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Apple Announces New Aluminum MacBooks
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So did I. I should have pointed out to them that Apple's adoption of it is the reason I started using IEEE 1394/FW 400 in the first place.
Since when do highschool students carry around laptops? Wouldn't the iMac work wonderfully then? It not only has the Firewire for you but it has a bigger screen which would be better for editing purposes right? Also, then they could carry their necessary school files on an external hard drive to your class and not worry about carrying a laptop around. And, its cheaper.
well still exemplary regardless
very good work I can tell you are a great teacher for this field for the students who wish to study Video/AV and Television Broadcast I am a college student entering the Graphic Design and Advertising field so I don't know if a firewire is necessary for me but Apple should have kept the option
Oh, I understand Apple's philosophy just fine. Adopt IEEE 1394 across the board in your product line. Develop and encourage software and peripherals that work seamlessly with it.
Drop the standard prematurely so people are forced to buy the upgraded products.
If they left in an alternative in the MB, no problem. But it's not available yet.
Sounds too much like planned obsolescence.
Folks,
All of you who are moaning about Firewire: if you haven't noticed there is a firewire over Ethernet protocol. which if apple decides to use the will only have to add something on the motherboard (i think) for all we know it could aready be in the laptops but apple may have not publicized it to differentiate the lines a bit. But if it's not included i don't see why Apple won't after this back lash add it on it's alot easier then changing the case design.
All of you who are moaning about Firewire: if you haven't noticed there is a firewire over Ethernet protocol. which if apple decides to use the will only have to add something on the motherboard (i think) for all we know it could aready be in the laptops but apple may have not publicized it to differentiate the lines a bit. But if it's not included i don't see why Apple won't after this back lash add it on it's alot easier then changing the case design.
My gosh you guys are acting like your notebooks have been Resurrected after this refresh, Hey! Apple actually made alot of people feel better about there old apple products! I don't think that has ever happened in these large numbers
not being sarcastic think about it, every year apple refreshes their product lines ( mainly ipods and laptop specs ) and leaves you feeling kinda left out with your old last year model, but this time Apple made you feel better about your older model! Whoa!Apparently Apple think you should.
Correction, they HAD those ports.
Hey I actually agree with you as far as number and type of ports that I would like but everyone here can vote with their dollar and see if Apple responds.
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Ah yes, the infamous FireWire S800T. Unfortunately it is more like vapourware for now. There are no devices that uses it. Will Apple be the first?
If Apple needs to add a chip to the motherboard, what happens to those that just bought one now? Recall?
Secondly, if it is just a firmware update, that is another $10 to Apple then? Sarbanes-Oxley pretty much makes sure that additional functionality cannot be given out for free. The same as enabling Wifi-N in earlier MacBooks.
Yours was the best stated of about a thousand posts concerning this issue. I especially liked/agree with the last few sentences.
Hi, I posted this on another thread but received no reply yet.
Hey, does anyone know when Best Buy will be getting the new MacBook?
I noticed that MacMall and MacConnection are already selling them along with the Apple Store of course but I need to buy mine at Best Buy because I have a Best Buy credit card. Does anyone have any idea? Tomorrow? The end of the week?
Hey, does anyone know when Best Buy will be getting the new MacBook?
I noticed that MacMall and MacConnection are already selling them along with the Apple Store of course but I need to buy mine at Best Buy because I have a Best Buy credit card. Does anyone have any idea? Tomorrow? The end of the week?
disk mode without firewire?>
have you seen the Aussie $ lately, at .7 you cant expect great prices
can one use disk mode without firewire?>
have you seen the Aussie $ lately, at .7 you cant expect great prices
can one use disk mode without firewire?>
It doesn't look possible to retroactively add FireWire to the new MacBook, considering that the whole bottom half is taken up by the battery. But even if it was, Apple would never do this. A FireWire port would be hailed as a "breakthrough feature" on the next MacBook revision. The only way such a port could be added is if some of the other ports were moved to the right side, and clearly Apple does not want to do this.I just realized if it may actually be possible for Apple to retrofit a FW jack into the side of the new Macbooks. Check this out.
Would it even be possible? YIKES!
FireWire is no longer going to be on future MacBook models. Like it or not, we must accept this. FireWire has long been taken out of the iPod, too, another consumer product.
The new MacBook is a drop-dead gorgerous machine! It's just so beautiful and refined!Yes, the lack of FireWire is a negative point, but I don't care! And I even have a FireWire-device hooked up to my MBP! I could easily live with USB-connection instead.
When I bought my MBP, I promised myself that I will wait for at least three years before I replace it. I have two more years to go. But I'm seriously lusting for a MacBook! What a beautiful machine!
Here's to hoping that Apple releases an aluminium-clad Netbook in the future. I might not replace my MBP for two more years, but I didn't say anything about not buying additional computers.
