Apple Announces OS X 'Mavericks' with Tabbed Finder, Safari Redesign, Maps and iBooks

[cjmillsnun]

This alone will keep me on Snow Leopard.
Sorry.
Apple + Cloud = failure.

Ummm. iTunes store? Apple + cloud has been a success for many many years

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Also, the sheer existence of Launchpad already tells enough. The underlying problem isn't solved by just removing this icon from the Dock.

How the hell is something that is there that you DON'T HAVE TO USE an underlying problem? Some people like it, others don't. If you don't like it you're not FORCED to use that particular thing.

 

[sparks9]

I really don't like that name, it's too American. I have no reference to these Californian locations.

But the new features look very nice.

 

[cjmillsnun]

Copy paste will not be updated but remain the same as it was in 1994...no interest in fixing

It's NOT BROKEN... It works just fine.

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So this naming thing. Small thing in light of today's announcements, but still...

Why "OS X"? What's with the X? I never saw anywhere that this is officially Mac OS version 10.9 regardless of the previous version's number.

If it is 10.9, why start a new naming convention at an x.9 iteration. If it really is OS 11, what's with OS X?! Since "OS XI" is unwieldy, and this is the major development we're told it is, Apple should just drop the X altogether and call it Mac OS Mavericks. The beginning of the California series, not a name switch for the last version of the X series. Done and done. Just sayin'.

- K

The X is not just 10 but also refers to the Unix underpinnings of the OS.

OS X could quite happily continue as OS 10.x for many years.

 

[haravikk]

I was afraid for a moment. If it looked like iOS 6, I'd be fine, but iOS 7 is yuck.

Why? I'm not surprised this version isn't iOS 7 styled, but I would fully expect the next one to be.

 

[Fatboy71]

and be unusable with gmail?

I use Mail now with a Gmail account and it works fine.

 

[Terrified]

as i posted before:

Developer Preview System Requirements:

The OS X v10.9 Developer Preview supports the following Macs:
- iMac (Mid-2007 or later)
- MacBook (13-inch Aluminum, Late 2008), (13-inch, Early 2009 or later)
- MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid-2009 or later), (15-inch, Mid/Late 2007 or later), (17-inch, Late 2007 or later)
- MacBook Air (Late 2008 or later)
- Mac Mini (Early 2009 or later)
- Mac Pro (Early 2008 or later)
- Xserve (Early 2009)

Thanks for that. Very helpful.

Anyone got any idea if certain features are restricted? I'm running an 11 inch Air late 2010 with 2gb RAM, and I'm interested to see if anything's not going to work on that hardware.

 

[6388442]

How the hell is something that is there that you DON'T HAVE TO USE an underlying problem? Some people like it, others don't. If you don't like it you're not FORCED to use that particular thing.

Good you rip one single paragraph completely out of context. If you had read on, you'd have my explanation why this is a problem.

 

[Rossatron]

For another glorified service pack? I'd almost hate to pay that much.

Only that its a bit more than a service pack

Who cares?

I do

 

[phoenixsan]

Well.....

I am not dissapointed, but I am not amazed. Better power management and better memory handling are welcome improvements. Tabbed Finder? I dont know, have to see working in the real life to assess how well is working. Same with the separate displays management. And building up over the currently iOS-ification of Mac OS X, I see interesting the choice of apps coming to the Mac desktop. Seems to me would have be better a sandboxing enviroment to run iOS apps, as the user wishs....

Mavericks? So-so name. More worrying is the precedent what involves a change of name. Change of names in Apple will mount to a complete restart, as histoy as showed. But dont seems like this in this case.

So, my overall evaluation?....We will wait and see....

 

[cjmillsnun]

Good you rip one single paragraph completely out of context. If you had read on, you'd have my explanation why this is a problem.

No it's not out of context at all. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

OS X isn't engineered especially for nex4k. It's made for everyone. It always has been. Look at the keynote for the OS X launch (Macworld 2000) if you don't believe me. There was a quote about it being easy for new users and advanced enough for pros. That is still true today. Therefore it will have features you don't need or want. I'm not enamoured with launchpad either. I prefer to use spotlight as I have done since Tiger. But people who come to the Mac from iOS will find Launchpad intuitive.

Luckily both methods work, as does the dock and opening the applications folder in finder.

