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Tethering..... So far I see multi tasking and a lot more ads :)
Where is the lock screen plugin? There better be a killer iPhone hardware upgrade or I'll be buying an Evo 4 this summer.



jailbreaking is pretty much obsolete now other than for those who pirate, or those who use apps like gvoice, i.e not available in app store.:apple:
 
Do you even know what your talking about? This is to replace the crappy ads in FREE APPS. Ads are going to be there anyway, apple is just making them a bit more interesting now. How the hell could that be a bad thing?

BINGO! We have a winner! A person that knows how to read and understand the English language. Someone that can watch live coverage of a press event and actually come away with the FACTS and other important stuff like that! Wow...such a rarity around here lately! Thumbs up!

Mark
 
I agree. They could have done better. Some notifications do not need to be modal, and with folders how are you going to know if an app in a folder needs your attention?

I didn't even think of that. This makes an even stronger case for a new system
 
I'm unsure how Apple expects to be taken seriously in the Enterprise segment (which they acknowledge as a demographic they wish to cater to) when they continue to ignore simple things like meaningful ring/phone profiles, the ability to change message tones to something that doesn't sound like a cartoon sound effect, and the fact the lock screen remains an enormous blank, unused space.

Multiple Exchange servers is a welcome change, though.

Jailbreak will remain viable due to the lockscreen deficiencies, phone profiles, and the inevitable advent of iPhone Adblock.

Good thing I own a 3GS or I'd feel pretty jilted.
 
Yup, I'm one of those people. I get ads, but no multitasking?? :mad: Three cheers for forced obsolescence.

Do I know you? jk :)

I understand that you're upset . . . but the 3G is pretty slow and running several apps at once would be considerably more taxing. It's as much about their standards of smoothness/speed as it is encouraging people to upgrade.
 
jailbreaking is pretty much obsolete now other than for those who pirate, or those who use apps like gvoice, i.e not available in app store.:apple:

How about infinidock, infinboard tetheing or mywifi? Getting close but not all the way there yet. Good work Steve, just keep checking Cydia for more ideas. Lol
 
Oh, wonderful. Apple users will be forcefed hundreds of ads per day, and this will be embedded at the OS level.

Apple itself confirmed it. From today's meeting:

"The average user spends over 30 minutes every day using apps on their phone. If we said we wanted to put an ad up every 3 minutes, that's 10 ads per device per day. That would be 1billion ad opportunities per day."


Translation:

We don't give a damn if you are suffocating under tons of ads. You will bend over and enjoy taking it as we forcefeed ads to your Apple products, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

Also, today Apple unveils its new corporate motto:

Consumers = Apple's bitches. Steve Jobs = master pimp.

From the pictures I saw, the ads seemed to be as intrusive if not less so than ads today. And the ads are far more intuitive and clean looking.

Also, paid apps will still be ads free.

I'm looking forward to iAds. It is a reasonable way for developers to create decent, full featured applications with high quality ads to still make revenue.

You obviously haven't accidentally clicked an ad in an app that quits the app and takes you to safari. They suck.

You seem to be whining that Apple and developers don't bend over and give you content for free. They are humans with lives and needs.
 
Looks great to me! All I really wanted was multitasking and a way to organize apps. Both look like fantastic methods. The only thing that annoyed me was that this is all coming to the iPad in Fall. I feel like it should be released for the iPad at the same time :confused:

And some of you people are ridiculous! This was just a preview! The new iPhone will undoubtedly have new features not mentioned today, just as the 3G and 3GS did! Be patient, the new iPhone will be great.
 
This is a 3.5 update

BS update... These things and more have been available on Jailbroken iphones for months now... Multitasking, Folders, Search...

This is nothing radical. And, to me, not worth of a full version update label... 3.5 is more like it. :mad:
 
Guys, as a developer, I just took a look at the API diff and "what's new in iPhone OS 4" docs, and I saw some gems Steve didn't talk about !

For instance, Grand Central Dispatch is now integrated to iPhone OS 4 (!!!!!!!), and UIKit is now "thread safe"... those two tips make me think that the next iPhone will probably be MULTICORE! :)

Another interesting point in the doc, is the description of the new framework, accelerate :

"The Accelerate framework (Accelerate.framework) contains interfaces for performing math, big-number, and DSP calculations, among others. The advantage of using this framework over writing your own versions of these libraries is that it is optimized for the different hardware configurations present in iPhone OS–based devices. Therefore, you can write your code once and be assured that it runs efficiently on all devices."

I don't know you, but the word "DSP" is flashing red before my eyes!

Now that Apple master their own CPU production, I bet that the next A4 evolution that will ship with the new iPhone will be multicore and will get a DSP or the equivalent to the MMX addon the x86 have!

Excellent points.
 

Seconded. The truth is, multitasking isn't what people want... people want what it is that multitasking facilitates. If Apple found a way around that, without burning through battery power like crazy, then what exactly is the problem?

If you want a device that does everything a laptop does, get a laptop. If you want it in a smaller factor, expect it to chew through the smaller battery much faster. Can you live with that? Yes? Then why did you buy the iPhone when it DIDN'T have any sort of multitasking whatsoever?
 
Blatant obsolescence

Which models get multitasking seems a bit arbitrary:

1st gen: iPhone and iPod Touch 412Mhz (too slow, I'm sure)

2nd gen iPod Touch/iPhone 3G: 533Mhz (not supported...what the hell?)

3rd gen iPod Touch and iPhone 3GS: 600Mhz (fully supported)

I seriously doubt the seriously better GPU in the 3rd gen (Cortex A8) helps at all with multitasking, so are they seriously saying just 67Mhz less in clockspeed is too slow for multitasking? 12%???

