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Yea, I find it pretty ridiculous that they say they're all about environmental consciousness, why would they sell laptops designed to last only a year or 2? Better yet, why not allow user upgradeable storage/ram on the Pro lineup? Apple is just being plain greedy with the pricing of these laptops.
In truth they last much longer than that. My 2013 MBP is still a solid performer after all these years. This new hardware is likely more efficient regarding RAM usage, so something like 16gb should be more than enough for years to come, and with cloud and external storage, the options are limitless.
 
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I was all excited pricing up a MBP to replace my 2018.

Then I saw it, only 2 thunderbolt ports.

Boner killer.

That’s ok, I’ll wait for the 14 with M1X. Apple, you are such a tease.
 
Where are the demos? Was that really the one thing most of us wanted to see other than the laptops?
Wouldn't it be such a statement to do a demo of say tomb raider running smoothly on Rosetta again with some FPS figure to show the progress from A12X to M1?
 
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Bezels serve an important role with accurate colour perception on the screen, which is needed for photographers and video pros. The bezels are there for a reason.

One day, Apple will reduce the width of the bezels to make people happy, but it will be a downgrade for screen colour accuracy, as surrounding light will interfere with one's perception.
Explain the 16" that more professionals would be using with smaller bezels please.
 
Logic would suggest a redesign.

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But logic wouldn't suggest a redesign for the very first Apple silicon models.

The current chassis for the MBA and MBP were revised only recently for the scissor-keyboard. This is the mostly cost part of the product; especially for re-tooling. From a financial standpoint, it's a no-go.

Also, Apple wants to compare the performance of these chips against existing products - so using an existing design is the best possible start. It proves that the switch from Intel to AS alone has afforded many benefits.

Furthermore, it gives Apple a reason to introduce a redesign in the near future and encourage customers to purchase new products.
 
How does the new M1 MBP compare to the (still for sale, but older) 2.0 Ghz Intel i5 Quad Core? I have that on order from 2 weeks ago. Upgraded to 2.3ghz and 32 gb ram.
Is the new m1 with upgrade to 32 gb ram going to be a higher performing machine than what I have on order? Apple chat claims so but with no back up. I am not sure how to compare the two?

The M1 would save me money and deliver faster. But if it will suffer in performance comparison I would like to know.
 
One day, Apple will reduce the width of the bezels to make people happy, but it will be a downgrade for screen colour accuracy, as surrounding light will interfere with one's perception.
My reference point is the iPad Pro, so if creators can use it for their color accuracy, why not on MBP. The bezels can be shrinked in a way that is not so damn eye-starring. I use older MBP where the bezels are not that big so seeing those on new devices make me noticed it immediately. If that make any sense to someone else.
 
Pretty impressive overall for a transition machine. All things considered, I'm still glad I grabbed a 10th Gen Intel to ride out the transition. But already excited for where these should be by the time I'm ready for an upgrade.
Same. Mine is on order - I ordered when the event announcement was made just in case they stopped selling them - so if something comes out from teardowns or other testing in the next week that makes me change my mind, I can. But given my needs for Windows in a VM for at least the next year and a half, likely longer, I don’t think I’ll be swayed. The future is looking pretty good, though!

USB-C is super power hungry. Even if you buy a charging brick with USB-C ports you typically never see more than 2. If you added 4 USB-C ports, I’m sure you’d have some heat issues. What laptop currently has 4 USB-C ports?
The higher-end 13” Intel MBP.
 
16GB RAM Max on all the new M1 laptops and Mini?
Sounds like it is a limitation of the M1 (only supporting 16GB). I wasn't likely going to be buying a gen-1 Apple silicon MBP for dev work anyway, but only 16GB available really seals the deal for me. I'll wait a year until they can support larger memory footprints.
 
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Lol....people have been saying that about iPads and iPhones forever yet they continue to smash the competition...often times with half the memory.

On a CPU/GPU level; yes. But if you want to keep multiple heavy apps open that’s impossible these days. The cameras on the 11 and 12 Pro require so much RAM that having Safari and one other app open will already close another one.
 
I ordered one, silver 1 TB of storage. But I will probably return it. I didn't realize when I ordered that they had reduced the # of ports to 2, and that this is a replacement for the low-end 13" MBP. I tend to agree with others in this thread that they will likely introduce a high-end 13" model with 4 USB-c ports, 14.1" mini-LED screen, and maybe a 1080p camera. That would be perfect for me.