When I bought my MBP, I promised myself that I will wait for at least three years before I replace it. I have two more years to go. But I'm seriously lusting for a MacBook! What a beautiful machine!
Here's to hoping that Apple releases an aluminium-clad Netbook in the future. I might not replace my MBP for two more years, but I didn't say anything about not buying additional computers
.I do need firewire 400 on the road for my videocam. Also, I need a laptop with a small footprint, which is why I still use the Powerbook 12". I was hoping for Apple to put out a new model with the max. footprint of the 12" AND firewire. Target mode is a feature I use frequently, too.
So, with the new smaller models I would have to buy a new video camera, which I cannot justify to spend. The Pro's footprint is too large for me to take along. So I guess I will skip this generation.
Dirk
So, with the new smaller models I would have to buy a new video camera, which I cannot justify to spend. The Pro's footprint is too large for me to take along. So I guess I will skip this generation.
Dirk
UK being ripped off....again
I've been a mac user for about 8 years, and 6 months ago, switched back to Windows, due to the fact that higher spec'd Windows laptops can be bought for half the cost of Apple.
I'd read the various rumours on sites prior to yesterday's presentation, and was hopeful that a switch back to Apple would be viable, due to a sensible price drop and specification increase.
Post presentation, I'm very disappointed with the new range of laptops, and it seems to me that Apple are totally unaware of its competition and the economic climate.
Encouragingly, Apple announced a price drop on the white Macbook to $999, but I'm from England and this $999 price drop somehow translates into a cost of £719 ($1258 at todays exchange rate). This is actually £20 more expensive than the previous cheapest Macbook.
I think that the aluminium Macbook looks lovely, but at a price of £949 ($1660), its nowhere near well specified enough to justify buying.
Apple's presentation and new Macbook video are suggesting that we should all be excited about the all in one brick design and the new graphics chips. Personally, I don't care how its manufactured as long as its done responsibly. And at the current prices, having a new graphics chip is completely pointless. For the cheapest £719 white Macbook, you could buy a PS3, 26" LCD TV and a thin/light sub notebook with larger hard drive.
I like the fact that the Macbook is aluminium and has a glass trackpad, but I'm not prepared to pay £300 more than I did for my last Macbook.
Overall, the cost of the new Macbooks are going to restrict Apple's sales of them, in my opinion. I earn enough money to be able to buy one, and have historically been a fan of Apple's products, but I won't be buying one, unless a more realistic pricing structure is introduced.
I resent the feeling that I'm being ripped off.
I've been a mac user for about 8 years, and 6 months ago, switched back to Windows, due to the fact that higher spec'd Windows laptops can be bought for half the cost of Apple.
I'd read the various rumours on sites prior to yesterday's presentation, and was hopeful that a switch back to Apple would be viable, due to a sensible price drop and specification increase.
Post presentation, I'm very disappointed with the new range of laptops, and it seems to me that Apple are totally unaware of its competition and the economic climate.
Encouragingly, Apple announced a price drop on the white Macbook to $999, but I'm from England and this $999 price drop somehow translates into a cost of £719 ($1258 at todays exchange rate). This is actually £20 more expensive than the previous cheapest Macbook.
I think that the aluminium Macbook looks lovely, but at a price of £949 ($1660), its nowhere near well specified enough to justify buying.
Apple's presentation and new Macbook video are suggesting that we should all be excited about the all in one brick design and the new graphics chips. Personally, I don't care how its manufactured as long as its done responsibly. And at the current prices, having a new graphics chip is completely pointless. For the cheapest £719 white Macbook, you could buy a PS3, 26" LCD TV and a thin/light sub notebook with larger hard drive.
I like the fact that the Macbook is aluminium and has a glass trackpad, but I'm not prepared to pay £300 more than I did for my last Macbook.
Overall, the cost of the new Macbooks are going to restrict Apple's sales of them, in my opinion. I earn enough money to be able to buy one, and have historically been a fan of Apple's products, but I won't be buying one, unless a more realistic pricing structure is introduced.
I resent the feeling that I'm being ripped off.
the good: combo drive gone.. thank god was about time
the design ... i like it
finally real GPUs inside the macbooks
the US price drop
the bad:
no nonglare option
no firewire in the faster mac books while firewire in the cheap model .. so much for confusing lineup
price to high for at least 100 bucks across all countries
lowest macbook 1 GB of ram ? apple being cheapskates
and no bluray for the macbook pro ? why... i have no idea
no additional hdmi output ? in a macbook it's borderline "ok" to leave that out but on the macbookpro ? .. disgrace
the ugly: most confusing laptop lineup:
lowest macbook 667ddr2 with 2.1ghz and firewire then the macbooks with 2.0 no firewire but better graphics card and 1066ddr3 and then on top of that the 17" old style macpro with 800ddr2 etc. etc.
