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Torajima said:
3. And just to reiterate, the macbook Pro does NOT include a firewire 400 port. Even if you buy a macbook pro, you can NOT use your camcorder or audio interface without buying a third party adapter.
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You can buy a cable that is 400 on one end and 800 on the other. Cheap.
 
makeyourfaith said:
EditGuy, if you would spend 12+ hours per day editing ANYthing on a laptop, you would come to the realization that a glossy screen is incredibly annoying. And you are getting annoying too... There is a reason why 'pros' require a matte screen. Get pro, and you'll know. :cool:
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What in the world are you talking about? Have you read any of my posts? Nowhere did I advocate a glossy screen. And I have spent many 12-15 hour days editing. My students and I have won 9 emmy awards. How many have you?
 
Goliath said:
The loss of firewire may upset a few college students doing audio/video editing courses and a few pros that prefer the smaller form factor/price of the new MacBook, but the MacBook has always been a consumer orientated device. And for much the same reasoning Apple abandoned firewire connectivity from iPods they are doing the same with the MacBook.

As much as you would like to believe these laptops are geared towards students doing video/audio editing, Apple is chasing a much more lucrative and larger demographic- late 20-early 30's, in well paid jobs, that have higher disposable incomes.

And these people aren't buying miniDV camcorders- they're buying Flip and hard drive/flash camcorders that almost exclusively use USB2.

Does it suck? Yes. But history has showed that the better format/interface doesn't always win. The majority of computer users couldn't tell you what lead connects their equipment to their computer. They will tell you, if asked, the one that came with it in the box.
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This basically sums up why they removed firewire from the macbook and ipods. Firewire 400 is typically easier to find on drive casings, but Firewire 800 comes at a decent price increase.
 
bonehead said:
You can buy a cable that is 400 on one end and 800 on the other. Cheap.
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So, after spending an extra $700 just to get a $10 port, should I really have to spend an additional $20 just to connect my camcorder?

The Macbook should have one firewire port.
The Macbook Pro should have one firewire 400, one firewire 800, and one ExpressCard.
That differentiates the lines plenty.
 
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philamac said:
I can't tell, but do the apple logos on the back light up anymore?
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the day apples logo doesnt light up on the back of an apple laptop is the day 1 Infinate Loop in Cupertino closes its doors and goes out of business my friend.
 
tongteh said:
i know that the gloss part is a big let down to many of us(including myself).. but the firewire section is just irrelevant? USB3.0 is coming out by next year?? do some google search about "usb3.0"?

"A Super-Speed (USB 3.0) rate of 4.8 Gbit/s (600 MB/s). The USB 3.0 specification was released by Intel and its partners in August 2008, according to early reports from CNET news. According to Intel, bus speeds will be 10 times faster than USB 2.0 due to the inclusion of a fibre-optic link that works with traditional copper connectors. Products using the 3.0 specification are likely to arrive in 2009 or 2010."

I am not so worry about Firewire in comparison to usb 3.0!?!? what if the next update have an usb3.0 port in it?

like some have said, the entry price point here in Australia is just BAD! $2099!! and $2549?!?! the worst part of them all, is that you can't even get educational discount for macbook anymore! after clicking educational discounts, the price remain the same?
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NT1440 said:
Doesnt FW 3200 spank usb 3??:confused:
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Here’s the twist: USB 3.0 promises a data transfer rate of 4.8 Gbps, where FireWire 3200 promises to deliver 3.2 Gbps. so??
 
editguy said:
What in the world are you talking about? Have you read any of my posts? Nowhere did I advocate a glossy screen. And I have spent many 12-15 hour days editing. My students and I have won 9 emmy awards. How many have you?
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WOW :eek: That's Awesome! Congrats !

Care to share what these Emmy's were for specifically? :) please
 
I love new Macbook.

Firewire? I don't care, never used it.
Price? $1299 - i think ideal price for this notebook - precise manufactoring, faster RAM, faster graphic card, LED-backlight display, pretty nice design, glass trackpad, great keyboard.