Still, since Apple has a 2-week return policy, I probably won't cancel the order. I'm curious about the M1 performance, instant startup, ISP on the FaceTime camera, etc. I'd like to check it out for a few days.
 
And if these systems had enough RAM to support that many simultaneous samples, that would mean something.

After every event, the comments here seem like people just haven't watched the video. Why would a company claim that it can support 3x the instruments and plugins than the prior model and then not give enough RAM to do so?

This video, and prior videos, clearly explain unified memory architecture. It explains that data doesn't need to be written or moved between multiple parts of the processor (CPU & GPU for example) and they can SHARE this data saving not only space, but increasing speed and efficiency.

This has been seen on the iPAD for a long time, where I have already explained that my 2018 iPad Pro with 6gb can handle multiple 4k streams in realtime which brings my 13" 2019 quad core I7 MBP to it's knees even though it has 16gb RAM. The iPAD is significantly faster.

The benchmarks of the M1 MBP will bear this out for sure, yet people will STILL be incredulous and complain about only 16gb RAM, even though the base 13" MBP it is replacing only ever had 16gb RAM and 2 USB-C ports :rolleyes:

The funny thing is, the Dell XPS 13 has a maximum of 16gb RAM, 512MB SSD and only 2 USB-C ports ;):rolleyes:
 
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is there a way to find comparisons on unified memory vs regular ram? 16 seems like not enough. I need actual specs. I have 64 gb ram in my MacBook Pro.
Are you using the BASE 13" MBP or the top model? Today's announcement is a replacement for the base 13" which only ever supported a max of 16gb RAM and came with 2 USB-C ports.

 
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What percentage of 13” MBP buyers actually ordered the 32 GB version? I’d say 90+% of current sales ship with 16 GB (or less).

For those people Apple now had the MacBook Air. The MacBook Pro 13” is now only slightly faster because it has some active cooling, but inside it’s exactly the same. It has some more battery life, but the Air is good enough for everybody else. I really wonder why one would buy a 13” MacBook Pro right now, because it doesn’t add anything really Pro over the MacBook Air.
 
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So it looks like if I want to switch to Apple silicon from my Early 2015 13" MacBook Pro (3.1 GHz i7, 16 GB RAM) it will be to a MacBook Air - same ports as the Pro and without that stupid Touchbar!
 
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unified memory, no need for more for this type of macs
Yeah, that's not what unified memory means. Unified memory means the graphics processing uses main memory as well as the neural engine, which puts more load on the memory pool, not less.

The only "hope" here would be that M-architecture apps somehow use less memory, but that seems unlikely given the majority of memory usage is in data not code, or that the M1 is on-the-fly compressing memory used by data, which would be really cool and all but also would have made it into the tech specs.

Yeah, this event is certainly curious. Apple stated the macbook air allows you to use it without compromise on power, then they sling the same processor in the macbook pro and put a fan in it. Clearly the macbook air is not a ‘no compromise’ experience, otherwise it would have a fan too. Also somewhat dubious about the marketing that the air never gets warm. Without a fan, it has to either get hot, or defy the laws of thermodynamics.

As I understand it from Apple Patent #695,318,008 the M1 chip opens a "micro-wormhole" fully contained in the MacBook Air shell, and sends all excess heat energy to a location halfway between us and Alpha Centauri. I think that's only activated in the wedge-shaped shell of the MacBook Air as the temporal side effects might have a negative effect on FCP timelines.
 
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Random observation - looking at the Apple Store it’s apparent that the new 13” M1 Pro is intended to replace the lower end MacBook Pros with 8th generation Intel processors and two Thunderbolt 3 ports. They’re still selling the MacBook Pros with 10th generation Intel chips and four Thunderbolt 3 ports. Maybe they’re waiting for the M2 or M1X for this model?
If I had to guess, I'd say the M1 might have a limitation of support for 2 TB3 ports, since it went into replacements for all the Macs with 2 TB3/USB-C ports on them. That said, I don't recall Thunderbolt being listed as one of the duties of the SoC chip (CPU, GU, T2, Neural, Memory Controller; was there anything else?), so it might just be coincidental.
 
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