seriously crawling through specs seems to be the norm now with apple .. it gets seriously annoying
switching between 9400m and 9600 GT in the macbook pro meaning switching system preferences and log out re-login ? WTF .. you don't have to do that on the Sony laptops
adapter galore: is it just me or are those prices rising up and up over the time and with every new design you need more external stuff ?.. seriously stop it and put a normal sized display port/hdmi on the case already
and was there any word on HDCP compliance and better hardware acceleration for HD videos finally ?
the design ... i like it
finally real GPUs inside the macbooks
the US price drop
the bad:
no nonglare option
no firewire in the faster mac books while firewire in the cheap model .. so much for confusing lineup
price to high for at least 100 bucks across all countries
lowest macbook 1 GB of ram ? apple being cheapskates
and no bluray for the macbook pro ? why... i have no idea
no additional hdmi output ? in a macbook it's borderline "ok" to leave that out but on the macbookpro ? .. disgrace
the ugly: most confusing laptop lineup:
lowest macbook 667ddr2 with 2.1ghz and firewire then the macbooks with 2.0 no firewire but better graphics card and 1066ddr3 and then on top of that the 17" old style macpro with 800ddr2 etc. etc.
seriously crawling through specs seems to be the norm now with apple .. it gets seriously annoying
switching between 9400m and 9600 GT in the macbook pro meaning switching system preferences and log out re-login ? WTF .. you don't have to do that on the Sony laptops
adapter galore: is it just me or are those prices rising up and up over the time and with every new design you need more external stuff ?.. seriously stop it and put a normal sized display port/hdmi on the case already
and was there any word on HDCP compliance and better hardware acceleration for HD videos finally ?
A bit of a revolution...
What a conservative bunch we all are...
For Apple, green-causes and maybe for game'rs this is a move forward; for some of us it is un-compelling and for some the partial abandonment of what are fast becoming legacy technologies anyway [ieee1394/FW and miniDVI/miniVGA] offers a good enough reason to moan.
On the positives, usb has won the ipod-war, the hdd-war, the hobby-camcorder-war and even my g2/40gb ipod can sync using usb whilst charging from an external adapter, so I think I'll be able to get over that loss. And the move to an open standard for mini-video connectors has to be a "good thing", doesn't it?
The WTF over MB's reducing from an Intel/smoke-and-mirrors/over-clocking at 2.1/667 to a native 2.0/1066, a significant bump in L2 cache and a doubling of RAM capacity is probably misplaced; it will in all probability be a significant improvement ITRW; although it way well take the whole 4gbRAM to get the best out of the new graphics chip in the MB.
And that makes Apple's decision to reduce materially the price of BTO/full-warranty RAM, helpful.
Personally there's absolutely nothing here to make my trusty blackBook worry [or my kids expectant of another freebie coming their way] and nothing in the MBA that means I'll stop lugging a MacMini when I need something more for client presentations.
Nice one Jonathan; but no cigar!
What a conservative bunch we all are...
For Apple, green-causes and maybe for game'rs this is a move forward; for some of us it is un-compelling and for some the partial abandonment of what are fast becoming legacy technologies anyway [ieee1394/FW and miniDVI/miniVGA] offers a good enough reason to moan.
On the positives, usb has won the ipod-war, the hdd-war, the hobby-camcorder-war and even my g2/40gb ipod can sync using usb whilst charging from an external adapter, so I think I'll be able to get over that loss. And the move to an open standard for mini-video connectors has to be a "good thing", doesn't it?
The WTF over MB's reducing from an Intel/smoke-and-mirrors/over-clocking at 2.1/667 to a native 2.0/1066, a significant bump in L2 cache and a doubling of RAM capacity is probably misplaced; it will in all probability be a significant improvement ITRW; although it way well take the whole 4gbRAM to get the best out of the new graphics chip in the MB.
And that makes Apple's decision to reduce materially the price of BTO/full-warranty RAM, helpful.
Personally there's absolutely nothing here to make my trusty blackBook worry [or my kids expectant of another freebie coming their way] and nothing in the MBA that means I'll stop lugging a MacMini when I need something more for client presentations.
Nice one Jonathan; but no cigar!
Come on, you can these adapters for a fraction of that.
I have seen 9 to 6 pin cables for around $5 shipped.
No doubt the demand should be increasing now.
I think that will translate into lower prices and/or better availability.
Shouldn't come as a surprise at all. Blame the British Pound.
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Care to do an analysis for Firewire audio interfaces?
Those who have needs for such interfaces (usually pro's) can get the MBP.
I disagree. Most amateur dv-tape based videocamera require FW to transfer DV-footage. Besides, I own severyl (non-pro) periphreals which require firewire. Apart from that, it is also a question of size. For my use of the laptop (currently a PB 12", last edition), anything much larger is simply too large. I was hoping for Apple to reintroduce a smaller Pro model, such as the old 12" was....