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But do credit reporting agencies or 411.com know my musical taste? I don't think so.

I know you are kidding, but for those who didn't get the sarcasm: the real risk, then, is humming when you walk down the street, thus revealing your true identify. :)

Those who delist their phone numbers, and worry because someone knows what city they live in, now have a new fear! "Loose lips sink ships" never meant more...
 
You're not that important for an intelligence shop to care about.

The FBI, CIA, CSIS, SAS, etc. are more than welcome to keep tabs on me. It'll be a rather uneventful surveillance, however.

Marketers are free to tailor their ads to me. Ok. Again, so what.

That's very naive. A government could data mine people like you and me for political campaign purposes. With one party having access to the data, that can be an issue. But we all know politicians and the federal government play fair and never abuse power in this country. :rolleyes:


After all, I do have the right to remain silent about my music preferences - and this is not the time to waive that right in favour of Ping.


Exactly. Yet the irony is that those who scoff at your concern are most likely flag waivers who believe the US can do no wrong. Why do they not understand the nation they love, or the principles it is supposed to stand for?
 
Yes, that's a bit different, since most people on MR don't post about their daily lives. Most manage to stick to the topic, and some even provide useful or insightful posts.

LOL, OMG you made my day with this post. LOL. First, every hour of the day on MR, after the first couple of posts, the thread ends up going OT, so much so that I've forgotten what the thread topic was about.
Secondly, you should check many threads, I can't count how people just love to talk about themselves and their personal lives on MR. They'll start a thread asking for help on a problem they have, but first they'll start off by telling us that they took their GF out to lunch or they were hanging out at the mall eating pizza while thinking about what they are planning to do the rest of the day, then after a full paragraph of their life story that nobody frickin' cares about here they finally get to the topic at hand.
Oh, and my favorite ones, "The Spill on Keyboard threads". The OP will start out telling the forum that he was drinking coke while reading his favorite book or a text book for school because he has an assignment deadline, he reached to turn the page on the book......dadadada...and then when his hand slightly turned he looked down and noticed that the trackpad/keyboard had a small bit of liquid on it. Most of that was a complete waste of time, just get to the point, you spilled coke on your keyboard, that's all we need to know.
And the ranting and venting posts, just another form of therapy so they can have someone to talk to. Yeah, SOME posts are useful and insightful but most of it is just entertainment for people and another way of social networking. Why do you think MR has a Marketplace here, it's for networking with people so you can sell your stuff.

People use MR as social networking source just like Facebook, Twitter and Ping.
 
That's very naive. A government could data mine people like you and me for political campaign purposes. With one party having access to the data, that can be an issue. But we all know politicians and the federal government play fair and never abuse power in this country. :rolleyes:

So? You'll have to do a lot better than that.
 
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Or get off of daddy's credit card and get your own. Not old enough? Then you don't get an opinion...

I wouldn't act like you know exactly our situation so maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge. But it's the only way that if we all want to buy something, we can share through home sharing. Also my mom uses the same account as my dad so they don't have to waste money buying the same things over and over again. We do it in order to save money and we like a lot of the same music so it saves us time and money. I would just like there to be a better option for those people who do have to share an iTunes account, which they make you in order to use home sharing.
 
LOL, OMG you made my day with this post. LOL. First, every hour of the day on MR, after the first couple of posts, the thread ends up going OT, so much so that I've forgotten what the thread topic was about.
Secondly, you should check many threads, I can't count how people just love to talk about themselves and their personal lives on MR. They'll start a thread asking for help on a problem they have, but first they'll start off by telling us that they took their GF out to lunch or they were hanging out at the mall eating pizza while thinking about what they are planning to do the rest of the day, then after a full paragraph of their life story that nobody frickin' cares about here they finally get to the topic at hand.
Oh, and my favorite ones, "The Spill on Keyboard threads". The OP will start out telling the forum that he was drinking coke while reading his favorite book or a text book for school because he has an assignment deadline, he reached to turn the page on the book......dadadada...and then when his hand slightly turned he looked down and noticed that the trackpad/keyboard had a small bit of liquid on it. Most of that was a complete waste of time, just get to the point, you spilled coke on your keyboard, that's all we need to know.
And the ranting and venting posts, just another form of therapy so they can have someone to talk to. Yeah, SOME posts are useful and insightful but most of it is just entertainment for people and another way of social networking. Why do you think MR has a Marketplace here, it's for networking with people so you can sell your stuff.

People use MR as social networking source just like Facebook, Twitter and Ping.


LOL, you said Ping. :p
 
That's a whole lot of baloney.

Credit reporting agencies already have every financial detail about you, from current address, to DOB, to previous addresses, employment, info, etc. With simple internet search tools if I can't find you directly, I can probably find your family members, or even call every single last name that's the same as yours in your area and make inquiries about you. Love the White Pages.

