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Apple Announces Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther)

Pather purrrrrrfect!

Life is good for us G fivers....power and a cheap upgrade....Ah so sweet. 🙂
However G4 PB are getting screwed! bummer dudes🙁
 
I placed my order about 1 or 1.5 hours ago and cant wait. I have no problem spending 129 per copy.

EDIT: I just remembered 69.00 per copy YAH!!
 
Originally posted by Lord Bodak
Honestly I think this sucks. The up-to-date program should be the same across the board. Why should a user who purchased a G5 receive an upgrade when a user who purchased a new PowerBook does not?

Of course I knew when I purchased that Panther was coming, and I expected to pay for the upgrade, and if the upgrade program were equal for everyone I probably wouldn't be upset.
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My guess is because the 10.2.7 with the g5's now isn't as good as they'd like. probably idealy they'd rather have released g5's with panther, but had to just change a few things in 10.2.7 to make it take a little bit of power for the 64 bit-ness. so the g5's really NEED panther, and the others supposedly run fine with 10.2.8. it's a posibility. just my opinion.
 
Originally posted by chazmox
Cool...

But I have two Mac's... do I really need to buy two licenses??? Or can I buy one and install on both machines.

I've always interpreted licensing as applying to one human - one copy and not one computer - one copy. When computers become legal entities that can own ( and buy! ) their own SW then it can be one computer - one license.

Also, does anyone know when new laptops will have panther installed when purchased?
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Nope. When you buy a Mac OS X license, you're buying the right to use the software on a single computer. If you have two computers, you should buy two licenses. Actually, if you have two, you should buy the 5-user pack for $199.00. It's a bargain.
 
Originally posted by Jeff Harrell
Nope. When you buy a Mac OS X license, you're buying the right to use the software on a single computer. If you have two computers, you should buy two licenses. Actually, if you have two, you should buy the 5-user pack for $199.00. It's a bargain.
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who knew Steve Jobs and bill gates reproduced. Are you the one who filed the lawsuit against the twelve year old girl....
 
Originally posted by chazmox
Cool...

But I have two Mac's... do I really need to buy two licenses??? Or can I buy one and install on both machines.

I've always interpreted licensing as applying to one human - one copy and not one computer - one copy. When computers become legal entities that can own ( and buy! ) their own SW then it can be one computer - one license.

Also, does anyone know when new laptops will have panther installed when purchased?
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Officially, you have to buy a license for each computer. Or get the family license for $199. It's pretty clear that you can't make copies of your software on multiple computers; at least that's what the law says.

You can think up a lot of silly scenarios otherwise, like what do you do when your friends come over? Do you have to pay a separate usage fee? Or what do you do when you have multiple users using one computer?
 
that's a rip off

No way should you be forced to by another license. If i were you, i'd just load the one copy on both computers.
Originally posted by Jeff Harrell
Nope. When you buy a Mac OS X license, you're buying the right to use the software on a single computer. If you have two computers, you should buy two licenses. Actually, if you have two, you should buy the 5-user pack for $199.00. It's a bargain.
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It's not like the software police is going to come knocking on the....**knock knock**
 
G5 and 10.2.7

I have noticed lock ups and some laging peformace on my G5 due to OS hick up. I expected that it was because 10.2.7 was a patch job until pather was released.

By the way I went from a G4 single 5oo mhz to my current dual G5. So the OS performace was cover up by the raw power of the hardware.
 
Originally posted by Jeff Harrell
Nope. When you buy a Mac OS X license, you're buying the right to use the software on a single computer. If you have two computers, you should buy two licenses. Actually, if you have two, you should buy the 5-user pack for $199.00. It's a bargain.
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When you buy a set of sheets and want to put them on a different bed in your house should you pay the company who made the sheets a "user fee" for "installing" them on another bed??? Do you get it? Does it seem silly now?
 
Originally posted by MattG
Sorry guess I should have further explained -- it's a G4 Powermac. Looks like I don't apply.
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Why don't you cancel your order (you can until it ships) and replace it. Or call the Apple rep and ask for the coupon (if she doesn't want to, cancel and reorder).
 
