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OS X is now a brand more than a version number. I don't think we will see OS XI whilst it is still based on Darwin - it will require a major kernel or core OS change, but thats unlikely for at least a decade.

Nothing to do with the original point by the way. They still camped on the same version number all these years and maybe forever yet microsoft has not yet.
 
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It has been predicted and confirmed that Windows Ten is the last new version of Windows.

Until there is some major paradigm shift in the hardware, don't expect OS X to go anywhere.

I know, but nothing to do with the post I replied to. Once windows stays on 10 for 14 years it will be the same thing.....well, closer. He said it has been on windows for 30 years and said noting about a version number. Yes, I know windows is going to do it and when that happens saying os stopped on x and windows stopped on 10 will be the same. Just pointing out the difference in the first post.
 
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I know, but nothing to do with the post I replied to. Once windows stays on 10 for 14 years it will be the same thing.....well, closer.

You're missing the point. Windows has been the same underlying OS for 20 or more years - Windows NT.

Windows NT is analogous to OS X. Windows 10 is the tenth major release of Windows NT (the only time in the last 17 years where marketing name has corresponded to NT version). El Capitan is the Twelth major release of OS X.

Forget about marketing names and version numbers, they are meaningless from a technology standpoint.
 
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You're missing the point. Windows has been the same underlying OS for 20 or more years - Windows NT.

Windows NT is analogous to OS X. Windows 10 is the tenth major release of Windows NT. El Capitan is the Twelth major release of OS X.

Forget about marketing names and version numbers.

Forget? That's what the whole original comment was about sitting on a version number.

You are changing the goalposts. The original post was about apple sitting on x all these years and I commented microsoft has not sit on a version number. You are reading too much into it, you are missing the point. It has nothing to do with underlying os's.......at least the comment.

That's like talking about the names of ships and the all of a sudden changing to the engines.
 
You're missing the point. Windows has been the same underlying OS for 20 or more years - Windows NT.

Windows NT is analogous to OS X. Windows 10 is the tenth major release of Windows NT. El Capitan is the Twelth major release of OS X.

Forget about marketing names and version numbers, they are meaningless from a technology standpoint.
This is one completely valid school of thought. In all honesty, version names are somewhat arbitrary and more a product of marketing. Case and point: Windows 7 has a 6.* version number. None of it really matters. I had never really thought of it as NT as the current generation, but that's a great thought.
 
Forget? That's what the whole original comment was about sitting on a version number.

You are changing the goalposts. The original post was about apple sitting on x all these years and I commented microsoft has not sit on a version number. You are reading too much into it, you are missing the point. It has nothing to do with underlying os's.......at least the comment.

That's like talking about the names of ships and the all of a sudden changing to the engines.
So you have an issue with marketing? Sickboy is referring to actual code.
 
Forget? That's what the whole original comment was about sitting on a version number.

You are changing the goalposts. The original post was about apple sitting on x all these years and I commented microsoft has not sit on a version number. You are reading too much into it, you are missing the point.

If you look at it from the perspective that OS X is the operating system name and not a version number, what I'm saying makes sense. Pretty much any list or reference of historical operating systems separates Mac OS and OS X as different operating systems, which is valid because they are completely different operating systems.
 
So you have an issue with marketing? Sickboy is referring to actual code.

So you have an issue with reading the posts before posting? It does help to read first. I don't have an issue with anything, I pointed out a mistake. A poster said:

How long are they gonna stick with "OS X"? Been what... 14 years now? :eek:

Sickboy said:

Microsoft has been using windows for thirty years.

I pointed out that one, osx, stopped on a version number. NOTHING was mentioned about code.

Now he's changing it to code and how windows has been on nt for the last so many years, it's changing the goal posts as that has nothing to do with windows for the last 30 years. Now the attacks come over pointing that out. Jeez.

Now explain to me how that means I am upset over marketing. It means I pointed out the difference, not that it bothers me. Why do people here think apple is a member of their family? I like and use apple products, but I do wave pom pom's for any company...especially rich ones.
 
So you have an issue with reading the posts before posting? It does help to read first. I don't have an issue with anything, I pointed out a mistake. A poster said:



Sickboy said:

Microsoft has been using windows for thirty years.

I pointed out that one, osx, stopped on a version number. NOTHING was mentioned about code.

Now he's changing it to code and how windows has been on nt for the last so many years, it's changing the goal posts as that has nothing to do with windows for the last 30 years. Now all of the fanbois are coming out of the woodwork.
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It's fine, man. You're just whining. We get it, you don't like Apple's marketing decisions.

