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Am I the only one who see this as the beginning of the merger between OS X and iOS?

Yes, you're the only one. iOS is OSX adapted to touch. They will not go the windows route. Tim has explicitly stated that already last year.
 
I'm really excited about this release. The integration between OS X and iOS in Yosemite is something I've desired for a long time.

Things like continuing an email from iOS to OS X or sending/receiving SMS messages on the Mac, the phone call integration.

These are features that made me consider switching to Android due to the deep integration that is possible by using 3rd party applications. I wanted to be able to send/receive texts (not just iMessages) on my Mac and iPad and now Apple has done it.

I'm really looking forward to this release probably more than any other OS X release since OS X Tiger and Leopard.

It's funny all last year it seemed like every major press outfit had a doom and gloom article about Apple. They are not innovating anymore they are not the great company they once were under Steve Jobs and so on. I think it's clear that they can and are still innovating and it starts with Software. Without great software the hardware is meaningless and Apple knows that.
 
@Quu: I haven't been this excited about OS X and even iOS in a long time too. I also love the Python-like Swift. I cannot grasp Objective-C and don't want to spend $700+ just to use C# on OS X and iOS. (Combining the cost of software and dev programs.)
 
The continuity stuff looks fantastic.

New look is good too.

Minium Specs:

" "•"iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)"
"•"MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)"
"•"MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)"
"•"MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)" "•"Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)" "•"Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)" "•"Xserve (Early 2009)"


"•"At least 2 GB of RAM "
"•"At least 10 GB of available disk space (50 GB if you wish to use Caching Server)" "

I'm hoping that's what the minimum is for taking advantage of ALL of the features. Did they cover what the minimum iPhone specs were for the making/taking calls? That's the feature that's freaking cool.
 
The new UI is fantastic imho

I couldn't agree more. They've managed to give OS X the 'flat' look but kept the OS X identity. It doesn't look anything like iOS, which I was afraid of happening.

Also the fact that this system runs on 7 year old Macs is astounding.
 
I was thinking in selling my early 2008 iMac but now as i know that it will run Yosemite i will update it with an SSD :). I'm very happy.
 
@Cloudsurfer: It does look a lot like iOS. Notificationcenter, translucent effects everywhere, dock icon, folder icons etc.

Funny though, that a random mockup with one translucent effect was hated by so many people (looks like windows, not usable etc.), but when it's almost everywhere in an application, it's perfectly fine. Weird.

Personally I think there are too many translucent effects, which isn't really beautiful in some places and I would love to see it with a black background image.

Anyways the keynote was fantastic and I'm happy about all the new developer kits and swift.
 
Hi,

Has someone tried to install it on vmware or parallels?

I tried both, but i couldnt even install it with parallels.

I could install it with vmware, but there is no 3d acceleration, so it is useless...

Do you have any idea how could I turn on the acceleration?
I guess I just have to wait for a newer version of vmware tools.
 
I see that we have some minimum system specs.

Any idea what, if any, new features are restricted to "modern Macs"? For example (from Apple's Mavericks system requirements page for AirPlay Mirroring and Power Nap):

AirPlay Mirroring
Requires a second-generation Apple TV or later. Supported by the following Mac models:

iMac (Mid 2011 or newer)
Mac mini (Mid 2011 or newer)
MacBook Air (Mid 2011 or newer)
MacBook Pro (Early 2011 or newer)
Mac Pro (late 2013)


Power Nap
Supported by the following Mac models:

MacBook Air (Late 2010 or newer)
MacBook Pro with Retina display
iMac (Late 2012 or newer)
Mac Pro (Late 2013)
Mac mini (Late 2012)


Personally, I have a 2011 iMac and looking forward most to AirDrop between Mac and iOS device, Handoff, and plug-in less 1080p Netflix on Safari.
 
For the first time, I'd problems sending an attachment from one iCloud account to another due to size yesterday, the attachment was just 2.5MB? Weird that I see the problem for the first time the day after Apple announces a fix.
 
Their point was actually not the market share relative to competitors but market share within its own ecosystem.

If you design an app for Windows 8, it will be accessible by only 14% of Windows users even though it was released 2 years ago, whereas if you design an app for OS X 10.9, it will be accessible by 51% of OS X users and it was only released last year.

From an OS X developer's perspective, this is great news because we don't have to worry much about backwards compatibility and fragmenting our applications into different versions, as the users of OS X are almost all on very recent versions of the operating system.

I may still get more users on Windows, but I have to make different versions of my app to fit the criteria of each iteration. It's currently not very attractive to make apps for the Windows Market because the user base of Windows 8 and 8.1 are tiny compared to Windows 7. It would be better to make an app for the Desktop environment which will work on Windows 7 and Windows 8. This keeps users stuck on older versions of the operating system, and the over $100 price tag from Windows 7 to Windows 8 is a move that still baffles me (it encourages people to stay on an older version).

