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Apple Announces Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther)

Originally posted by chazmox
I did mention that in the original post and said that most situations like that would be due to waiting on other SW and not the OS. Although you may still would be "using" the OS... then again if the other computer is just rendering and you don't touch it, then your just really using the Darwin kernel and not the OS.
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Doubtfull. If that were the case then the software you are rendering with should be able to be distributed for Darwin as a render-only solution. Most video editing software, for instance, is using the Quicktime API's during rendering I would bet. Plus, the progress dialog window is running in Quartz/Aqua.

Then there's the issue of the software's license itself. If you're using Final Cut Pro , you MUST have 2 licenses to have it installed on two machines at the same time. There was a big debate at the FCP 3 road show in Dallas a couple of years ago when the Apple rep said that if you have a desktop and laptop that you would need two licenses -- even if you didn't run them at the same time/i]. "Technically", he said, Apple's policy is that you would have to uninstall the desktop copy and then install your PowerBook to use a single license on the road. Then, when you got back to the office, you would have to do uninstall it from the PowerBook and install it on the Desktop machine.

I'd assume the same policy holds for OS X.


Back on topic - I'll be waiting to see if FCP and my HP Officjet D-145 both work on 10.3 before laying out my $69.
 
I don't quite understand this.

There is only one price..

If you have a previous OSX version or not, you still pay the $129.

There is no 'upgrade' version / price.

Originally posted by gopher
As I've said before, the upgrade price most likely does not include:

Archive and Install feature which is a godsend for troubleshooting preference issues.

Developer Tools.

So whether you qualify for upgrade price or not, be aware, that the upgrade short changes you in one way or another. The retail version is likely a much better release to have.
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I might as well start wearing an eye patch and half a parrot on my shoulder because ONE license is going on my TWO macs!

and save your moral jiberish. i dont care one bit.
 
Originally posted by beerguy
Do you people even read the posts here?

I already posted that my new albook (bought on 9/17) qualified me and suggested folks give it a try....do I need to yell?

The site would not qualify my iMac bought 8/5
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I ordered my 15" Al w/Superdrive on 9/29, and is apprently still stuck in Singapore. I *really* hope it comes w/ Panther as it looks like its going to take until Pather's release to come. Which sadly means I don't have SN to try with yet. If it doesnt I am going to be really upset and yell at Apples Customer Relations.

Its pretty much B******T that G5 owners get it regardless of date while us Powerbook people (who are already cranky about the lame shipments and no warning our orders were comming from China and would take a month) are just plain out of luck.

But thanks for the info BeerGuy. I am hoping it works for me.
 
Originally posted by beerguy
It's a 15" 1.25

I entered the purchase date and serial and it approved my upgrade.
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Thanks beerguy... it worked for me too... hmmm... wonder if they'll figure it out...

Let's keep this a secret now...
 
Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
Doubtfull. If that were the case then the software you are rendering with should be able to be distributed for Darwin as a render-only solution. Most video editing software, for instance, is using the Quicktime API's during rendering I would bet. Plus, the progress dialog window is running in Quartz/Aqua.

Then there's the issue of the software's license itself. If you're using Final Cut Pro , you MUST have 2 licenses to have it installed on two machines at the same time. There was a big debate at the FCP 3 road show in Dallas a couple of years ago when the Apple rep said that if you have a desktop and laptop that you would need two licenses -- even if you didn't run them at the same time/i]. "Technically", he said, Apple's policy is that you would have to uninstall the desktop copy and then install your PowerBook to use a single license on the road. Then, when you got back to the office, you would have to do uninstall it from the PowerBook and install it on the Desktop machine.

I'd assume the same policy holds for OS X.


Back on topic - I'll be waiting to see if FCP and my HP Officjet D-145 both work on 10.3 before laying out my $69.
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Good points... interesting how the Apple rep said "Technically.... Apple's policy..." like the alternative would have been, "but realistically..."
 
UTD no go for my just-purchased 12" PB

Unfortunately, when I go to Apple's up-to-date page, I am unable to get it to work with the 12" PowerBook I just received. It was ordered on Sept. 25.

