To some it’s the size and to most it was the price of being the cheapest one by far. Assuming all bought it for the size is really just that, assumption.
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Apple Announces New iPhone SE With 4.7-Inch Display, A13 Chip, and Touch ID, Starts at $399
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To some it’s the size and to most it was the price of being the cheapest one by far. Assuming all bought it for the size is really just that, assumption.
I have to say just from my anecdotal experience of the original SE, every single person I know who bought it had it for the size. In developing countries it was immensely popular as it was a cheap iPhone so those two reasons alone made it a success depending on the part of the world I would say.
I bought my original SE for the size / form factor, as well as the price.
It’s surely one of these reasons. We have plenty devices in the family and all SE units were purchased based on the low entry price. However I don’t go around and post a blanko statement like some that ALL customers got the old one for the size or assume that everyone is like me when it comes to shopping.
It’s clearly an entry level phone to rid the production chain of tons of old spare parts, and that’s not a bad idea at all as both generations seem to find plenty of buyers.
That’s fair enough. The 4” size was a massive reason for its previous success along with its lower price point and it’ll be interesting to see if it’s as popular this tome around.
I think you're underestimating the number of people who enjoy the benefits of the "Apple Ecosystem" but don't use the phone for gaming, or even as they primary method of computing.
I'm still using a 7, my wife a 6S+.
For her a better camera would be the most welcome upgrade. For me it's a toss-up between fixing the 7, which means (a) having to take it in somewhere during the apocalypse, and (b) spending money to fix a 4-year old phone.
I guess we might take advantage of the eSIM option when travelling overseas (not any time soon!), but roaming data from our regular provider is hardly expensive anyway.
It's not so much "we can't afford this phone" it's more, do I get any additional value from a phone that's essentially 2x or 3x the price?
I’d say I am one of those people and have been very vocal about Apples high pricing since 2017. I’m happy with a mid tier iPhone.
Right - so all I'm saying is, it isn't just the developing world where price plays a part. Just because a person can afford something more expensive, doesn't mean they get additional value/benefit from it, compared to a cheaper alternative.
Let’s be fair. S/he wants an iPhone with updated specs, a 7 or 8 isn’t it. I won’t begrudge anyone any disappointment at there not being a plus size, since it’s based on a phone that did have one.
Anybody who thinks a $400 iphone that’s more powerful than any android flagship will sell badly is fooling themselves.
Apart from tech nerds, I think nobody cares about the specs
This will sell very well because of the price, period.
If Apple would have put an A12 but the price at 300$ it would have sold even more
I wasn’t saying it was just the developing world either. It’s clear price plays a global part otherwise the 11 Pro range would be the best selling iPhones. I’d never spend £1049+ on a phone as you simply don’t need to.
Too bad it’s not named the 8s.
then there would have been room for an iPhone 9. And 9s.
lol
Apple still shows no sign of being anything than a rudderless ship with a failing engine.
I have an original SE that just turned 4 years. Still going strong, a part the battery life.
I ordered a new iPhone SE yesterday because what I needed is more battery life, better performance and a maybe a better camera. Also, I lack space so I moved from 64gb to 128gb.
The SE 2020 does well all of the above, so why spend more?
For info, for work I have an 11 pro max so I know well the last generation of iphones. amazing device, I love it, but I dont really need that level for my personal phone.
I’m probably misunderstanding The Innovator’s Dilemma, but when a new technology supplants an old one, it comes from below. It isn’t as good as the mature product in all ways, but offers a specific value proposition in a particular way. Soon it becomes “good enough” such that most buyers are willing to overlook flaws to get whatever that certain value is. Eventually those flaws are corrected (most are corrected very quickly) and inevitably the previous technology is completely supplanted.
Apple and the other tech giants are all well aware of this, they’ve all read The Innovator’s Dilemma, so they try to be their own disruptors. If wireless headphones are the thing that’s going to uproot you, then you uproot yourself, hoping to remain on top of the market.
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That people bought it for that reason can be true (heck, that’s why I bought it, too) but it appears that that is not its actual reason for being. It exists to use an existing set of parts and machine tools to offer a budget phone by way of limiting costs. It so happened that with the first SE, that existing set of parts happened to be the 5S, and it so happens that that was the last one of that size.
Similarly this is probably going to be the last one of this form factor (6/6S/7/8), and it might be the last with Touch ID. Perhaps in four years Apple comes out with another SE that is essentially the last gasp of the X or 11, and people who bought this SE because it had Touch ID will be disappointed that the next one doesn’t have it.
That doesn’t make purchasing the 2016 SE because of size misguided or ill informed, everyone’s got their own reason. But it clearly now isn’t the reason it was made at that size.
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Early indicators signal you're wrong as are most people who bet against Apple.
Don't worry about that because Apple will likely discontinue it regardless if the sales are bad or good.
I am expecting the SE to do well. It's a budget phone that packs quite a bit of a punch. The competition got so good that Google brought a stellar camera onto its Pixel 3a and Apple brought a flagship processor into the SE. Don't need to get a Pocaphone to get some flagship quality stuff like cameras or processors.
People are more likely to referred as iPhone 8S for avoiding confusion and most underwhelming update yet.
Night mode needs a sensor with 100% Focus Pixels. That’s an expensive sensor and you’re not going to get that in an entry level, cost reduced device.
If you want higher-end features, you’ll have to buy higher-end hardware. Starts at $700. Apple may discontinue iPhone 11 and keep the XR in the lineup this fall, but if not you should be able to get the 11 for $600 after the 12 comes out.
Finally another “Apple is doomed poster”. These have become rare in the last decade.
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