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Apple Announces Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther)
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jxyama
macrumors 68040
does anyone remember what the edu. price for jaguar was? was it same as panther, $69?
u of mich. sells jaguar for $72. i had assumed a large univ. like michigan would get further additional discount but if such is not the case, there's no reason for me to wait until panther hits u of mich. stores. i should just order panther online via edu. discount from apple.com.
i'm pretty excited about panther. expose and fast user switching are two of the most eye catching features i welcome!
to any developers with a copy of panther: is the UI really that much faster? as fast as OS 9? that would be amazing - jaguar is great already and any additional snappiness would make panther a no-brainer greatest/easiest/most functional OS available.
u of mich. sells jaguar for $72. i had assumed a large univ. like michigan would get further additional discount but if such is not the case, there's no reason for me to wait until panther hits u of mich. stores. i should just order panther online via edu. discount from apple.com.
i'm pretty excited about panther. expose and fast user switching are two of the most eye catching features i welcome!
to any developers with a copy of panther: is the UI really that much faster? as fast as OS 9? that would be amazing - jaguar is great already and any additional snappiness would make panther a no-brainer greatest/easiest/most functional OS available.
bankshot
macrumors 65816
Sorry to hear you feel that way. From my recollection, none of the reputable rumor sites said anything about 30 days being the cutoff. It was always foolishly optimistic posts in the forums here and elsewhere. I tried to respond several times telling people that there is NO precedent for this, and therefore NO reason to believe it would be true. I said each time that to buy before Apple's announcement and expect a free upgrade would be foolish. I used last year's case with Jaguar (all purchases AFTER the announcement were eligible, not 30 days) as precedent.
Problem was, nobody really listened. In each thread I posted this, I don't think I got a single response, and plenty more people kept excitedly posting 30 days. If you believed this and bought recently expecting the free upgrade, I feel no sympathy. Never, ever make assumptions about purchasing decisions based on rumor sites, and especially based on what excited fans say in the forums!
I didn't want to be raining on everyone's parade, so I never pushed the issue further, but guess what? I was right. 😛 I'm disappointed too (see my earlier post in this discussion) but I fully expected this outcome. Too bad, life goes on, I'll gladly pay the price that Apple has set because it's worth it to me. If this effort works out, even better. But I'm not counting on it.
16 days, 11 hours, 10 minutes. Bring it on! 😀
SiliconAddict
macrumors 603
iJon
macrumors 604
well what do you know. i predicted this back in the summer time, and some people always bashing me saying i have no proof that they will do this. just like jaguar, they did the same thing. good news that we finally got a date, and its good that g5 users get it, but what sucks about that is that you have to order it, you cant go buy it that night. hopefully apple will make good on shipping.
iJon
iJon
Re: Re: So Can I use the Coupons?
ie, pretty much useless, eh? Seeing that now Apple would not be coming out with 10.2.9 ...? come to think of it, even 10.2.8 was available online, and i did not need to use the coupon! so the coupons proved to be nothing more than green herring 😉
ie, pretty much useless, eh? Seeing that now Apple would not be coming out with 10.2.9 ...? come to think of it, even 10.2.8 was available online, and i did not need to use the coupon! so the coupons proved to be nothing more than green herring 😉
jxyama
macrumors 68040
i have the first gen. 12" PB so i don't have much of a stake, but i agree with some of you guys that apple probably could have afforded to give recent PB purchasers the free upgrade. it's only been a month or even longer... i kind of understand the deal with g5, but still, it's kind of a shame. bad timing...
i guess apple couldn't really announce PB in early sept. and then say panther would be out late Oct. that would seriously damage the PB sales. they must have weighed that damage against lost revenue from pissed off recent PB purchasers... ("we got their money already so what are they gonna do?")
on the other hand, it's pretty glorious to see the apple.com site with Panther, New PB, New iPod, better iMac and G5, isn't it? much more exciting than some of those spaces being occupied by Adobe software update, just to name an example... 🙂
i guess apple couldn't really announce PB in early sept. and then say panther would be out late Oct. that would seriously damage the PB sales. they must have weighed that damage against lost revenue from pissed off recent PB purchasers... ("we got their money already so what are they gonna do?")
on the other hand, it's pretty glorious to see the apple.com site with Panther, New PB, New iPod, better iMac and G5, isn't it? much more exciting than some of those spaces being occupied by Adobe software update, just to name an example... 🙂
bankshot
macrumors 65816
Yes, how dare they try to sell perfectly good hardware that was already produced! They should eat the cost for the good of humanity! 😡
😕 Not sure what you've been smoking here. Panther was announced publically in October. Uhh, today. It was previewed to developers in June, but with no release date other than a vague "before the end of the year." Same as last year with Jaguar - previewed to developers in May with no release date, announced publically in July with a release date and up-to-date policy.
