I might have missed this earlier....but if you dont run both the computers at the same time, loading the SW on two computers is OK?
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Apple Announces Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther)
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daveL
macrumors 68020
ADC
What I'd like to know is when will 10.3 GM be available for download on the ADC site? I'm an ADC Select member, and the latest build I can get is still 7B74! I've paid my $500/year, so why do I have to wait for a legal DL from ADC while others have been get 7B85 since last week off the p2p nets. It should be obvious to Apple, at this point, that ADC members didn't leak the build.
For Jaguar, the ADC site had the final build available to paying members 3 weeks before it was available to the public.
What I'd like to know is when will 10.3 GM be available for download on the ADC site? I'm an ADC Select member, and the latest build I can get is still 7B74! I've paid my $500/year, so why do I have to wait for a legal DL from ADC while others have been get 7B85 since last week off the p2p nets. It should be obvious to Apple, at this point, that ADC members didn't leak the build.
For Jaguar, the ADC site had the final build available to paying members 3 weeks before it was available to the public.
Bluefusion
macrumors 6502
Can anyone tell me if High School students get any kind of educational discount? I'm a junior and I'd really love to go for that $69 pricing...
Also, based on last year (I wasn't there for the Jaguar launch) about how insane would it be to try to buy a copy in person at Apple SoHo? 😛 The iPod Night launch had a tremendous amount of people but it worked out fabulously...
Also, based on last year (I wasn't there for the Jaguar launch) about how insane would it be to try to buy a copy in person at Apple SoHo? 😛 The iPod Night launch had a tremendous amount of people but it worked out fabulously...
Wonder Boy
macrumors 6502a
Look, im not going to buy a 5 license pack when i only have 2 computers.
I think my i dont care statement is very useful. it not only expresses how i feel, but i have a feeling im not the only one who will put one licensed copy on multiple computers.
I think the issue goes beyond a moral/sinful mentality. the heart of the matter is the fact that people are "ripping off" apple. i think i get ripped off by apple a lot. i bought jaguar close to a year ago and now they upgrade, and im sure those who bought a powerbook on the 7th feel ripped off. the point is, if apple is going to charge everyone 130$ and over price hardware because they know we are so loyal we will buy it anyway, i have no problem with sticking it back to them every once and a while.
i can hear many of you now, "by not paying apple, youre not contributing to their profit to fend of microsoft and help apple grow." that may be true. but if any more of my money goes into producing another commercial like the G5, thats what they deserve. BTW, where are the powerbook commercials?
OUT
Re: Hmm PB 15 is on the truck....HELP
The reseller is more boxed into policy than Apple is. If they give you anything special regarding this (other than re-dating your invoice), they are losing money on it, and being extremely nice to you.
The reseller is more boxed into policy than Apple is. If they give you anything special regarding this (other than re-dating your invoice), they are losing money on it, and being extremely nice to you.
MattG
macrumors 68040
September Powerbook G4 orders and Panther
Well just for the hell of it, I tried ordering Panther through the up-to-date program, using the serial from the 15" Aluminum Powerbook I received a couple weeks ago. It took! $25 for Panther.
Calling to cancel the edu. order I placed earlier this morning right now. 😀
Well just for the hell of it, I tried ordering Panther through the up-to-date program, using the serial from the 15" Aluminum Powerbook I received a couple weeks ago. It took! $25 for Panther.
Calling to cancel the edu. order I placed earlier this morning right now. 😀
Apple isn't sticking a gun to your head and forcing you to upgrade. If you install a single user copy of Panther on two machines, you are in violation of the license agreement, whether you like it or not. Apple did the family pack (5 machines for $199, less than the cost of two single copies), to "keep honest people honest".
Apple has to draw the line for $19.95 upgrades somewhere. If they didn't stand on something (it has almost ALWAYS been ship announcement date), then they would bend backwards forever making people happy. I don't like that the G5 owners should get special treatment (you spent no more than G4 owners did when Jaguar shipped, probably less, actually), but more power to you if you've bought a G5.
Since 8.0, Apple has shipped a new PAID upgrade every 10-14 months. 10.1 -> 10.2 -> 10.3 is not really any different. As I said, Apple is not FORCING you to upgrade. Hell, most of the current Applications require 10.1.5 or higher, so even 10.1 users are currently not being left behind.
Apple has to draw the line for $19.95 upgrades somewhere. If they didn't stand on something (it has almost ALWAYS been ship announcement date), then they would bend backwards forever making people happy. I don't like that the G5 owners should get special treatment (you spent no more than G4 owners did when Jaguar shipped, probably less, actually), but more power to you if you've bought a G5.
Since 8.0, Apple has shipped a new PAID upgrade every 10-14 months. 10.1 -> 10.2 -> 10.3 is not really any different. As I said, Apple is not FORCING you to upgrade. Hell, most of the current Applications require 10.1.5 or higher, so even 10.1 users are currently not being left behind.