It is rather blatant forced obsolescence. I haven't jailbroken my 2nd gen iPhone devices yet---but when iPhone OS 4.0 comes out, I will definitely do this if it gives me flexibility over the missing OS 4.0 features like multitasking, which is HUGE. My hope is that the jailbroken models may restore features to these only slightly slower models that are plenty fast enough for features like multitasking --- except for the fact we haven't been upgrading fast enough for Apple.
 
BINGO! We have a winner! A person that knows how to read and understand the English language. Someone that can watch live coverage of a press event and actually come away with the FACTS and other important stuff like that! Wow...such a rarity around here lately! Thumbs up!

Mark
Lol thanks man, I have a bias towards the facts and not the emotions based on incomprehension. If people want to look stupid for yelling when their very basis is wrong, well, welcome to the world I guess. :p
 
Considering they're still selling 3Gs (I acquired mine in January), that's kind of lame, but I for what I use my iPhone for, I don't think I'll miss it as much as others.

Apple should stop offering the 3G phone, and those that have bought once recently should be offered a no penalty upgrade to the phone that hopefully will be coming out in a few month. Sorry for the guy today that buys a 3G with a 2 year contract. My 3G will expire this year anyway so I was gonna upgrade, but all of the coworkers I have talked into an iPhone over the last year I am sure will not be happy about this.
 
snooze...

Having a critical opinion about Apple's actions isn't trolling. The Palm PRE and Android UIs could teach Apple a lot about presenting information simultaneously, rather than just having one application on-screen at any one time.

and that's why the Palm PRE and Android are masters of not much...I've used both and pretty underwhelming. I would rather the app i'm using work well then have 2 apps and have them sort of working well, but to each their own. Seems like os4 has solved it...now I just wish someone would come up with some new lingo for the cliche crowd...epic fail...frak me...how about Epic WIN WIN.:apple:
 
Plainly, comprehension is not your strong point. I quoted Apple, directly, in the initial post. A user, using the Apple device for a half hour, will on average see 10 ads. This is from the boss, today.

Are you comprehending? Do you get it? You will be forcefed tons of ads when you use the device as intended. Reading is fundamental.


By the way, your answer is, cripple your device and "don't use 3rd party apps?" You call that an answer? LAWLZ. Good luck with that one, fanboy.

Congratulations on making yourself seem even more ridiculous. You should really try out that comprehension thing, it could help with this problem you have.

Here is your prize: :apple:
 
Oh, wonderful. Apple users will be forcefed hundreds of ads per day, and this will be embedded at the OS level.

Apple itself confirmed it. From today's meeting:

"The average user spends over 30 minutes every day using apps on their phone. If we said we wanted to put an ad up every 3 minutes, that's 10 ads per device per day. That would be 1billion ad opportunities per day."


Translation:

We don't give a damn if you are suffocating under tons of ads. You will bend over and enjoy taking it as we forcefeed ads to your Apple products, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

Also, today Apple unveils its new corporate motto:

Consumers = Apple's bitches. Steve Jobs = master pimp.

Loved the "You will bend over and enjoy taking it"
LOL!!!!:D
 
Extra iPad features?

While I'm sad having to wait until Fall for OS 4 to hit the iPad I'm wondering if it's because we will see iPad-centric features that will not exist on the iPhone. Their response to widgets on the iPad during the Q&A seems to suggest so IMHO.

Killer update regardless, can't wait to update my devices this year!
 
I'm a little confused. Steve says task managers are bad, but thats essentially when their little running-app dock is. Typical Steve though, bashing something then having Apple do it and its the 2nd coming of christ.
 
Which models get multitasking seems a bit arbitrary:

1st gen: iPhone and iPod Touch 412Mhz (too slow, I'm sure)

2nd gen iPod Touch/iPhone 3G: 533Mhz (not supported...what the hell?)

3rd gen iPod Touch and iPhone 3GS: 600Mhz (fully supported)

I seriously doubt the seriously better GPU in the 3rd gen (Cortex A8) helps at all with multitasking, so are they seriously saying just 67Mhz less in clockspeed is too slow for multitasking? 12%???

It is rather blatant forced obsolescence. I haven't jailbroken my 2nd gen iPhone devices yet---but when iPhone OS 4.0 comes out, I will definitely do this if it gives me flexibility over the missing OS 4.0 features like multitasking, which is HUGE. My hope is that the jailbroken models may restore features to these only slightly slower models that are plenty fast enough for features like multitasking --- except for the fact we haven't been upgrading fast enough for Apple.

iPhone 3G runs at the same speed as the Original iPhone.
 
Is there any reason Apple couldn't do it as well?

And by the way, Apple doesn't include a rechargeable battery to address this issue because they want you to purchase another phone when your iPhone dies, rather than paying them to replace the battery.

I didn't realize you were privy to inside Apple information of their sales agendas.

Sorry, even if the battery was replaceable, a device that would drain ANY battery in a matter of hours, just so you can run several apps at once would be an enormous failure in the market.

The best thing about consumerism, if you don't like the Apple product and it's implementations, by all means, buy something that DOES suit your needs.
 
I wish it was coming to the iPad sooner though.

I imagine we may see something a little different in the iPad offering of OS 4 from a UI perspective - at least I hope so. I love my iPad and I love the UI on my iPhone but I think they could get a little more creative than this interface with the added real estate.

They're is really nothing I'm looking forward to in OS 4 other than the save-state of apps. The iPad (which I believe already has this because everything goes back to right how I left it) launches everything so quickly that I don't really see the need for multi-tasking other than things like Pandora. And even then, it this really "multi-tasking" or just allowing another background process to run? I'm not complaining as I never saw the point of multi-tasking on a phone anyway.
 
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