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Apple Announces Oceanic+ App Now Available for Apple Watch Ultra
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I think they WILL have good luck! Most people dive a few times a year.
I used Apple to sign up. No issues.
Did you select a subscription at signup? I did, so there’s a chance it may be related to subscribing.
With the Apple sign up, once I selected my date of birth and ticked the box, I tapped to continue and something flashes for half a second then back to the signup page. Signing up via the email option worked first time.
It does require it. The "free version" is snorkel only. If you want to dive, you have to subscribe. It's a huge oversight.
Ok.
I did have to click the “continue” button twice using Apple sign up. And yes, I got redirected to the signup page and just hit continue again there. Let me in after that.
They sure do charge subs for features with the hardware already installed. Or at least they are going to.
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I am not sure why people expected this for free as it appears to be created by a developer that worked with apple on this.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that it should be free. The argument is against the subscription model.
You're not trusting the Apple Watch specifically. You'd be trusting the Oceanic+ app, which is your "real dive computer." Oceanic has been in this biz for a long, long time and they have the expertise and experience to make this work. I'm disappointed there is no air integration available at launch, though.
BTW, recreational divers generally use dive computers. They don't do it the way Dirk does anymore. Also, Cussler plays a little fast and loose with Dirk's adventures. I have never seen Dirk and Giordano ever sit down and plan a dive. They always just gear and go, which the majority of recreational divers don't do. But I do dearly love those adventure novels.
We knew that was going to be the standard when apple announced it. For the most part I wonder how some of the developers asses the value of their app. In this case, looking at it as a whole, the test environment for features is a little more than handing a device to someone sitting on the couch so there is that need for a more predictable revenue stream.
I was confused by your choice of words. To me, "gas analysis" means measuring the ratio of gases in the mix. I believe the industry term for what you describe is "air integration" which simply means that the computer can monitor your actual consumption which makes for better modeling of tissue saturation. I agree that that is a great feature, and I would certainly want to have it if I owned my equipment. But I, like most recreational divers (I'm guessing) dive very safely without it.
Have you priced a Suunto D5 drive computer? This is a wrist mounted device that has just one funtion, diving. It costs $950.
OK, there are cheaper dive computers The Suunto Viper is $435. But again, it is a single function device that has no use above water.
I'm honestly surprised to hear ANY peeps from Apple users honestly. You'd think with all remarks such as "Apple users are the best consumers" or "Apple users actually pay for things", they'd be on board with subscriptions, etc. Granted, there were quite some vocal opposition when Apple One raised their prices across the board, but still.
You don’t seem to be familiar with the dive community. The only subscription you would probably ever pay for is a deal with a local dive shop for tank fills at a better than normal rate. And this is not a monthly thing, it’s more of a block of fills at a reduced rate.
Other than that, buying dive insurance at a monthly rate is a possibility.
But all electronics are owned outright and firmware upgrades don’t cost a penny.
Total facepalm seeing Arial on that developer's website.
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font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont;What is the algorithm in Oceanic app? Probably some modified Buhlmann-Hahn or RGBM. Progres in diving algorythms is extremely slow. Not worth more than 5$ a year. This app should be paid once for not more than 20-50$ no subscription model. For those who say "pay daily" - you probably never dived and don't know importance of logbook. Oceanic app IMHO tries to make user slave to trick into paying for keeping logs.
It actually is a subscription-based app. If you must pay monthly or yearly to use it...that's a subscription. Take a peek at their website...at the very top it states SUBSCRIPTION. THAT IS...if you want it to do more than the Ultra dive function can do on its own. My guess is, if you need all of the subscription features; you likely already have a dive watch or a dive computer on your reg.
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A sub actually is required. Two of the most important features for divers, Tissue Loading and Decompression Info, are behind the paywall.
Oceanic+ App Subscription Plan - Oceanic Worldwide
www.oceanicworldwide.com
I know mine into the metal door frame in my office at least twice a day (don't know why) no scratches so far, seems pretty durable.
It's not the fact that it costs money, it's the fact that it's a subscription model. SAAS. Lame!!!!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡
Have you bothered adding up your monthly/annual subscriptions recently? I pay for Apple One (Family version), 2TB storage, YouTube Premium, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Carrot Weather, 1Password (family), a custom domain, a DNS provider, Backblaze (online backups), Ultimate Guitar, Infuse (media/Plex client), seedboxes, Mega.nz storage, Halide, Parcel (delivery tracking) and probably more. And I'm supposed to pay monthly fees for an iPad calculator app, a fancy calendar app, and now a dive calculator app? Lame. I understand that developers are in it for the money, it's a business, etc. But at least give people the option of paying once and being done with it. These subscription-model-only apps are the absolute WORST. 😡
$800 is well into a good dive computer. My Aqualung runs about that, and reads the tank pressure from a wireless transmitter (which AW Ultra does not) and does not require a $79 subscription every year (which Oceanic does if you want it to work like a proper computer). It works nicely with MacDive, which is an excellent dive log program that is bot hiOS and MacOS compatible and all around good stuff. Just to be clear, it is NOT a dive computer, though.
And here are plenty of gripes with a subscription in this case. If Oceanic goes under, do you just lose everything? What if they decide to stop updating? What are you paying for every year when the dive tables have been set for decades. The ocean isn't going anywhere. It's at least 6000 years old. What if their login servers go down?
I don't like subscriptions. I want my dive computer to work even after the zombie apocalypse. Subscriptions are bad, especially when unnecessary.
The AW Ultra does more. I get it. I costs more. Now I can decide to pay for that or not. Apple One provides services that require overhead and maintenance. That 2TB of storage and all the TV content have to be paid for. as does the power and the tech support. Once again, I can decide to pay for that or not. Just because I have money in my bank account doesn't mean I automatically owe it to whoever can turn their product into a subscription. I do not care it is the Dive computer, the Toyota key fob, the BMW heated seats or the Mercedes sport mode on their EVs. You are trying to 'rent' we a product you want me to buy first. No thanks.
What does dive computer require a subscription for? The dive tables aren't changing. What do I get, other than access to hardware that I already bought from someone else? And I used to LOVE Oceanic gear. At one point, my rig looked like I was sponsored by them. Ah well.