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happy about the updates, disappointed that i will only be supported on 3GS. Only because i am planning on buying the new iPhone this summer but with this news, most likely 3G owners will want to trade up right away making first day sales nuts.
 
I'm a little confused. Steve says task managers are bad, but thats essentially when their little running-app dock is. Typical Steve though, bashing something then having Apple do it and its the 2nd coming of christ.

Because when Apple does it, they do it right. Just like copy-and-paste.
 
I didn't realize you were privy to inside Apple information of their sales agendas.

Sorry, even if the battery was replaceable, a device that would drain ANY battery in a matter of hours, just so you can run several apps at once would be an enormous failure in the market.

The best thing about consumerism, if you don't like the Apple product and it's implementations, by all means, buy something that DOES suit your needs.

Well said.
 
Good range of additions to mobile OSX. Changes to home screen are good - personally, I dislike pages of apps with little opportunity for organization.

Multitasking / task switching addition is good. I don't think Apple have got mobile OSX to the stage where it can multi-task efficiently. Other smartphone OSse multitask just fine with very little battery usage(*depending on the application and what services it uses - i.e,. GPS ) or slow downs .

Personally, I'll shall be avoiding any Ad provided Applications like the plague. If I have to pay to get rid of ads, then I'll do that.

I'm sure people will love the gaming additions - social networking stuff.

Additions - ability to open applications with email attachments is great - i.e., more integration between applications.

Looks like mobile OSX is getting fairly mature :)
 
Which models get multitasking seems a bit arbitrary:

1st gen: iPhone and iPod Touch 412Mhz (too slow, I'm sure)

2nd gen iPod Touch/iPhone 3G: 533Mhz (not supported...what the hell?)

3rd gen iPod Touch and iPhone 3GS: 600Mhz (fully supported)

I seriously doubt the seriously better GPU in the 3rd gen (Cortex A8) helps at all with multitasking, so are they seriously saying just 67Mhz less in clockspeed is too slow for multitasking? 12%???

It is rather blatant forced obsolescence. I haven't jailbroken my 2nd gen iPhone devices yet---but when iPhone OS 4.0 comes out, I will definitely do this if it gives me flexibility over the missing OS 4.0 features like multitasking, which is HUGE. My hope is that the jailbroken models may restore features to these only slightly slower models that are plenty fast enough for features like multitasking --- except for the fact we haven't been upgrading fast enough for Apple.


Are you being serious? There isnt a face-palm big enough for your post. The 3Gs uses a completely different processor. MHZ doesnt mean jack. You should update yourself on computer knowledge.
 
iPad Fall = Apple Fail .... grrr.... also the continued over use of the Home button amazes me - hope multitasking is implimented in a software only way with the iPad.

Remember everytime the home button is pressed its closer to hardware death - because once the only moving part breaks .... its off to the repair shop.
 
I don't get why so many people are confused about the iAd implementation.

It's still the same little banner you see now, just providing extra functionality upon touching.

This isn't some mass scheme to throw ads in your face. It's the same thing, just with a better way to make content more appealing to a consumer.

Just like today's model: Paid apps are not ad-based, and ad-based apps are usually free. I doubt it will change.
 
Pausing apps in the background isn't multitasking. Why can't my Twitter app be getting tweets in the background? Why can't Mail be downloading mail from my various accounts in the background?

Why can't I run two applications on the screen at once? I'd love to have Mail on the top two-thirds, and my Twitter feed on the bottom third.

This is completely unimaginative. Apple should be ashamed to develop such an underwhelming OS update.

FAIL.

What is this nonsense?

Mail ALREADY downloads in the background. 3 years ago.

OS 4.0 multitasks. As simple as that. Skype will run in the background. Pandora will run in the background...etc etc.

But hey, keep convincing yourself otherwise. What boggles my mind though is that I was expecting people to find something else to complain about. But instead, they are complaining that this is not multitasking.
 
jailbreaking is pretty much obsolete now other than for those who pirate, or those who use apps like gvoice, i.e not available in app store.:apple:

That's hugely incorrect.

- Tethering
- A lockscreen that isn't useless
- SBstatus
- ..and the inevitable iAdBlock all make jailbreaking still very viable.
 
And to give people all that, the phone would have to be twice it's size to accommodate the huge battery it would need to be able to make it through a full day with all that running, and then people would posting the internet cliche "FAIL" tag to the form factor. Given the current state of the tech, and what it requires to feed it, this is far from a failure, this is a fantastic compromise.
On my Palm Pre I usually run my calendar, twitter app, IM and e-mail (3 accounts) at the same time and have no problems going for 10-11hrs on a single charge unless I do a lot of talking on the phone as well. I don't understand why people think consumers will be so completely flummoxed by the concept of if you use your device more the battery will drain faster and if you use your device less the battery will drain slower. The population at large seems to understand this when they use laptops and netbooks so I think they'll understand it when it comes to other devices as well.

Anyway, these changes look pretty cool and its interesting seeing Apple slowly take more and more handcuffs off the iPhone OS.


Lethal
 
You guys must be crazy if you think there are no more reasons for Jailbreaking. Wow, Apple implemented wallpaper?! Thats amazing? So Apple gave us the bare-ass minimum to differentiate our phones from each others.

