Apple Announces 'macOS Catalina' With Separate Apple Music, Podcasts, and TV Apps

Okay stupid question of the day (sorry if its been asked already) but what happens if you don't or can't update to the next MacOS, will we still get iTunes support or will the new Apps work on Mojave or earlier MacOS?
 
My 2012 MacBook lives on haha.
In regards of dismantling iTunes I've mixed feelings about it. I'm old school I like owning my digital music, I maybe download an albums worth of new music a month. Plus I have a massive library from my days of rocking my iPod. So as long as we're still able to purchase songs I'm happy. Streaming ain't for me. iTunes has been a big part of my daily life, even if it's a little bloated, I'm sad to see it go. But if separating everything into 3 apps makes things less bloated Im ok with it.
 
Lancer said:
Okay stupid question of the day (sorry if its been asked already) but what happens if you don't or can't update to the next MacOS, will we still get iTunes support or will the new Apps work on Mojave or earlier MacOS?
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It is likely the new apps will not work on older Mac OS versions. So far the only exception was iChat AV back in the day and Safari and iTunes.
 
Lancer said:
Okay stupid question of the day (sorry if its been asked already) but what happens if you don't or can't update to the next MacOS, will we still get iTunes support or will the new Apps work on Mojave or earlier MacOS?
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If the new apps aren't compatible with Mojave and earlier, I imagine they'd still update iTunes for support for any new i devices Apple will release or release the kind of update that came with 10.14.5 when it updated the device database for iTunes.
 
BornAgainMac said:
It is likely the new apps will not work on older Mac OS versions. So far the only exception was iChat AV back in the day and Safari and iTunes.
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I am more worried about if iOS 13 will drop the support of iTunes 12.6.5.3. I can’t upgrade to 10.15.
 
peter2 said:
Really would like to know what my 12-core MacPros with 128 GB RAM and Radeon HD 7950 (unsupported) can't do that the MB Air 2012 (supported) can do. **** you Apple. Pure greed.
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Mount a Thunderbolt drive?

I have a 12 core Mac Pro tower. It’s nearly 10 years old. Expecting perpetual OS support is kinda unreasonable. The machine has had a great run and works fine under Mojave. And if there’s a way to run Catalina on it with decent performance, the hack will be found on this forum within 24 hours of its release.
 
PossiblyJP said:
Mount a Thunderbolt drive?

I have a 12 core Mac Pro tower. It’s nearly 10 years old. Expecting perpetual OS support is kinda unreasonable. The machine has had a great run and works fine under Mojave. And if there’s a way to run Catalina on it with decent performance, the hack will be found on this forum within 24 hours of its release.
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Why would mounting a thunderbolt drive be important for running an OS? Don't be ridiculous.
 
So when I edit my library of songs on the "music app" will that resyjc the title changes or song title changes via finder? Why not sync downloaded music from the music app
 
jamesarm97 said:
Has anyone confirmed yet if this beta completely blocks the loading of the older "This app needs to be updated" 32 bit apps yet? I am going to really have to think about loosing my old app support.
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Yes, it completely blocks them now. Apps must be 64bit starting with this release (10.15).
 
iVoid said:
um... no more iTunes. So... nothing to change the look back to. Separate music, tv, podcast apps and sync functions built into Finder now.
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So finder is the new iTunes now ? They should have build a dedicated (i)Sync app
 
There are a few small software glitches with 3rd-Party apps on my system, but other than that this appears to be a rather stable beta, especially since it's the first dev build.
 
"for those users who still prefer to own their music."

Or for those users who don't want to pay $10/month just to listen to the occasional track or put music on during a get together. Not everybody is a busy millennial with permanent plugs in their ears.
 
Not having seen the Keynote yet, but my main issues with this headline story will be folks upgrading from Mojave with substantial iTunes libraries - on external drives. If Apple can also guarantee that people trialling Apple Music subscription music won't have their libraries messed around with (if they decide not to persist with it later) it could be interesting.
 
Anyone worried about their iTunes libraries and Homesharing media would be wise to hold off on this update. The initial build of this will no doubtably be a cluster ****. There is no way I'm entrusting my years of music and media to "seamlessly" transfer over to the new app. It won't and will be a mess until they get the bugs ironed out months down the road.
 
michael31986 said:
Can someone post what finder looks like for syncing tracks and playlists.
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It looks just like it does in iTunes. They just took that part of iTunes, and moved it into Finder.

In fact, that’s pretty much what they did with all of them. They took the Music section from iTunes, ripped it out and made it its own app. They took the Movies and TV Shows sections from iTunes, ripped them out and made it one app. Then, they did the same with Podcasts.

Using the View menu in each of those apps, you can make each one of them look very similar to the views you can get within iTunes.

My one issue that I can’t figure out, and maybe that’s because it’s been completely removed, or maybe I’m missing a step or something: I cannot find my shared library at all in any of these new apps. I have a library that’s being shared from iTunes on Windows, and it doesn’t appear in either the new Music app, nor the new TV app in 10.15.
 
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Finally. Kill iTunes, kill that bloating piece of crap. Nothing works like it's supposed to.

I listen to podcasts the most and it's atrocious how ****** the podcast management is. I'm excited to for this change. I know there will be kinks for new software, but hopefully it's a step in the right direction.
 
Finally, what I have been waiting for, an OS named after something I can see from where I actually live. Catalina is 21 miles offshore from the beach near my house.

It is one of the best scuba diving sites in Southern California and certainly the most popular one.

Now all I need is a computer that can run it.
 
MacRumors said:
Apple also announced Sidecar, a way to use the iPad as an extended display for Mac. This gives artists the chance to use an Apple Pencil and draw on their iPad, and quickly jump into an editing program on their Mac for the same artwork.
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Sidecar is also mentioned as a feature of iPad OS, so to use the iPad as an external display, does it require iPad OS to be installed on the iPad and OS X 10.15 on the Mac?
[doublepost=1559615872][/doublepost]10.15 looks like it brings some great new features, but at the expense of losing 32-bit app support from my Mac.

Would it be straightforward to keep my current 10.14 installation on a separate partition in order to get the best of both worlds? And would files created on one partition be directly accessible from the other?
 
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