But but but, I just bought a 12" PB in September and Panther's not free, this is no fair.
My mommy said.....
and Mac Rumors said.....
It's just not fair. I'm entitled, I'm special, I deserve it, Steve Jobs told me I do. I knew it was coming but I thought I would buy it anyway because Steve Jobs told me personally that I would get the discount anyway. The salesman didn't tell me, the website didn't tell me but my mommy and Steve Jobs told me so. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH! WAAAAAHHHHHHH! 😡
My mommy said.....
and Mac Rumors said.....
It's just not fair. I'm entitled, I'm special, I deserve it, Steve Jobs told me I do. I knew it was coming but I thought I would buy it anyway because Steve Jobs told me personally that I would get the discount anyway. The salesman didn't tell me, the website didn't tell me but my mommy and Steve Jobs told me so. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH! WAAAAAHHHHHHH! 😡
Rincewind42
macrumors 6502a
It is entirely possible that that may be true. IANAL. I think M$ even got sued over something like that (forcing users to buy license per computer rather than per user, but I think that was for Office). But personally, I wouldn't want to be the one to test the legal waters on that murky puddle.
why isn't iDVD 3.0 included in Panther? as i recall it wasn't available for download because of its file size. i'm sure it will fit in the Jaguar disc now. way to go SJ, very smooth............
The simple answer is no. This is from the Apple Store for K-12 schools:
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Who is Eligible To Purchase
The following education individuals are eligible to purchase through the Apple Store for Education individuals:
* Employee of public or private K-12 institutions in the United States
* School Board members who are currently serving as elected or appointed members
* PTA or PTO executives currently serving as elected or appointed officers
* Qualified homeschools
* Employee of a public or private, profit or non-profit preschool
"
not from apple. if you're (or know) a college student, you can find your university on their educational site. i go to florida state university and havent had any problems, plus we have an apple store (sorta) on campus. however, for high school students, you can go to sites like www.edu.com and they will offer educational prices to high school students. usually you have to send them a scanned copy of your school id and schedule or whatever they ask but yeah. but its a million times easier to deal with the apple school for education, so try and find a college student to buy it for ya. just dont ask me 🙂
Re: Still on the truck...what to do
Go to the door and tell the UPS person you refuse delivery. they will send it back.
if you hide you will delay the return because they will come back the next day
Go to the door and tell the UPS person you refuse delivery. they will send it back.
if you hide you will delay the return because they will come back the next day
eric_n_dfw
macrumors 68000
jxyama
macrumors 68040
iDVD is basically useless unless you have SuperDrive.
to Wonder Boy: apple "ripping you off" doesn't give you the right or justification to rip them off back. if you have problem with apple's pricing or products, then don't buy them. i realize you are going to do whatever you will do, that's fine. and there might as well be others who will do the same and install one panther copy on two or more computers. i know you don't care. so be it, just stop trying to justify it in any way because you really can't.
is it more ok to rob a millionaire because it won't affect him/her as much as if you were to rob a low income person?
eric_n_dfw
macrumors 68000
We're all criminals
Noone here is inocent, ever drive over the speed limit? You've broken the law.
Ever take a company pen home? You've stolen (unless your company says that's okay)
Just like a cop doesn't waste his time pulling over someone doing 5 over the limit, Apple is probably not going to sue you for running OS X on 2 machines.
I don't do it because I don't have 2 OS X capable machines and because I'm a software developer and feel that OS X would be worth it because I know what they've put into it.
Noone here is inocent, ever drive over the speed limit? You've broken the law.
Ever take a company pen home? You've stolen (unless your company says that's okay)
Just like a cop doesn't waste his time pulling over someone doing 5 over the limit, Apple is probably not going to sue you for running OS X on 2 machines.
I don't do it because I don't have 2 OS X capable machines and because I'm a software developer and feel that OS X would be worth it because I know what they've put into it.
OS upgrade coupons
Does any of you remember the coupons that came with your computer? I think they were green. If I am not mistaken each coupon entitles one with a free software upgrade.
I am not home so i can't check what exactly do they say. I have a hunch they would not work🙁(
Does any of you remember the coupons that came with your computer? I think they were green. If I am not mistaken each coupon entitles one with a free software upgrade.
I am not home so i can't check what exactly do they say. I have a hunch they would not work🙁(
Yeah, i was wondering how i ended up with iMovie 3 and with iDVD 2. I bought my computer with Jaguar on it. There is no update for iDVD, you have to buy iLife to get it. Do anyone know how this happend. Why would i buy iLife again, what the hell is up with apple. (or is it just me)
maxterpiece
macrumors 6502a
G5 performance
Not to complain about the performance of my G5 or anything... It's pretty darn fast, but does anyone know what kind of performance boost 10.3 is supposed to give to G5s ? I've heard that it's pretty big time.
Not to complain about the performance of my G5 or anything... It's pretty darn fast, but does anyone know what kind of performance boost 10.3 is supposed to give to G5s ? I've heard that it's pretty big time.