Yeah, I hate it when I don't get free stuff that was never promised. Boycott all companies that don't give out free stuff! 🙄
Dude how old are you?
You have two replies to the same message in different posts.
You attack someone personally when they are merely stating the facts as they exist at this point in time.
If you are going to make an argument please try and make it logical rather than suggesting someone prove the loch ness monster.
You knew!!!
Did the computer say it came with 10.3--no. Get over it.
If I buy a 2003 Dodge Viper with a 400 hp engine, knowing that they will upgrade the car to a 2004 Viper with a 500 hp engine sometime in the fall, I can't expect them to give me a free upgrade (either to the 2004 or just a bump the hp).
Like everybody keeps saying "we just assumed that we'd get the upgrade." What the **** makes you think that your *assumption* should compel Apple to do anything.
Also, some of you relied on posts "there were rumors going around. . ."
Listen to yourselves, they were rumors.
The people who bought G5s get free copies of the OS. Is it unfair, maybe, but it's a gift to them, not a jab at you.
I say, congratulations to all of you G5 owners who are getting the free upgrade--I hope you enjoy it. And I hope I enjoy 10.3 too when I buy my new mac.
Did the computer say it came with 10.3--no. Get over it.
If I buy a 2003 Dodge Viper with a 400 hp engine, knowing that they will upgrade the car to a 2004 Viper with a 500 hp engine sometime in the fall, I can't expect them to give me a free upgrade (either to the 2004 or just a bump the hp).
Like everybody keeps saying "we just assumed that we'd get the upgrade." What the **** makes you think that your *assumption* should compel Apple to do anything.
Also, some of you relied on posts "there were rumors going around. . ."
Listen to yourselves, they were rumors.
The people who bought G5s get free copies of the OS. Is it unfair, maybe, but it's a gift to them, not a jab at you.
I say, congratulations to all of you G5 owners who are getting the free upgrade--I hope you enjoy it. And I hope I enjoy 10.3 too when I buy my new mac.
ZildjianKX
macrumors 68000
Wow, I thought the $19.99 was the shipping charge... so they charge you shipping on top of that?
yes they are ... the 20$ is on approximate price for DVD + BOOK + BOX the shipping is 4$ (about 6$ CDN). the final price is 36CDN about 24USD.
Good luck to all new PB owner ... i just got my order confirmation
Does anyone know if you can get the educational discount at the Apple Store? I would like to go to the event at the Connecticut store, but its not worth the drive if I can't get it for $69.
Well you could make a case that you can only really use one operating system at a time. Even if you have two computers in front of you, your attention can only be on one at a time... Granted the time is shorter than in the sheet example but you really only have one conscious attention.
Yes, there could be some tasks that your waiting on one machine and then using the other and, therefore, using two OS copies at the same time, but those would most likely be associated with some other SW and not the OS...
Just a thought experiment - please don't argue back, just wanted to take another view on that argument.
Powerbook G5
macrumors 68040
Same with me, the serial is "invalid" and the PDF sheets don't work. Oh well...at least edu price is $69
shipping method & delivery date
So when they say PM delivery on 24th, do we have to pay for next day shipping to get that? or are they just being super-nice to all the folks who order it early?
So when they say PM delivery on 24th, do we have to pay for next day shipping to get that? or are they just being super-nice to all the folks who order it early?
For those who got screwed
Yeah I think those who bought the new PB should get a free Panther upgrade, what makes the G5 people so special. I bought my mac in Janurary, so i'll be happy to pay the $69.00 charge. But if it's released on the 24th...it'll be on limewire on the 25th for all the people who got screwed.:0)
Yeah I think those who bought the new PB should get a free Panther upgrade, what makes the G5 people so special. I bought my mac in Janurary, so i'll be happy to pay the $69.00 charge. But if it's released on the 24th...it'll be on limewire on the 25th for all the people who got screwed.:0)
I meant the actual retail store where the event is taking place. That way I dont have to deal with slow or pricy shipping. I am assuming that free shipping will not get it to me on the release day.
people like you who pirate are the reason apple has to charge so much for their computers. if you like panther, buy it. if not, then don't use it - it's obviously not worth your money. if you're a student, you can afford it using the student discount. if you are not a student, yet you own a mac, then you should be able to afford the full price. stop crapping on about what's fair and what's not. it is fair that powerbook owners got left out - when you bought them, you KNEW that there was no guarantee that panther would be free. you bought a system that was running Jaguar, which was good enough for your money at the time. panther coming out now is just a bonus.
