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Can someone explain to me how your phone being a hotspot with the macbook pro would work? Would it be that it is a free hotspot or is the mbp using the data from your phone, and you'd be charged through your carrier for using your phone in that way? Thanks

Sounds like tethering internet from the phone to the computer. Nothing new, just the activation is more automatic.
 
I really like the fact I get another OS for my aging MP!!!!

Yea, I thought for sure my mid 2007 iMac would be out of luck. 7 year old computer still getting updates is nice, it still does mostly everything I need it to do.
 
Great stuff.

I just don't think that the mentioning Microsoft and Android was necessary. I prefer it better when Apple just ignores the competition on their live events.

I agree. Specially when they somehow try to say that Windows 8 has been a failure, when its market share is higher than all versions of OSX put together. And that is giving OSX for free... :p
 
Much has been said today so I'll just say I'm pretty excited that Apple is finally creating a dedicated Photos app coming out next year.

I hope this is the beginning of breaking down iTunes into three separate apps: Music, Videos, and iTunes Store.

Edit: Actually no, let me take one detail back, and that is the idea of a separate iTunes Store app. Apple should follow suit with what they did with iBooks and just merge the Music app into the iTunes Store app and just be called "iTunes" so users can manage and purchase music content all in one app. Videos should definitely still be separated but also contain it's own store for just movies and TV shows.
 
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Yosemite has ground my system to a hault... soooo buggy!!

You must be the huge troll living under the Golden Gate.

Apple code is bugfree and magic. Everybody knows an Apple beta is more stable than a final version from any other company. And let's not talk about security... :D:p

[Sorry, sorry, but I really have some friends that believe that! :eek:]
 
Continuity looks awesome

Continuity looks awesome. OSX now looks almost as ugly as iOS. But I can live with that because I can fix that without jailbreaking.
 
Wow... Am I the only one who just realized (after reading Apple's preview description) that the top-left coloured buttons on the windows are stoplights? Red, yellow, green... ha! Who would've thought? (I guess everyone but me).
 
I believe people were about to vow an eternity in Mavericks if Apple brought the colorful design of iOS 7 to OS X. I don't see anyone complaining today, so I'll break the ice ;)

I think the design is great, but, just as I found on iOS 7 as well, the dock's design is a step backward. That translucent glass effect makes the OS look a bit outdated, and the high-contrast green and blues make some things feel like they were made in MS Paint with primary RGB colors.

Apart from that, though, this keynote was amazing.

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I agree. Specially when they somehow try to say that Windows 8 has been a failure, when its market share is higher than all versions of OSX put together. And that is giving OSX for free... :p

Their point was actually not the market share relative to competitors but market share within its own ecosystem.

If you design an app for Windows 8, it will be accessible by only 14% of Windows users even though it was released 2 years ago, whereas if you design an app for OS X 10.9, it will be accessible by 51% of OS X users and it was only released last year.

From an OS X developer's perspective, this is great news because we don't have to worry much about backwards compatibility and fragmenting our applications into different versions, as the users of OS X are almost all on very recent versions of the operating system.

I may still get more users on Windows, but I have to make different versions of my app to fit the criteria of each iteration. It's currently not very attractive to make apps for the Windows Market because the user base of Windows 8 and 8.1 are tiny compared to Windows 7. It would be better to make an app for the Desktop environment which will work on Windows 7 and Windows 8. This keeps users stuck on older versions of the operating system, and the over $100 price tag from Windows 7 to Windows 8 is a move that still baffles me (it encourages people to stay on an older version).

Everything said here applies to Android as well -- and is even more relevant because unlike OS X vs Windows, iOS does have a very big chunk of the market share.
 
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Well, I just installed iOS 8 and the new OS X. Someone know how do I pair between my mac and my iPhone for making calls?
 
Yea, I thought for sure my mid 2007 iMac would be out of luck. 7 year old computer still getting updates is nice, it still does mostly everything I need it to do.

I agree, though I will be hesitant to install Yosemite on my 2007 iMac (Mavericks has perceptively slowed it down, though it's still functional ). I'm looking forward to using it on the rMBP.
 