They don't use that much overhead so I can live with the stuff I don't use being there.

 

[packeteer]

The big question: Will Mail still suck?

thats a given

 

[DudeDad]

Next version, OS X Malibu surf shop.

Nope. OS X Dude

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California themes in the future:

OS X Kobe
OS X Quakes
OS X Kardashian (no changes under the hood, just cosmetic upgrades)
OS X Prop 8 (no outputs, but plenty of inputs)
OS X Hollywood (featuring a major iMovie upgrade)
OS X Ahnold (Terminator Edition)
OS XXX (adult version)

 

[tbrinkma]

So this naming thing. Small thing in light of today's announcements, but still...

Why "OS X"? What's with the X? I never saw anywhere that this is officially Mac OS version 10.9 regardless of the previous version's number.

If it is 10.9, why start a new naming convention at an x.9 iteration. If it really is OS 11, what's with OS X?! Since "OS XI" is unwieldy, and this is the major development we're told it is, Apple should just drop the X altogether and call it Mac OS Mavericks. The beginning of the California series, not a name switch for the last version of the X series. Done and done. Just sayin'.

- K

I'm sure someone else will have answered this already, but just in case...

1) It's not OS X as in "OS ex", It's OS X as in OS ten. You know, as in the roman numeral. Always has been.

2) Version numbers are not decimal numbers. For one thing, they have multiple decimals (eg: 10.8.3). You can go from 10.9.4 to 10.10.0 to 10.11.0. There's no need to bump the major version from 10 to 11 just because you've already used 9 for the minor version number.

3) Switching from the cats at 10.9? They've pretty much run through the big cats. They had to re-use the same cat by different names to make it this far.

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Yes the name Sea Lion sound really nice but there is no animal in real world called Sea Lion.

There is animal in the real world called Mavericks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maverick_(animal)

Um...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_lion

 

[QCassidy352]

Why are the icons not getting a facelift like iOS?

Facelift? That was a hatchet job. If that's the template then stay the hell away from the OS X icons.

 

[donutbagel]

Apple probably ran out of names of what to call cat of one last name for OS X.

Next update probably be Mac OS 11 and probably be names of moons , planets , sea creatures or gods or some other naming thing .

Mac OS X cats .
Mac OS 11 moons
Mac OS 12 sea creatures

Of course, but why go with MAVERICKS?! That's just an awful name that, as someone said, sounds like a disease.

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This alone will keep me on Snow Leopard.
Sorry.
Apple + Cloud = failure.

It asks up front when you install Mountain Lion: "Would you like to use iCloud?" I'd press yes, but if you hate it for some reason, you can say no.

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Why? I'm not surprised this version isn't iOS 7 styled, but I would fully expect the next one to be.

Because iOS 7's icons look like Steve Ballmer drew them as a child.

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seed note says:

Developer Preview System Requirements:

The OS X v10.9 Developer Preview supports the following Macs:
- iMac (Mid-2007 or later)
- MacBook (13-inch Aluminum, Late 2008), (13-inch, Early 2009 or later)
- MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid-2009 or later), (15-inch, Mid/Late 2007 or later), (17-inch, Late 2007 or later)
- MacBook Air (Late 2008 or later)
- Mac Mini (Early 2009 or later)
- Mac Pro (Early 2008 or later)
- Xserve (Early 2009)

- Mac Pro (Early 2008 or later)

WOOT WOOT WOOT

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Facelift? That was a hatchet job. If that's the template then stay the hell away from the OS X icons.

I agree. After looking at them the second time, they're not so bad, but they still suck. Well, except for the new Safari icon. That just seems worse and worse the more I look at it.

 

[CosmoCopus]

Mountain Lion sounded so cool and high.

Mavericks ......double yuk. A basketball team.

who came up with this?

 

[gnasher729]

So this naming thing. Small thing in light of today's announcements, but still...

Why "OS X"? What's with the X? I never saw anywhere that this is officially Mac OS version 10.9 regardless of the previous version's number.

There have been two operating systems for Macintosh: MacOS, with versions from 1.0 to 9.0 (or maybe 9.1, feel free to check Wikipedia), and OS X, with versions from 10.0 to 10.8 released, and 10.9 just announced. The name OS X will be kept until there is a substantially different operating system (and by substantially different I mean something that is much more different than iOS, for example), which will probably not happen for the next 15 to 20 years.

