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I wonder if these 4" phones will have a 2 year upgrade cycle rather than yearly? Hard to believe there will be a new one in September, or even a year from now. Could see the next gen 4" one coming out with the 7S.
 
The new handset also features a 5-megapixel front-facing FaceTime camera with a True Tone Retina Flash feature that lights up the display of the iPhone significantly more than usual, just before a photo is captured.

Spec page says 1.2 megapixels...
 
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Tech leftovers? The fact it doesn't have worthless tech like 3D Touch is a selling point.

I wasn't talking about 3D Touch. I mean that after the 7 is announced the SE will start to be a gen behind. If they wanted a small phone with the latest features they'd just call it the 6 mini or something. Apple is really giving us the middle finger on this.
 
The front-facing camera info is incorrect here. It's actually the 1.2MP FaceTime HD camera. Also bummed about Touch ID 1.0.

Still very interested in the device, just weighing the tradeoffs from my 6s.

I didn't know it still had Touch ID 1.0. As we know, Touch ID on the 6S is really fast and accurate. I tested the 5S thru T-Mobile when they had that offer a couple of years back and I found it to be too inaccurate. I think because it has Touch ID I will not be "downgrading" to the SE.
 
Noticeable differences between the 6S Plus and SE according to Apple's comparison page:

  • No Dual-domain pixels for wide viewing angles for SE.
  • No LTE Advanced in SE.
  • No Display Zoom and Reachability for SE.
  • No MIMO w/ Wifi in the SE.
  • No second generation Touch ID speeds for the SE.
  • No Optical Image Stabilization in the SE Camera.
  • No OIS for Video.
  • No 5 MP front facing camera. Only 1.2 for the SE.
  • Auto HDR only for photos for front facing camera of SE.
  • No Barometer in SE.
PS I won't really compare the screen size or battery. I know the SE has a 640p display, which is pitiful for a 2016 phone at that size to me. Idk about the PPI being high at that screen size. I just would want at least a 720p display for a 4" screen if I were interesting the SE.

Source: http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/
 
No 128GB.

Same giant bezels.

Wish Apple would give us a flagship 4" iPhone. Hanging onto my iPhone 5 for another year. :(

This keynote...protruding camera on the iPad? Ridiculous. Starting with 15 minutes of research and health was worthy, but incredibly boring. Only Phil Schiller exuded any appreciable enthusiasm. The Apple Watch is obviously selling badly; no sales figures and a 20% price drop. The iPad has been increased in price by 20%; just what is needed in the face of 8 quarters of plummeting sales. Shares are down post-keynote.

I find the death of Apple painful to watch. All good things come to an end, I guess. I'm grateful to Steve Jobs and all who worked with him for his amazing products.
Thus comment is a little doom and gloom but your right in that it reflects a lacklustre show on stage tonight.
New iPhone is great but new presenters seemed almost bored to be on stage.
 
No, no 3D Touch and the FaceTime HD camera is still stuck at 1.2 Megapixels (compared to 5 in the 6S).

More gobsmacked at UK pricing; £359 for 16GB and £439 for 64GB.

Nah, mate, you misread that. Both cameras are identical to those in the 6s. The FaceTime camera is 5MP.

EDIT: I know it's confirmed that it's 1.2 MP
 
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In the keynote it seemed like they talked about it supporting more LTE bands or something, but when I compare iPhone models on Apple.com, it lists the iPhone SE as not supporting "LTE Advanced". Anybody know the details here?
 
I'm kinda bummed. I have the 6s which I like, but have always preferred the smaller 4" phones.

You don't think Apple would make a smaller 6S clone for $399? They had to cut some corners to make their phone seem like a 5S upgrade relative to the 6S.
 
Still starts with 16 gb.
....People need to quit bitching about this. We are in the minority. I'm willing to bet 60% of iPhone users are people who just use 3-5 apps and make phone calls, text, and answer e-mails. Unless you are loading music, movies, or taking tons of pictures most people don't need more then 16 GB.

I understand why you want more, and I personally have a 64 GB but they obviously are making money doing this and there are a large number of people buying them.
 
Notice there is no Touch ID 2 on this device. Still the first-gen slower Touch ID. This might be better to be honest :).

I really want one, I wish there was a 128gb option... What can I do with my 128gb iPhone 6s plus?
 
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Noticeable differences between the 6S Plus and SE according to Apple's comparison page:

  • No Dual-domain pixels for wide viewing angles for SE.
  • No LTE Advanced in SE.
  • No Display Zoom and Reachability for SE.
  • No MIMO w/ Wifi in the SE.
  • No second generation Touch ID speeds for the SE.
  • No Optical Image Stabilization in the SE Camera.
  • No OIS for Video.
  • No 5 MP front facing camera. Only 1.2 for the SE.
  • Auto HDR only for photos for front facing camera of SE.
  • No Barometer in SE.

Source: http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/

I compared as well....They could have put in the 5mp front camera for goodness sakes...even if they raised the price by 50 and included some of the above I would have paid for it.
 
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