Hhmm... tethering? Widgets? Shortcuts to managing power and connectivity?

I always saw myself defending Apple blindly and now I'm getting more reasons to be happy with my switch to Android.

With regards to the Q&A, do you know why Apple doesn't want you to have your information at a glance? Because if you just "glance" at your phone, you won't have to open an app, therefore won't have to look at the funky new iAds they're posting. A lot of people do not realize that they glance at their phone more times than they do opening it up to do things. I do this myself, most of the time I just want to look at what's going on and dont have any intention of opening up the phone. It's just unfortunate I have to dive deeper into the phone to see a little more than Text (3) and Email (4).

iAds? Give me a break.
 
There was nothing "revolutionary" about the multi-tasking they showed.

Except that it won't kill your battery and won't make the system dog-slow with only a few things open. It's multitasking done cleanly and efficiently. No "revolution" needed, just some thought and sensibility.
 
Nobody is expecting iPhone to multitask like a Mac


How about this? Apple could have allowed the user to choose any four apps that would have background access at any one time. They could have even included a simple multitasking slider control, to allow the user to choose between greater battery life at one side to greater performance on the other. Nice and simple, and a great compromise so the user doesn't end up having to quit applications like they do on Android.

You see? I thought of that in five minutes, and I'm not as smart as Apple's engineers. What I saw today was a half-measure. My proposal gives the user true multitasking, without a confusing interface.

As for notifications, the Palm PRE (sales notwithstanding) has a superior notification interface to the iPhone, and allows multiple information to appear the screen at the same time. In addition, it's done without Apple's current dialogs which bring whatever you're doing to a halt so you can dismiss whatever SMS, FaceBook, or similar notification is in your way.

Trying to think of ways to improve the iPhone isn't trolling. Maybe you just haven't spent the time thinking about it that I have.
 
While the iPhone 3GS and late 2009 32 GB and 64 GB third-generation iPod touch will be fully-compatible with iPhone OS 4.0, earlier models of the devices will not support all of the features announced today. Notably even the iPhone 3G and second-generation iPod touch will not support multitasking.


This is all awesome news! Except I have to buy a new phone for it all to work. :rolleyes:

I was planning on getting the next gen iPhone anyhow, I just didn't want to have to.
 
Apple seems to be moving too slowly

I think Apple's software development is moving at too slow a pace.
With no support from Apple, third party developers have been able to release almost all of the core OS functionality (and much more) that 4.0 will bring.
Still missing is quick access to fundamental features like Bluetooth, Wifi, and brightness as well as a LockInfo style dashboard and drop down Tweeting, like Qtweeter, and universal access to SMS.
I've become so used to these elements, that without a reliable jailbreak for 4.0 I will not upgrade.
I can't help but think Apple's obvious dominance in the mobile OS market is causing them, or at least allowing them, to drag their heals.
 
can someone explain threaded messages in the mail app? I'm not understanding that
If you use gmail, just like that. All related messages show up as one message but threaded.
So Game Center coping Xbox Live? ;)
Sadly it looks like GameCenter won't be available till the end of the year. I wonder how far Apple is going to go to emulate XBL. There is still some stuff that would be nice to see. I was hoping it would be a part of the OS and not just an API, maybe next time.
 
Pausing apps in the background isn't multitasking. Why can't my Twitter app be getting tweets in the background? Why can't Mail be downloading mail from my various accounts in the background?

Why can't I run two applications on the screen at once? I'd love to have Mail on the top two-thirds, and my Twitter feed on the bottom third.

This is completely unimaginative. Apple should be ashamed to develop such an underwhelming OS update.

FAIL.

Out of the 20 posts you have on this site, none of them say anything positive towards Apple. It begs to question why you even visit a site called "Macrumors"… maybe it's just strange to me. I mean I can't stand pepsi, but I don't sign up for a pepsi forum to voice my opinion of how much I don't like them.

So perhaps. It is you. That is. Fail.
 
On my Palm Pre I usually run my calendar, twitter app, IM and e-mail (3 accounts) at the same time and have no problems going for 10-11hrs on a single charge unless I do a lot of talking on the phone as well. I don't understand why people think consumers will be so completely flummoxed by the concept of if you use your device more the battery will drain faster and if you use your device less the battery will drain slower. The population at large seems to understand this when they use laptops and netbooks so I think they'll understand it when it comes to other devices as well.

Anyway, these changes look pretty cool and its interesting seeing Apple slowly take more and more handcuffs off the iPhone OS.


Lethal

My non-trolling point EXACTLY. Good artists copy, great artists steal. The PRE may be a commercial failure, but it has some features we iPhone users could really use.
 
What is this nonsense?

Mail ALREADY downloads in the background. 3 years ago.

OS 4.0 multitasks. As simple as that. Skype will run in the background. Pandora will run in the background...etc etc.

But hey, keep convincing yourself otherwise. What boggles my mind though is that I was expecting people to find something else to complain about. But instead, they are complaining that this is not multitasking.

He obviously never used an iPhone but likes to pretend. Rookie troll. Go easy on him. He'll have to work hard to earn his own bridge like every other one.
 
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