The form says:
Sorry, we can't find the serial number you provided. Please recheck your serial number and enter it again.

We're sorry, we can't qualify this system on the web. Please download the mail-in coupon for this system.
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I originally ordered the computer from the Apple Online Store and it's been registered. Don't know why it's working for some, but not for me.
 
Re: 15" Coming with a new cat

Originally posted by Winston Smith
Just rang Apple to chase my new PB (after 5 e-mails with different expected ship dates in as many days)

They say it will leave Taiwan at the end of this week or the beginning of next and ship with Panther!!!

WoooHoooooo

Probably means it won't actually reach me until 24/10 but maybe I'll get a new Cat early!!!
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Interesting. My 12" PB shipped from Taiwan today. I wonder if it'll come with Panther installed?
 
Re: Re: Re: yeah but,

Originally posted by chazmox
I believe you are absolutely correct. I just find it egregious that one person has too buy multiple licenses for thier own personal use.
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That's nothing: try reading Microsoft's Licence for MS-Office. We all know that its a bundle of multiple products, predominantly Word, Excel and Powerpoint....but that's not what the Licence says anymore. MS's licence no longer allows you to install PPT on one PC and everything else on a second PC.

This change was probably ~6 years ago now. We were running a keyserver to share ~150 licences across ~200 PC's, and we ended up having to go suddenly find the money to buy ~50 additional full licences, in order to just maintain our legal status quo. The value-added to our organization was zilch.


-hh
 
Preinstallation when?

I'm just curious, does anybody have any idea when Panther will start to be preinstalled in new PowerBooks and Power Macs? It would be great to have it preinstalled, as to not go through the hassel of having to install it in a brand new machine. I'm looking too pick up a new 15" Aluminim PB and a Dual Processor in January.
 
Originally posted by Stella
I don't quite understand this.

There is only one price..

If you have a previous OSX version or not, you still pay the $129.

There is no 'upgrade' version / price.
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I think they're talking about the G5 "upgrade" license at $19-95 or whatever. If it's just software restore disks, it might be limited in how you can install it.

However, I saw someone else mention that it came with box/manuals etc, so it could be that they're the "same" packs.
 
One licence - two computers

What about installing the OS on an external harddrive and then alternately boot two computers from them? 😀
 
I think most people, The ones who say they recived a new Mac about a week or so ago, are missing the fact that the new OS wasnt released today... In fact if I got a mac a week ago it would be exactly 24 days bafore it is released... being a lot longer then "a week or so". I called apple and asked about my G5 order, its expected to ship on the 29th, the lady said that if it was shipped at least 10 days after the announcment that I would recive it with the new OS installed.. I wonder if I will recive an updated restore cd for it though?
 
Every one (computers) has to reside in the same house 🙂

Originally posted by cr2sh
I doubt you can do this, but is it possible to get a student discount on the family pack? Say my Dad was a teacher could he buy it for the rest of the family at a discount rate? I can't find it in the apple store.. anyone? thanks!
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Originally posted by Wonder Boy
I might as well start wearing an eye patch and half a parrot on my shoulder because ONE license is going on my TWO macs!

and save your moral jiberish. i dont care one bit.
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If you don't care about the moral/legal implications, then please just do whatever your going to do and don't bother the rest of us about it. No one is trying to force their morals on you. We are only trying to communicate the legal issues surrounding the issue (and not just to you).

And the reality is that the issue is that the software license allows you to run the software on exactly one computer at any one time. Therefore, the moment you have two computers booted from the same license, you have violated the license that you agreed to. If you require more that one computers in use at one time, you are supposed to get the family pack (or some other license arrangement) that has different license conditions.

No one will police what you decide to do, but unless you have something more useful to add than "I don't care", then please stay out of the conversation.
 
I have heard somewhere (french macbidouille website) that apple give deliberatly "free" copy of panther to peoples who have "new" computer(bought after apple expo). That why your serial # should work on apple website.
 
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