a Iphone first generation (2G).
 
Maryland/DC has good AT&T coverage. And Florida isn't bad, either. Two of the places I've been to the most, since having the iPhone. Technically, I haven't been to a bad AT&T area, but there's a lot of places I haven't gone.

However, I'm still on the 2D original iPhone, and I've been waiting for release 4. So I'm really happy to jump onto this. My typical rhetoric to wait a few releases before upgrade really puts me in the position for no disappointments. It also makes getting that upgrade like Christmas all over again. I'd probably skip it if I had 3GS, but I technically saved a lot of money by sticking to my guns and waiting it out.

My phone data usage habits are currently geared towards the lower end of the spectrum, but perhaps, in 2 years, maybe I'll eventually change that. I've been conditioned for high-usage on Wifi, low usage non-Wifi for so long now. I'm also kind of glad because this may eliminate me getting one of those handheld 720p recorder devices, at the same time.
 
Maryland/DC has good AT&T coverage. And Florida isn't bad, either. Two of the places I've been to the most, since having the iPhone. Technically, I haven't been to a bad AT&T area, but there's a lot of places I haven't gone.

However, I'm still on the 2D original iPhone, and I've been waiting for release 4. So I'm really happy to jump onto this. My typical rhetoric to wait a few releases before upgrade really puts me in the position for no disappointments. It also makes getting that upgrade like Christmas all over again. I'd probably skip it if I had 3GS, but I technically saved a lot of money by sticking to my guns and waiting it out.

My phone data usage habits are currently geared towards the lower end of the spectrum, but perhaps, in 2 years, maybe I'll eventually change that. I've been conditioned for high-usage on Wifi, low usage non-Wifi for so long now. I'm also kind of glad because this may eliminate me getting one of those handheld 720p recorder devices, at the same time.
So you purposely hold back from buying a new phone for an extra year just so when you do get one it's more impressive? Wouldn't you rather have a more modern phone for that entire year?
 
I must admit that I haven't read all the comments on here about the new iPhone 4.
There is one thing that i'm surprised that nobody seems to have mentioned. No HDMI output to a HDTV, especially when you have 720p video recording and editing.

Also, Apple must already have the connectors and software written to enable HD output because Steve said at the Keynote, that they had to get a special projector to show the new retina display. You couldn't do that that on anything other than HDMI

As usual holding back features for next years update.

Anyway the new iPhone is a big improvement on the 3GS. So i'll be getting new iPhone 4's for me and the wife.
 
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