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2) Version numbers are not decimal numbers. For one thing, they have multiple decimals (eg: 10.8.3). You can go from 10.9.4 to 10.10.0 to 10.11.0. There's no need to bump the major version from 10 to 11 just because you've already used 9 for the minor version number.

There was a version 10.4.11, so there is precedent for this.

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It says right there that Keychain is moving to the Cloud. Meaning to me it is no longer on your computer.
Scary.

Your interpretation is scary. But so far, everything that is stored "in iCloud" is also on every device that sync'd to it, and on the device where the information was created. So if you create a password on your Mac, it is on the Mac and stays there; it is also copied to iCloud, then copied onto an iOS device or second Mac when needed, _and stays there_.

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That means my wife's MBP is supported. Surprised, as I would have expected Core2Duo support to be dropped in 10.9.

There's no reason to do so. Core Duo which was a 32-bit only processor was dropped in 10.8, which has the huge advantage for developers that apps written for 10.8 only can assume there is a 64 bit processor, and they can assume that certain modern OS features are available (which were missing on 10.7 in 32-bit code). With Core2 Duo, there is really no justifiabie reason to drop it at the moment.

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Looks like there may be lots of potential problems with this version:

You just posted a ton of information that is under NDA, and only intended for people who right now can legally install 10.9 pre-release versions (in other words, developers). Anybody who has legitimate interest in this information already has it. So if you tried to make yourself appear clever, then you failed miserably.

 

[seveej]

For another glorified service pack? I'd almost hate to pay that much.

Waitaminute! This is no service pack as it will surely have more bugs and vulnerabilities than 10.6.8, 10.7.5 etc.

RGDS,

 

[Prof.]

I just realized something: Mavericks doesn't have Siri! I was really hoping to have Siri for menial tasks like playing music, basic trivial questions, etc.

 

[RedRaven571]

You want some thing catchy pick naming of gods , mythical creatures , sea creatures , Folklore , moon or planets.

The names of starships in Star Trek (a great many of which are names of US naval vessels)!!!

OS X Enterprise
OS X Constellation
OS X Farragut
OS X Potemkin

 

[jimTucson]

Memory Compression

I've been fighting OS X ML's voracious appetite for memory on two 4GB laptops (a MacBook Pro and a MB Air). I can fix the Pro problem by adding memory, but I'm DOA with the Air. I am really hoping this memory trick will drop the memory use down to where a 4GB machine is usable, otherwise WHY IS APPLE STILL SELLING SEALED LAPTOPS WITH 4GB OF MEMORY???

 

[Bensalama21]

I just realized something: Mavericks doesn't have Siri! I was really hoping to have Siri for menial tasks like playing music, basic trivial questions, etc.

it could be added in a future developer version this summer. who knows?

 

[LordVic]

I think we're gonna love this release. No rash changes, but fine improvements under the hood, taking away skeuomorphism, and a few really nice new features and applications (like Maps and iBooks).

I wonder how the older machines (like MBA 2011, non-retina MBP, etc.) can benefit from these new power-performance technologies. I really do wonder!!!

These are my exact questions. As a 2011 MBA 64gb/2gb 11" user, I'm really curious to see if this will breath some new "life" into my MBA with increased battery performance and memory utilizations (Not that i have any problems with it, it still a great computer).

But any performance enhancement tweaks under the hood are very very welcome.

to me, adding ibooks and maps shouldn't be selling features of the OS though. Theres no logical reason these can't come out as stand alone applications for previous versions. it almost sounds like Apple doesn't believe there's enough in Mavericks to sell it on it's own and that it needs some featureset of apps as it's selling point.

 

[BingClawsby]

so what is this... OSXI?

Mavericks? What kind of series is that? They run out of felines to name it?

How about birds? There's lots of birds. Or fish? Or Insects...lots of insect names to mine as well

No matter. The deepest I get into the OS is copying a file and launching an application

 

[xxspirit4musicx]

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I'm still using Snow Leopard and waiting for the third OS X version, and you people at APPLE still continue to make the Finder all GREYED OUT AND TACKING/BORING ---- WHAT IS WRONG W/ YOU PEOPLE. I GUESS I GOT TO BACK TO WINDOWS.

The big question: Will Mail still suck?