Here's OS X Panther
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Here's OS X Yosemite
OS-X-Yosemite-Tour-of-Redesigned-About-This-Mac-447131-2.jpg

Seriously. Stop worrying about it. Windows 10 is more like XP and 7 than it is like 8.1
 
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Yes, you're right, my initial comparison was not correct but I am now correct. Windows NT = OS X

So you have an issue with reading the posts before posting? It does help to read first. I don't have an issue with anything, I pointed out a mistake. A poster said:



Sickboy said:

Microsoft has been using windows for thirty years.

I pointed out that one, osx, stopped on a version number. NOTHING was mentioned about code.

Now he's changing it to code and how windows has been on nt for the last so many years, it's changing the goal posts as that has nothing to do with windows for the last 30 years. Now the attacks come over pointing that out. Jeez.
 
Split View: AKA Windows 7 snap
Cursor Finder: been in Windows since 95, you can make it flash a little circle around your cursor with the "Ctrl" key.

Nice job copying almost everything Windows has had since 7, Apple.

Windows 10 looks more promising than ever now. For the first time ever, OSX is the boring one.
 
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Doubling down on Metal. Can someone explain in plain English what moving from OpenGL to Metal will do?

OpenGL is moving to Vulkan, which is really the open standard version of what Metal and Direct X 12 do. Vulkan is also a lot more general purpose. Metal is really just for 3D rendering. The whole system is very short sighted, at least the one on iOS. I hope they don't ignore Vulkan.
 
It's fine, man. You're just whining. We get it, you don't like Apple's marketing decisions.

Here's OS X Panther
macosx103.png


Here's OS X Yosemite
OS-X-Yosemite-Tour-of-Redesigned-About-This-Mac-447131-2.jpg

Seriously. Stop worrying about it. Windows 10 is more like XP and 7 than it is like 8.1

Whining? Seriously? i never made the remark of them sitting on x, someone else did. I reported your post for insulting, it's childish. I just pointed out the differences and I do not use windows so I do not care. It's you getting your undies in a bunch. I guess you would have to be able to comprehend the posts.

I'll be going though austin soon, how about talking about this in person? Think you can get out from behind your keyboard?
 
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Do you mean Windows 7? I've been using BetterTouch Tool for window snapping for years.

Def. Windows 8.. when you snap in 8 using an App and Desktop, it has the exact same black bar down the Middle like OSX El Capitan.

snap-view-different-apps-4.jpg
 
Split View: AKA Windows 7 snap
Cursor Finder: been in Windows since 95, you can make it flash a little circle around your cursor with the "Ctrl" key.

Nice job copying almost everything Windows has had since 7, Apple.

Windows 10 looks more promising than ever now. For the first time ever, OSX is the boring one.
As someone who uses Windows 7 and Server 2008 every day, the implementation of Aero Snap is fine, but if Apple can improve on it, I'm all for it. For example, if you stretch one of the Windows in Aero snap, the other window doesn't automatically resize.

Sure, Aero Snap isn't new, but that doesn't mean it can't be improved upon.
 
I love METAL in OS X. When they announced METAL last year, the first thing in my mind was that they should bring this to OS X and make it the default 3D API instead of Open GL.

And that's exactly what they did. Open GL is in a transition anyway, it'll be couple years before we get Open GL NG. During that time Windows will get DirectX 12, this year, and Apple will get METAL, again, this year.

By the time NG releases, I wonder how relevant it'll be.

Metal and DirectX 12 still very much have they heads shoved up the 3D rendering pipe. Vulkan is designed to be much more general purpose. Having proprietary rendering api's in not good for anyone. I'm not happy Apple is doing their own thing in this arena. To answer how relevant it will be, OpenGL is still relevant, and it's still stuck as a singled-thread issued api.
 
Although not having problems with Yosemite, that '50% faster renderings' sounds so sweet to my ears..
A, and the main thing - Can we just vote or make a petition or something to change that name? 'El capitan'? Seriously now? I firstly thought it was a troll.. :D

What's with all the hating on the name? It makes sense, El Cap being one of Yosemite's iconic peaks. If El Cap is to Yosemite what Snow Leopard was to a Leopard, I don't see what's bad about the name.
 
I get that many people won't like this release because of the lack of new features, but do you know how good it is to have a stable operating system? Better performance, better battery life and what not. That's why Windows XP lasted for years.

I hope that Metal starts bringing quality games to the Mac so I don't have to dual boot often. Or at least better frames per second.
 
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