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Amid the vitriolic rhetoric, innocent question: what physical connector do [most] 4K displays use? any chance Apple could enable hidden 4K support thru software when iTunes Store is ready?

No, they can't because the new Apple TV is only HDMI 1.4. For 4k, you need HDMI 2.0.
 
Basically apple have been two years behind the competition and have only just caught up. Only there are better devices already on the market ( Nvidia shield) , similar devices in the nexus player, Amazon etc

And I'm willing to bet the completion will start releasing 4k Support far quicker than apple.
 
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For features, though, what I want when watching a movie, besides the "what did he say?" feature which is great..

That is an incredibly practical feature and is almost enough to make me upgrade. I've had that happen a lot when watching cable and forgetting you can't rewind. -__-
 
No optical out. Bummer.

I wanted to use this with my 27" display, as I don't have a TV. But I'm not going to get a dedicated TV, just to connect an Apple TV to it.

Does anybody know any device that will split HDMI input into picture (HDMI output to display) and sound? Sound output can be anything: optical, analog cinch, I don't care, as long as it's stereo.
I'm disappointed about this too. I have 2 apple TVs one in living room hDMI'd to TV and optically connected to stereo and one connected via AV amp to a projector by HDMI and optical. In the living room you can airplay music to stereo without telly on and my AV amp only supports video over HDMI.
 
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23mm vs. 33mm (just doing a little math check here)...

143% bigger then. So why is it BIGGER? when the iPhone 6 is THINNER?
 

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There is plenty of content. Proper upscaling of 1080p should also be noted. Many people have 4k tv's. We are on a minorty-type website. We want boundaries pushed and tech to be bleeding edge. I come here because I remember what Apple used to be.

Also, just because you don't have a need for 4k doesn't mean many here don't.

H.265 is what Netflix and everyone else is using. Beautiful quality at almost the same bit rate and file size as H.264.

I wish Apple fans would learn about new tech...

The Nvidia Shield TV (console) is the same price but with about 10 times as much graphic and cpu power. It's a legitimate gaming console that has smooth 4k and tons of RAM. I mention RAM because no matter what Apple apologists say, 1GB is a joke and will never run anything smoothly. Also, the shield has an SD slot to expand storage and USB, amongst tons of other things.

A part of me wants Xiaomi and other Chinese companies to push Apple back to innovation. No, Xiaomi isn't there yet, sadly.

Apple tv has 2 GB of RAM
 
I've just watched the ATV video on their website and there is an orange icon at 9 seconds into the video that has a picture of a computer screen on it with a play button.... I wonder if this is the new "computers" icon?
 
I wish there were some easy way to watch "live" tv for channels such as NBC/CBS/ABC/FOX. They might be able to come out with individual apps to do this, but I wish there was the option to watch TV in the more "traditional" sense flipping through live channels.

To everyone complaining about 4k. 1) Do you have a 4k TV? 2) What 4k content do you currently watch?
 
Wondering how much memory you'll really need if you just want to use it mostly as a TV and not a gaming machine. 32GB seems like a lot when you stream pretty much everything these days, music, photos, iTunes, Netflix, etc. Maybe the 64GB is for loading all those 3D games on to it.
 
Just checked the Apple site and there is a whole section about being able to stream your own content. It doesn't say how (Home Sharing vs. Airplay) but I am offically less concerned than I was earlier about being able to watch my own content as I have been able to on all previous AppleTV's.

http://www.apple.com/tv/music-and-photos/

Phew!


According to that, you can watch your "home movies". So I'm worried that they're cutting us off from our movies and tv shows on our machines. That's what I mainly use Apple TV for.

Scott
 
I think they did say iTunes is searchable. The question is: will iTunes even recognize your ripped video content?


I am thinking a third party app that you will use to play your ripped movies (or all movies) from your NAS or Mac will use the meta dat you plugged from IMDB as teh search table. Someone posted a link to a company already working on a ATV movie streaming type app.

Think about it...the App store really opens this thing up.
 
I've just watched the ATV video on their website and there is an orange icon at 9 seconds into the video that has a picture of a computer screen on it with a play button.... I wonder if this is the new "computers" icon?

Yes i saw that too, I would assume that is what it is. It does make sense to have a compute Icon instead of a stupid house
 
Insanely huge disappointment for me, really wanted to get an updated interface with new hardware. All we really got was some updated hardware with a minor facelift to the interface. I don't care about the remote or siri, there's an app on the phone that can do all that stuff anyway and control Apple TV. Play games? Nah that's why I have a console like xbox to play on. Most app based games are still years away from prime time competition with xbox/playstation.
 
I guess I'm the only one here without a 4K TV and mountains of 4K content to watch?

4K TVs will only drop in price and the content (which appears to be sparse at the moment) will only increase in time. Plus, we have Apple's new streaming platform to look forward to; they're not nearly finished with the Apple TV. An entire app store and developer support isn't a "minor update." Every other device with an app store is updated on a regular basis, so don't think you have to wait 3 years for the next Apple TV. This isn't Apple's hobby project anymore, so expect to see a refresh more often.
 
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It currently has no 4K support, but I would be pleasantly surprised if that changed somewhere down the road with a downloadable update. I've seen several HDMI 1.4 devices (which supports 4K, but only at up to 30 FPS) that are capable of firmware upgrades to HDMI 2.0. I would imagine the driving factor behind a lack of 4K support out of the gate is that iTunes content is not 4K and they don't want to let competitors on the App Store get the jump on them when vying for consumer dollars.

I mean crikey, we know the A8 has hardware encoding/decoding for h.265 and yet it's not even listed as a video format on the Apple TV spec page.
I'm pretty sure it was ONLY Sony who said they could update their 1.4 to 2.0 by internet download. And that was like 2 years ago now... They already replaced their entire line with 2.0. I don't even know if they actually did provide that update, they just mentioned they probably could.

It's also super un-Apple like to do something like that. No 4K on iPhone 6, only new 6 S's. Just remember that.
 
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I like the new AppleTV and will buy one as soon as available. Once I have played with it will probably upgrade the second one as well. The controller was the only thing that I am not 100% convinced on. I see that they will allow other controllers so I am sure some third party one may end being a better option. one thing I would love is the audio out jack like in the roku controllers. Would love to watch a movie while my wife sleeps or the other way around.
 
I at least thought it would have an hdmi input and output (similar to sony's google tv NSZ-GT1) and do a video overlay on top of the cable box, so you can at least get to live TV without changing its input.
 
What's the chances of Kodi/XBMC making its way to the ATV App Store? I'll buy one if those kind of apps are permitted.

Well Firecore's Infuse has been officially confirmed and so has Plex so i think it's a given that Kodi will follow.
Happy days :)
 
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