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Looks like the M2 Pro models have HDMI 2.1 !

And sounds like it supports DSC since it can go up to 240hz as well :oops:

Simultaneously supports up to three displays:

  • Up to three displays: Two displays with up to 6K resolution at 60Hz over Thunderbolt and one display with up to 4K resolution at 60Hz over HDMI
  • Up to two displays: One display with up to 6K resolution at 60Hz over Thunderbolt and one display with up to 4K resolution at 144Hz over HDMI
  • One display with up to 8K resolution at 60Hz or 4K resolution at 240Hz over HDMI
Thunderbolt 4 digital video output

  • Support for native DisplayPort output over USB‑C
HDMI display video output

  • Support for one display with up to 8K resolution at 60Hz or 4K resolution at 240Hz
 
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Hmm … which would you choose?
I'm not CPU bound, nor am I GPU bound, I am limited by USB ports, (I/O bound) so the Studio for the win. I would also need a bag of USB C to A adapters unless I got the base M1 Studio, but those are much cheaper than a Thunderbolt to half-dozen USB A hub that I would need to add to the mini to make it useful.
 
That was my thoughts as well. The base M2 is incredible value but once you start to spec the M2 Pro with 32 GB, you're inching closer to the Base Mac Studio. Users who don't need too much extra RAM or storage should benefit nicely though from this pricing.

So basically the same story as with the MacBook Air, stay away from the upgrades. With the M2 MacBook Air, you were forced to upgrade as Apple gimped the base model with a super slow SSD.

So let's if the base M2 Mac Mini is a "normal" functioning model which doesn't need upgrading to "fix".
 
In Europe Mac Mini with M2 Pro is more expansive than Studio with M1 Max. And with the same 10GB ethernet is the difference even bigger. Weird logic. Or maybe some marketing for selling aging M1 Studios now.
 
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so the mini is not getting the MAX chip? and will be stuck at 32GB ram max?
Dropping the price down to $600 for the base model is nice, the jump for the M2 Pro is a bit high, but strange they didn't offer the M2 Max as well in the Mini?
If I were a betting man (I am not), I'd probably bet they'll put it in the Mac Mini's chunky brother, the Mac Studio
 
The high end M2 mini is essentially a Studio without the larger heat sink. Who wants a computer with a -smaller- heatsink? Only way to get rid of the heat is to run the fan faster.

My bet: The high end M2 Mini is going to be a lot louder than the Studio due to faster spinning and smaller fan.

There’s already a very long thread in the Studio forum about the noise the Studio makes (for some). There’s no way the Mini will be quieter.
 
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Hmm … which would you choose?
I was wondering if I would regret my Mac Studio purchase today. I surely don't!
It was a little overkill when I bought it.
But I wouldn't even survived with what I had before I bought it this long, and Mini wouldn't be enough for me I am sure of now.
I'm much better off with 64GB memory. Not that I use all 64GB all the time, but I use more than 32GB.

Always good to not regret earlier purchases when Apple comes out with new stuff 😀
 


Apple today announced an updated Mac mini powered by the new M2 and the all-new M2 Pro chip, offering faster performance in the same design as the previous generation but starting at a lower price of $599.

m2-mac-mini-screen-feature.jpg

Apple announced the M2 chip in June at WWDC, building on the performance of the M1 processor from November 2020. Apple today expanded the M2 lineup with the new M2 Pro and M2 Max chips. The updated Mac mini comes with M2 and M2 Pro chips, which according to Apple, offer significantly faster performance than the previous generation.
The new Mac mini features the same design as before, with no changes despite rumors suggesting a complete redesign. For Mac mini models with M2 Pro, users have access to four Thunderbolt 4 ports compared to only two on models with M2. On both chip configurations, the Mac mini comes with an ethernet port, HDMI port, two USB-A ports, and a headphone jack.

The new Mac mini with M2 and M2 Pro are available for pre-order today and will begin shipping next Tuesday, January 24.