Chances are, you're on 411.com. White pages listings.

Anyone can randomly find me and intend to "hurt me financially." Is it easy? Not with today's security tech on debit cards, credit cards, etc. You have a lot more to fear from a pissed-off ex than you do from some random stranger. If you have friends who know your phone number or even casual acquaintances who know your name and in which city you live you're at even greater risk! (But of what, really?)

Any time anyone, from anywhere, sends me regular mail, and the mail is in transit, it's vulnerable. If your mailbox does not have a lock and key anyone can open it.

Can someone get hold of all my passwords, codes, security numbers for my credit products this way? LOL good luck.

Your name and location is already out there. The question is: what can someone do with it that isn't a huge pain in the ass security-wise? Not a whole lot.
Now have a look at the Ping API for iOS 4.2 Funny isn't it :D
 
Ping? Wtf?

My music library is mine. It's personal. It's no one's business. I will never enable Ping on any of my devices. I hope Apple will add a preference for hiding Ping from future releases of iTunes 10.
 
You're not that important for an intelligence shop to care about.

The FBI, CIA, CSIS, SAS, etc. are more than welcome to keep tabs on me. It'll be a rather uneventful surveillance, however.

Marketers are free to tailor their ads to me. Ok. Again, so what.

Wow. It's ****ing terrifying that people just role over now, isn't it? :(:(:(
 
Jesus you guys are vicious. I'm gonna give it a chance I guess, even with my original disgust. When it takes off, some of you guys are gonna feel stupid. Just like what happened with Twitter.
 
For whatever crappy corporate reason it recommended that I listen to Lady Gaga, Katy Perry and Linkin Park. With direct links to buy their music. No.

How on earth did it come to that conclusion when my library is filled with songs nothing like the above "musicians"? I thought maybe it needs some data to go off. I played a few tracks, rated some, created new Genius playlists and it still told me to buy bad music.

I'm not going to use Ping.
 
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Ping - Pong.... I wonder how many people will waste away there days watching what their "friends" are listening to.

Get back to work!

LanPhantom

Yes, that's a risk with any social network, and now the only option for IT staff would be to block the iTunes store entirely since Ping is built into it.

However, on the plus side, I've already discovered some fun and interesting new music through Ping. For me, it's breathing some new life in my iTunes shopping... which I should avoid as well. lol
 
My music library is mine. It's personal. It's no one's business. I will never enable Ping on any of my devices. I hope Apple will add a preference for hiding Ping from future releases of iTunes 10.

I've found Ping to be useful and, honestly, find it rather convenient to be able to share my music purchases and likes with my followers. Saves me from having to manually send suggestions to friends by email, which I've done in the past quite a bit.

I agree with you, though. Apple -- keep the control in the user's hands... give us an option to disable *and* hide Ping altogether. I know you won't, but I'm asking anyway.
 
For whatever crappy corporate reason it recommended that I listen to Lady Gaga, Katy Perry and Linkin Park. With direct links to buy their music. No.

How on earth did it come to that conclusion when my library is filled with songs nothing like the above "musicians"? I thought maybe it needs some data to go off. I played a few tracks, rated some, created new Genius playlists and it still told me to buy bad music.

I'm not going to use Ping.

This is truly the biggest problem with Ping, it's not the privacy crap, it's not the lack of content, it's that there is no recommendation engine in place. The recommendations they have now are all manually added, as in they just have a giant list of artists and it doesn't do any calculation to try to recommend ones to you. It doesn't even attempt to match other people to follow who have similar tastes either.

So basically it has nothing to offer if you are trying to find something new to listen to, or find new friends with similar tastes. The only thing it offers is the ability to follow people you know you like, and check out their updates. That's not really that amazing and it's not really enough of a hook to keep people coming back.

I hope Apple is just still working on the recommendation engine, and hasn't implemented it yet because it's not optimized for the kind of loads they are getting right now. I really do think if they implemented it there would be a lot more to Ping than there is right now.
 
personally I just want to remove ping off the damn side menu. It is taking up space for something I have zero interested in using and never will have interested in using.

I hate how apple is not giving us an option and more trying to shove it down on us.

Back in the day the annoying get Quicktime pro ad popping up every time we opened up quick time pushed me to go pirate the app just so the ad would go away. I never used a single feature of quicktime pro. I just wanted the ad to go away.
 
Jesus you guys are vicious. I'm gonna give it a chance I guess, even with my original disgust. When it takes off, some of you guys are gonna feel stupid. Just like what happened with Twitter.

Hah. "What happened" with Twitter is still in the process of happening so I wouldn't hold up its fifteen minutes of fame as a role model quite yet :)
 
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