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Apple Announces New Apple TV With Siri, App Store, New User Interface and Remote

No 4K on the new ATV? DOA. A lame excuse that you can't tell the difference between 4K and 1080p blu ray. Yea, that's the point. 4K now gives us blu ray quality streaming. The current 1080p streaming does not come close to blu ray quality. That's why you want 4K streaming. To give us blu ray quality. Just like they told us we didn't need LTE on our phones when other companies were producing LTE phones.
 
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Pez555 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question....

Is there some sort of subscription service if the content is only available on iTunes? Or do you pay per episode/movie that you watch that is only available on iTunes?
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Apple Music is on subscription, but everything else is pay as you go.
 
Otago Lad said:
Will Siri search your local content i.e. I've got over 1,000 movies ripped from did and bluray and properly tagged and stored on a sever and added to my local iTunes - so will Siri search these as well as online iTunes content?
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I think they did say iTunes is searchable. The question is: will iTunes even recognize your ripped video content?
 
I also saw no mention of some of the core Apple apps such as Safari, iMessage, Mail, Calendar, Maps and FaceTime. Heck... I would love to see incoming calls flash on the TV to show me WHO is calling. Then maybe I could send it to voicemail from there. So much opportunity... so little effort. What a waste.
 
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So, I'm a bit perplexed about Apple's 4K strategy (or the lack of).
- 5K iMac
- 5K MacPro (or 6x4K MacPro)
- 4K MacBookPro
- 4K Video Shooting on the iPhone
- but no 4K replay on the late 2015 Apple TV

4K would probably brought some rather ugly memory-constraints, resulting in either an even more expensive product or severely limited storage-space.
So they decided to leave it out.

The upshot is that I can still buy one for my parents, who don't have a 4K TV (and probably never will).
Or get an old one for cheap, as displaying photos from the iPad is most likely all they'll ever do on it...

Personally, I don't have a TV at all, so I've got even less use for it than the Watch ;-)
 
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Amid the vitriolic rhetoric, innocent question: what physical connector do [most] 4K displays use? any chance Apple could enable hidden 4K support thru software when iTunes Store is ready?
 
SloanNYC said:
I think there is so little 4k material out there right now it doesn't make sense to increase cost to enable that. Better to wait and then release gen 2 when it is needed and more 4k TVs are out there.
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I cant for the life of me understand why folks don't get this. 4k is tiny...very tiny part of the market...true 4k will come and it will surely be everywhere including ATV.

Right now you have mostly "faux-k" (pixel splitting) TVs in homes and very little 4k content. With all teh 4k whining I read I wonder how many of those folks have true 4k TVs and somehow find lots of real 4k content...
 
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JRobinsonJr said:
I also saw no mention of some of the core Apple apps such as Safari, iMessage, Mail, Calendar, Maps and FaceTime. Heck... I would love to see incoming calls flash on the TV to show me WHO is calling. Then maybe I could send it to voicemail from there. So much opportunity... so little effort. What a waste.
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I agree. They didn't even mention HomeKit once.
 
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Never been interested in the Apple TV, but now I'll buy one for the apps. More excited for this than the new iPhones.
 
Just checked the Apple site and there is a whole section about being able to stream your own content. It doesn't say how (Home Sharing vs. Airplay) but I am offically less concerned than I was earlier about being able to watch my own content as I have been able to on all previous AppleTV's.

http://www.apple.com/tv/music-and-photos/

Phew!
 
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patseguin said:
Apple TV S will have 4k. ;-)

Seriously though, there is no content that I am aware of that is 4K not to mention only a small percentage of users will even have a 4K TV. Add to that the enormous bandwidth needed to stream it and it's no wonder it doesn't have it.
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There is plenty of content. Proper upscaling of 1080p should also be noted. Many people have 4k tv's. We are on a minorty-type website. We want boundaries pushed and tech to be bleeding edge. I come here because I remember what Apple used to be.

Also, just because you don't have a need for 4k doesn't mean many here don't.

H.265 is what Netflix and everyone else is using. Beautiful quality at almost the same bit rate and file size as H.264.

I wish Apple fans would learn about new tech...

The Nvidia Shield TV (console) is the same price but with about 10 times as much graphic and cpu power. It's a legitimate gaming console that has smooth 4k and tons of RAM. I mention RAM because no matter what Apple apologists say, 1GB is a joke and will never run anything smoothly. Also, the shield has an SD slot to expand storage and USB, amongst tons of other things.

A part of me wants Xiaomi and other Chinese companies to push Apple back to innovation. No, Xiaomi isn't there yet, sadly.
 
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Let's see i like the smart function of Siri integration, the navigation features and UI. I like the remote and the App Store addition. Don't care nothing about gaming. I couldn't care less for 4k as I don't have a 4k set and in absolute no rush to get one, I'm more than happy with my current awesome picture. I'll happily take and enjoy the 32g one version thank you while the rest of sit around here complaining about what it doesn't have.
 
Apologies if someone has already posted this as I haven't read through the entire thread.

I see the new Apple TV doesn't have optical out. That's a backward step for me. Can't work out why they'd drop that. How am I supposed to hook it up to my surround sound system?

That and the lack of 4K output is very disappointing.
 
ctdonath said:
Amid the vitriolic rhetoric, innocent question: what physical connector do [most] 4K displays use? any chance Apple could enable hidden 4K support thru software when iTunes Store is ready?
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Nah you need HDMI 2.0 for 4K support. You can't update this "new" (hard cough) box to do 4K...
 
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Traverse said:
It seems really nice, but it turns your TV into a computer. I can't wait for my TV to lag after one or two updates. Also, Siri never works that well in real life.

However, if it does work like they're showing it, it will be incredible. I hope it's a success.
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At launch, Siri was dreadfully slow. These days, though, while the response will take a second, the dictation is maybe a quarter second behind my voice. I do wonder how well she will do with lesser-known actors' names, or casual mispronunciations of those names, which seems to be the most likely source of frustration.

For features, though, what I want when watching a movie, besides the "what did he say?" feature which is great, is a "who is that?" where it would point out the characters and actors on screen at the moment, rather than the more static/useless "who stars in this movie?" query she actually handles. Someone, somewhere must be working on the back end to support queries where given a timecode and a movie identifier it can spit out character+actor links for each character onscreen, ideally with x/y coordinates of that actor on the screen ...
 
I think Apple missed an opportunity here by not creating a game control pad.

Does anyone know will Plex be an App that is usable with Apple TV?
 
killr_b said:
So, no 4k.... why update the hardware just to update the interface? HDMI 1.4? Why did they even bother?
That's a serious question- what is the point of this update?
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It currently has no 4K support, but I would be pleasantly surprised if that changed somewhere down the road with a downloadable update. I've seen several HDMI 1.4 devices (which supports 4K, but only at up to 30 FPS) that are capable of firmware upgrades to HDMI 2.0. I would imagine the driving factor behind a lack of 4K support out of the gate is that iTunes content is not 4K and they don't want to let competitors on the App Store get the jump on them when vying for consumer dollars.

I mean crikey, we know the A8 has hardware encoding/decoding for h.265 and yet it's not even listed as a video format on the Apple TV spec page.
 
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