Article Link: Apple Announces New Mac Mini With M2 and M2 Pro Chips at Lower $599 Starting Price
Wow. I was mostly wrong.

They’re actually doing an M2 Pro mini.

But I was right that it couldn’t be sub $1199.

What a great surprise!
 
In Europe Mac Mini with M2 Pro is more expansive than Studio with M1 Max. And with the same 10GB ethernet is the difference even bigger. Weird logic. Or maybe some marketing for selling aging M1 Studios now.

Or maybe just a sign that Apple tends to stick with the prices/exchanges rates for a products lifetime.

-> expect the M2Max/Ultra Studio to get real pricey.
 
Hmm … which would you choose?
Tricky... in reality I've already got a Studio so I'm not looking to upgrade just yet. If I hadn't, then:

(a) for me, if price were that much of an issue, scratch the 10GB Ethernet. It's no use to me unless I spend hundreds upgrading switches, servers etc. That saves another $100.

(b) let's wait and see the benchmarks, but I suspect that the full M2 Pro is going to beat the M1 Max in most cases. It's got more CPU cores, they're individually faster and it's got 19 GPU cores vs. 24 slower cores on the M1 Max.

Personally, I do like the front ports & SD card on the Studio and I think it's a bit better constructed internally (not user upgradeable, but at least the SSD is replaceable, the ports are on individual daughterboards etc.

...but really I'd say the M2 Pro Mini obsoletes the base Studio and Apple need to bump the Studio to M2 Max/Ultra ASAP. Or at least give the base Studio the full 32-core GPU as standard.
 
..but really I'd say the M2 Pro Mini obsoletes the base Studio and Apple need to bump the Studio to M2 Max/Ultra ASAP. Or at least give the base Studio the full 32-core GPU as standard.
Pretty close I'd say. The option for the 12-core M2 Pro CPU in the new Mac mini should be faster than the 10-core M1 Max for CPU tasks like you said, but the M1 Max is still likely faster for graphics given the 32-core GPU option (though a few hundred more expensive).

I'm guessing they can't/won't bump the Mac Studio to M2 until the M2 Ultra chips are ready.
 
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I was wondering if I would regret my Mac Studio purchase today. I surely don't!
It was a little overkill when I bought it.
But I wouldn't even survived with what I had before I bought it this long, and Mini wouldn't be enough for me I am sure of now.
I'm much better off with 64GB memory. Not that I use all 64GB all the time, but I use more than 32GB.

Always good to not regret earlier purchases when Apple comes out with new stuff 😀
Same here as I have a 64 GB Mac Studio. Even if/when the M2 Max chips get put into an updated Mac Studio, I'm still glad I went with the M1 version of the Mac Studio instead of waiting.
 
Remember all those people in the forums yesterday screaming either:

"JON PROSSER IS ALWAYS WRONG!"

and

"THE M2 MINI WILL SEE A MASSIVE PRICE HIKE!"
 
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The option for the 12-core M2 Pro CPU in the new Mac mini should be faster than the 10-core M1 Max for CPU tasks like you said, but the M1 Max is still likely faster for graphics given the 32-core GPU option (though a few hundred more expensive).
...but don't forget the GPU and CPU both have faster single-core performance as well. That will speed up all workloads, not just the ones that are optimised for multi-threading and make good use of all the cores. OTOH the CPU core count only differs in the number of efficiency cores so that might be more about power saving in laptops than desktop performance - still the M1 has 8 performance cores vs. 8 faster performance cores in the M2. Lots of applications (e.g. audio) that don't really trouble the GPU, let alone light up all 32 GPU cores.
 
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"THE M2 MINI WILL SEE A MASSIVE PRICE HIKE!"

With the base specs (8/256) endlessly unchanged, even with a starting price drop ... it does start to become effectively a price hike (in terms of real world actual value) at some point here.

I remain really irritated that they don't bump the base to at least 16/256

And if they are going to keep starting at 8/256, then stop gouging for upgrades.

The upgrade gouging remains my #1 complaint here
 
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