Everything said here applies to Android as well -- and is even more relevant because unlike OS X vs Windows, iOS does have a very big chunk of the market share.

I agree with what you say, but I think it is obviously easier to migrate a user base 10 times smaller with a far lower enterprise penetration (companies tend to delay OS updates as much as they can to avoid "breaking" things).
In any case, as you mentioned, the potential customer base of Windows 8.x is twice or more than all OSX versions. That is not a small detail.

By the way, I upgraded to W8 for $30 using the offer MS made during the first 6 months or so. They should have kept that price, though.
 
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Actually thats a good question? And I think you are right, the green button is the new fullscreen button. They showed it in the video.

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Yes, the green button is now the fullscreen button. You can read about that here: http://www.apple.com/osx/preview/design/

Not sure yet if I like that or not. Overall I think the new design isn't as bad as I feared it would be, but it screams Microsoft. It looks a bit dated with the 2D-look.
 
Yes, the green button is now the fullscreen button. You can read about that here: http://www.apple.com/osx/preview/design/

Not sure yet if I like that or not. Overall I think the new design isn't as bad as I feared it would be, but it screams Microsoft. It looks a bit dated with the 2D-look.

As long as the full screen button is instant, and not the slow animation we have to put up with. A nice snappy transition would be welcome.
 
After consulting my pillow I've made up my mind. Yosemite is awesome!

Yes it is very flat and clean and colorful. But the color comes from the content, not the chrome. Buttons still have borders and use symbols instead of words in the color of the app icon. Gosh, iOS 8 is still awful in its use of color.

The unification of titlebar and toolbar is nice. Most apps have no need for a titlebar. Switchers from Windows will welcome the new behavior of the maximize button. Good bye fullscreen button, I liked you but I won't miss you.

The new Dock looks great. All the icons look nicer, more to the point. Swiping between fullscreen and desktop keeps the dock constantly fade-in and fade-out. A 2D dock will look a lot better during these transitions.

It will need time to fully accustom to the new look of OSX, but I think it will be consistent and predictive. Whereas I feel iOS is becoming more and more confusing with every release and every new feature added.
 
I guess I like the design consistency across devices but I wonder why people seem to like flat these days. I remember when OSX came out, everyone loved the 3d buttons and 3D dock. Now these days everyone is into this flat design look. I guess I shouldn't bitch too much because I love IOS 7's design.
 
Can someone explain to me how your phone being a hotspot with the macbook pro would work? Would it be that it is a free hotspot or is the mbp using the data from your phone, and you'd be charged through your carrier for using your phone in that way? Thanks

I'm curious too, I assume you will have to have hotspot enabled through your carrier for it to work.

Since I have LTE and unlimited data on my plan, might be a nice option? :cool:
 
You must be the huge troll living under the Golden Gate.

Apple code is bugfree and magic. Everybody knows an Apple beta is more stable than a final version from any other company. And let's not talk about security... :D:p

[Sorry, sorry, but I really have some friends that believe that! :eek:]

Do you have anything relevant or useful to add to the topic? or are you just one of those trolls that just speaks for the sake of it because they are needy for attention?
 
People crying over the new dock...I mean c'mon, it doesn't even look bad. Maybe you like the 3D look of the previous docks to say this is ugly just isn't true. I like the old dock too but the attacks on this new one is crazy to me. I feel everyone is saying it's bad just to be in the 'it' crowd. But I dunno, just my opinion.

So you have an opinion, but if somebody else has a differing opinion it's somehow wrong?

Aesthetic judgements are subjective.
 
I guess I like the design consistency across devices but I wonder why people seem to like flat these days. I remember when OSX came out, everyone loved the 3d buttons and 3D dock. Now these days everyone is into this flat design look. I guess I shouldn't bitch too much because I love IOS 7's design.

OSX originally had a flat dock. The 3D Dock cam in with OSX 10.5 Leopard. (7 years ago). It's time for change.
 
The 3D dock is gone #

Just how will we live?

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So you have an opinion, but if somebody else has a differing opinion it's somehow wrong?

Aesthetic judgements are subjective.

It is the dock though, I mean...the dock. THE DOCK. Its hidden 99.9% of my time on the computer. I've barely noticed its change from originally flat in 10.2 to 3d in 10.5 and now back to flat again. The irony being people were moaning about 3d and running hacks to return it to 2d, those same people will probably be running them to make it 3d now (always living behind the times). ffs, its THE DOCK.

If you're really worried/upset/angry/bothered about how the OSX dock has change at least you must have a pretty problem free life.

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I'm curious too, I assume you will have to have hotspot enabled through your carrier for it to work.

Since I have LTE and unlimited data on my plan, might be a nice option? :cool:

Of course you use data through your carrier, its not magic free internet that appears out of no where.
 
The dock is absolutely not pretty. I tried to look many times to see it differently, but no, it's still not. And it looks like they had trouble designing a flat trash can lol.
 
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