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i have been listening to a great deal of whining for years and years. all the while buying and using mac's since 1991, always appreciating the superior product apple puts out. it is time for all you ingrates to either go buy a dell or hp, and suffer the consequences, or shut up and enjoy what you have; or, wait for the right product to come out of the apple think tank. i for one am always satisfied...

Excuse me while I raid your wallet and you thank me for it.
 
Well back in November I predicted price rises, but the cheapest Mac mini is £500 and that's without a keyboard, mouse and 2 GBs of RAM. What on earth is Apple thinking?

Back in November a 2.0GHz Mac mini with 2GB of RAM, a 120GB hard disk and a SuperDrive would have cost you £537.

A new Mac mini with the same basic spec is £539 today, but has a faster CPU and faster graphics. So it could be worse.
 
I have a couple of questions:

When I configure the 2.93 imac to be same (3ghz + 1tb + remote + iworks + 4850) as the 3ghz one, it comes out to be a little bit cheaper. Why?

How come when I do it through Educational Discount page, I don't get the Apple Care option?

Does anyone have any benchmarks for the GT 130 Geforce?

Is the 4850 same as the desktop PCI-E as on PC's, or is it a mobile version?


I asked the same questions earlier - except when I configure the 2.93 it comes out as £20 more!

I'm guessing the 4850 must be a mobile version (heat issues).
 
In the UK the price point for the iMac I'm looking at is now around £200 more than it was. I was going for a 3.06Ghz 24" iMac with 4Gbs RAM and the GeForce 800, but to get the same now I have to pay £200 more. In addition I notice that they sneakily dropped the remote control as a standard item, that has to be ordered separately.

The Mac Pros have gone up big time and again Apple have been sneaky by making the base model (still more expensive than the original) only have 4 cores instead of the original where you got eight for a cheaper price.

I had saved up around £2700 for the transition, but looking at the marketeering they have done (and it is marketeering in the iMacs case, not a worthwhile upgrade), I think I will just update my PC and keep the change.

Can't say I'm happy with what they done. Maybe it's just a Uk thing to be ripped off?

RobP
 
Recession Apple, recession!

I hope they aren't so ignorant that they always expect their products will sell even when people have no money to spend. Prices usually go down when there is a recession. The opposite is happening.
 
i have been listening to a great deal of whining for years and years. all the while buying and using mac's since 1991, always appreciating the superior product apple puts out. it is time for all you ingrates to either go buy a dell or hp, and suffer the consequences, or shut up and enjoy what you have; or, wait for the right product to come out of the apple think tank. i for one am always satisfied...

A majority of these "whiners" where people who had their money ready to buy on release day. To see the price hike up above what they have set aside is a valid reason for them to voice their opinions.

Luckily i can just about afford the new 20" imac thanks to student discount.
 
I've been needing a new computer for a LONG time. That is my choice. it has been ordered.. That is a fantastic deal.

24 inch: $1,199.

My only question to others is -- it looks like it will come with iLife 08. Is there a way to upgrade to 09 for like $10? i thought I remember something like that with models that don't come with 09 installed.

Have you ordered it with the full size keyboard (including separate up/down, DEL and numeric keys)?

Standard is now the Apple cost-saving small keyboard.
 
Profit margins on old Core 2 Duos are larger than Core 2 Quads.

Not quite. In fact Apple was using overclocked mobile processors, which are theoretically far more expensive than the desktop quads Apple was supposedly waiting for.

Eidorian said:
Time to take bets that it's a Mobility Radeon HD4870?

Wouldn't surprise me.

bobthedino said:
Back in November a 2.0GHz Mac mini with 2GB of RAM, a 120GB hard disk and a SuperDrive would have cost you £537.

A new Mac mini with the same basic spec is £539 today, but has a faster CPU and faster graphics. So it could be worse.

That's a fair point. But if we've only ended up with something slightly faster compared to the previous generation (which was almost 2 years old) for virtually the same price, it might as well have not been updated. Also my main point was that the cheapest, lowest-end Mac became significantly more expensive (over £100 increase or almost 30%).
 
In the UK the price point for the iMac I'm looking at is now around £200 more than it was. I was going for a 3.06Ghz 24" iMac with 4Gbs RAM and the GeForce 800, but to get the same now I have to pay £200 more. In addition I notice that they sneakily dropped the remote control as a standard item, that has to be ordered separately.

The Mac Pros have gone up big time and again Apple have been sneaky by making the base model (still more expensive than the original) only have 4 cores instead of the original where you got eight for a cheaper price.

I had saved up around £2700 for the transition, but looking at the marketeering they have done (and it is marketeering in the iMacs case, not a worthwhile upgrade), I think I will just update my PC and keep the change.

Can't say I'm happy with what they done. Maybe it's just a Uk thing to be ripped off?

RobP
The exchange rates are rubbish at the moment. Prices for electronics having been going up in the UK for the last few months.

At work we used to be able to source a HP PC with Windows XP Pro for £220. Now we pay almost £300 for the same machine, but it now has less RAM.
 
I'm bitterly disapppointed. A long time pc user, I had decided to move over to the iMac, going for 24", 3.06GHz with 4GB Ram, 1GB HDD, wireless Mighty Mouse, APP for around £1700. Planning to buy last week, procrastination and then rumours of an upgrade made me hold off. Now, I see the same model (virtually) with wireless mighty mouse and APP is now £1950. How can they justify this?

Is there any way I can still buy the model that was available prior to this 'upgrade' ?

I think I may stick with my pc and just upgrade my monitor :(

Get a refurb or find a reseller.
 
It's not the pricing, it's the technology...

Apple is a for-profit company. They will try to maximize profit.

So, what bothers me the most is not the pricing, it's the technology. Why not offer the higher specs to the people who will pay for it. Why leave the people at the top who will pay more hanging?

No quad-core
No Blu-ray
No LED
No 10,000RPM+ HDD/SSD
No 1GB Memory Graphics
No 1.5TB+ HDD

and don't say Mac Pro, because Mac Pro is clunky and even it doesn't offer Blu-ray. Why not offer a sleek all-in-one package like the iMac that can be maxed out? It's just a matter of using different components and raising the sticker price.
 
Just when so many were switching, Apple has taken defeat from the jaws of success.

If they wanted to take a large proportion of the (home) desktop market share they could. Slashing prices and increasing sales to maintain profit is an option they'll always have, it's just they'll lose the (undeserved?) premium/niche image.
 
Waited for nothing...

What a bummer.

With a combination of one firewire port and a graphics card that doesn't support Final Cut Pro, I wound up buying a discontinued model (for a big discount though.)

The 2.66 models of 20" and 24" iMacs won't support FCP graphically and I don't $1800 for the next one. Sheesh.
 
All the new updates are fantastic, really liking the stuff!

Going to purchase the new keyboard, can't decide between the iMac and a MacBook Pro. I've never even heard of the GeForce 130, I'll have to go check that out.
 
I am going to order a new mini asap. Nice specs and coupled with an Elgato tuner stick, its goodbye time for the Windows Media Center PC.
 
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