And it's a Mac!
 
miamialley said:
It may be time for Arn to create a thread "Firewire complaints here" so you guys can just let it all out.
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I haven't read all the post, but my friends were going to upgrade their old iBooks and PowerBooks, but the only problem is that they are musicians and have Firewire based audio boxes. I guess they can still get the cheaper MacBook...

Why did Apple still include the Ethernet Port? I don't even know anyone with an Apple Notebook that actually uses it - everyone I know uses wireless....

Should've kept the one most people use instead - the FireWire...
 
gkarris said:
I haven't read all the post, but my friends were going to upgrade their old iBooks and PowerBooks, but the only problem is that they are musicians and have Firewire based audio boxes. I guess they can still get the cheaper MacBook...

Why did Apple still include the Ethernet Port? I don't even know anyone with an Apple Notebook that actually uses it - everyone I know uses wireless....

Should've kept the one most people use instead - the FireWire...
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id wager theres alot more people using ethernet than FW (note they dont serve the same purpose im not advocating one or the other, they should probably both be there)
 
kabunaru said:
I actually like the new MacBook (more than the new MacBook Pro) but FireWire is going to be the only nit-pick from me but I can still live without that. Does anyone here actually likes the new MacBook?
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I really like the new MacBook and the lack of FireWire means little to me. That's right, there are people like us out there.
 
gkarris said:
I haven't read all the post, but my friends were going to upgrade their old iBooks and PowerBooks, but the only problem is that they are musicians and have Firewire based audio boxes. I guess they can still get the cheaper MacBook...

Why did Apple still include the Ethernet Port? I don't even know anyone with an Apple Notebook that actually uses it - everyone I know uses wireless....

Should've kept the one most people use instead - the FireWire...
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I was thinking the same thing. I don't think I've ever used my Ethernet port.
 
prin0 said:
having to consider firewire devices as stranded costs easily motivated registration to submit this comment. :eek:

any pointers to a related petition website yet? :mad:
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Is anyone doing this, the petiton I mean? And one for matte screens?

Don't know how serious apple would take it, but trying won’t hurt... :rolleyes:

I would do it, but I'm a non-native speaker, and I'd rather the letter had no spelling or grammar errors.

However, have to sleep now, g’nite all,

Jojo
 
Call me sad....

Call me sad, but I decided to do a quick bit of analysis on BestBuy's website to see the state of FireWire on today's camcorders. The results were not pretty...

Bestbuy has five categories for camcorder: DVD, MiniDV, Hard drive, High Definition, and Flash. Some of these categories overlap and below I have made no allowances for this fact.

DVD
11 units listed. 9 had USB connections and amazingly 2 had no connectivity at all (must rely on the DVD). None of these had firewire.

MiniDV
9 Units listed. All but one of them had FireWire (8). One unit had FW and USB and one had USB only.

Hard Drive
22 Units listed. All cameras had USB and five included FW as well.

High Definition
32 Units listed. All but a $4000 pro camera had USB. The pro only had FW. 5 other cameras had both FW and USB.

Flash
51 Units listed. At this point I gave up. It was looking pretty dismal for FW and I figured that all Flash based cameras will be USB given the state of the market.

So totaling up, I have a 124 units (some of which are duplicated across the lists) but of that 124, 93% has USB connectivity versus only 15% with a FW option.

I still think it is incredibly bad of Apply to leave off a FW400 port from the Macbook because I am sure that there are still a lot of FW base older camcorders in peoples hands, but when you look at the current crop of camcorders available for sale today, it is apparent that FW has become increasingly irrelevant in the camcorder market.

I believe it is too soon for FW to be dropped. Yes the writing is on the wall, but I think apple should have waited another generation (or two) at least.
 
"Frankly, it sends a shiver up my spine." - Tim Cook


Wow. My vary thought right when I saw XP on that iMac....about had to grab the ol' barf bag.
 
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