Originally posted by pjhornak
When you buy a set of sheets and want to put them on a different bed in your house should you pay the company who made the sheets a "user fee" for "installing" them on another bed??? Do you get it? Does it seem silly now?
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well, you can't use the same pair of sheets on two beds at the same time. I'm sure if you erase panther off of one computer, and install it on a different one there'd be no legal problem with that. but im sure no one here would do anything illegal like put it on multiple computers 🙄
 
Still on the truck...what to do

After rounds of discussions with Apple OS Update and the reseller, turns out the reseller has a ton of class: JandR. They advised that if I refuse the delivery, I can just redo it in a day and have another 15 pb sent to me, thus qualifying for the panther update.

Now, when the UPS truck rings the bell... what should I do? What will I do?
I don't know myself. 😕
 
I'm fairly new to the Mac (having come in at 10.2.4). Is 10.3 worth rushing out and buying or should I wait for 10.3.1 for the bugs to be ironed out?
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There are still issues in 10.2.xxxx. There will always be issues (bugs).

Make the move for speed alone! Onward and upward!😀
 
Originally posted by NicoMan
Why don't you cancel your order (you can until it ships) and replace it. Or call the Apple rep and ask for the coupon (if she doesn't want to, cancel and reorder).
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1. It's a CTO
2. I ordered the $99 Final Cut Express deal with it, and I already received that.

At this point, to cancel to order would just overcomplicate things.
 
Re: "Full" vs. "upgrade" price.

Originally posted by nagromme
Just for the record... these prices ARE upgrade prices. NOT "full" prices.

The "full" price is not listed because you can't buy a Mac with no OS... the OS is always included with each Mac. Thus, EVERY purchase of Panther is an upgrade.

So don't expect to see two prices, full vs. upgrade like you would with Photoshop or something.

The up-to-date "free" ($19) deal is only fair of course.
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The absence of upgrade vs full labels means only one thing: they are all full. When you install the OS (it was like that for jag), the installation program doesn't give a damn about what's on your HD (as opposed to Win upgrades who check if you have a valid version on it).

Oh and BTW I believe that TerraSoft sells YellowDog Macs. Officially.
 
yeah but,

when you buy a CD from walmart....do you have to pay a fee to play it in the car, then a fee to play it on you compter...how about 1 more fee to play it on your home entertainment system.🙂
Originally posted by jer2665
well, you can't use the same pair of sheets on two beds at the same time. I'm sure if you erase panther off of one computer, and install it on a different one there'd be no legal problem with that. but im sure no one here would do anything illegal like put it on multiple computers 🙄
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this is bull

who cares if the panther is optimized for the g5... we albook owners shelled out just as much or even more than g5 buyers. this free upgrade should go to albook purchasers as well. this is total bull.

15 al powerbook = $2599
1.6 gig G5 = $1999

another $129 going to a company that's going to delay my order another month because they didn't except this many people to order panther at the same time. BULL!
 
Originally posted by jer2665
well, you can't use the same pair of sheets on two beds at the same time. I'm sure if you erase panther off of one computer, and install it on a different one there'd be no legal problem with that. but im sure no one here would do anything illegal like put it on multiple computers 🙄
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part of the probblem for people who are producing and selling in this day and age.. and why this board is going to have a lot of posts today...you could "copy" the set of sheets and put them on a different bed it's just easier and less costly to do that with software..😎
 
Re: yeah but,

Originally posted by 1adonis1
when you buy a CD from walmart....do you have to pay a fee to play it in the car, then a fee to play it on you compter...how about 1 more fee to play it on your home entertainment system.🙂
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if you wanted to play it on 2 or all 3 at the same time you would. well kind of. Cd copyright laws are a bit more lax than computer copyright laws i think, as you are allowed to make copies to back up for personal use, they dont' give you the option to do it with software. .
 
Originally posted by jer2665
well, you can't use the same pair of sheets on two beds at the same time. I'm sure if you erase panther off of one computer, and install it on a different one there'd be no legal problem with that. but im sure no one here would do anything illegal like put it on multiple computers 🙄
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I really do not know about the legality of the current SW license as most SW manufacturers state it : one license - one machine.

Computers are not legal entities and cannot own anything under the law. However, people are legal entities. Therefore one license per person makes some sense. If you are the only one using the computers then you can install your licenses on as many machines as you want.

I understand that SW manufactures make you accept their license upon installation and could make you accept almost anything ( you must have a corncobb up your a** when using this SW... ) but I think many of the items could be challenged, esp. the one computer - one license.
 
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