Dangit...so disappointed. They're completely mimicking Microsoft's approach when it comes to their OS's now.

As for design - some people love being on a machine that is designed to look like a 4 year old's leap frog tablet, but I think the design is just awful - especially the dock/icons.

And the most disappointing - barely any actual meat. I always look forward to OS upgrades, and I thought Mavericks brought a lot of useful/powerful new things to the table. Yosemite is just depressing. Not to mention iOS just playing catchup with Android anymore.

This is probably the most I've ever ranted against Apple...but every single person at the studio who watched this today had very, very similar sentiments.

No they aren't. Microsoft's approach is one device for all tasks. Apple's is the best device for every task. Polar opposites. Appearance is subjective, but you'll probably end up eating your words on the rest once you see the changes in person and gain an understanding in the significance of all the developer facing features. It's not a coincidence that iOS and OS X apps are often better than their Android and Windows counterparts.

As for playing catch up, Apple's never been in the market of being "first". They aim to do things "right". Collectively, iOS 8 is going to be a pretty damn refined OS.
 
Not too much of a fan of the design of Yosemite, but I am excited about the features.

Especially the notifications center which right now just gets in my way when things pop up.

Yosemite, iOS8 and a 5.5" iPhone would make me one happy Apple camper.
 
Not to troll, but the nre design looks a lot like ...windows 8 desktop. Just scale down the dock little and extend dock bar edge to edge.

But is the world ready for a dusky rose ui?
 
Ok, I did try it out. I love the new features and I mean love, they were really carefully thought after, but the UI... Holy cows... It looks like it was drawn by a kid. By a kid of the kid that did the iOS 7. Dumb icons, dubious animations, search fields appearing as regular buttons, new font, Finder icon looking like an autist, transparency that's gets distracting on the first minute of use... Notification center widgets looking a lot like Windows widgets (the clock one is totally tasteless and useless)... A lot of doubtful decisions and changes for the sake of changes. Overall feeling is like you're using Linux with a bad OS X/Windows 7 mix theme. Where's the quality control?... Anyone left with a good taste at Apple?..

If you didn't like the iOS 7 design, then fear, fear the Yosemite. FEAR.

Aqua is dead and gone. Everything is flat, except the Game Center bubbles. I don't know how someone can ruin the interface so much. And it's not just a beta issues, it needs a total redesign in order to become usable again.

Disclaimer: this is my opinion, you're free to have and express your own. Just try to stay away from personal insults.
 
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Not to troll, but the nre design looks a lot like ...windows 8 desktop. Just scale down the dock little and extend dock bar edge to edge.
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Marketing BS, now that's rich. Change for the sake of change, again quite rich. If everyone thought that way we'd still have tube televisions.

So many of the UI items were linkages to physical mechanisms to help people understand how it would work in a computer GUI. In a world without those physical items (e.g. buttons), if you were to design a UI (from scratch) you would never choose to create a proud button simply so people could understand when it was depressed. Think about it. It's only so people understand they've clicked it by referencing something outside the computer they would recognise.

We're moving to a world where buttons (proud or not) are rarer and rarer. Touch screen controls don't mimic depressed buttons, why must our computer GUIs still?

Well, they are changing that, it's not for the sake of change and it's not marketing BS, that's just plain silly.

Call it a button, call it a live click area. Either way, defining the active area makes one more productive. It also helps define things as things that are active functions, and things that are simply informative. iOS7 is incredibly poor at that.

In other ways many areas have such little contrast it's hard to decipher which area should be grouped with which. That's the white on white complaint many have. Graphic design 101 - contrast of color, contrast of saturation, contrast brightness. They're pretty good on color, but thank goodness they've got a dark mode.
 
I like the overall look of OS X Yosemite, the only thing that lets it down is the ugly new dock, I think it could have stayed the same as Mavericks but with the new icons, except the trash can as that one is totally revolting like its unfinished. I don't like the name Yosemite for an operating system just seems weird but I don't care as you don't see the name.

I really don't know why they continued with OS X when they stopped with Cat names and changed to places, they should have moved on to OS 11. That's just my opinion.

I like AirDrop between iOS and Mac has finally arrived. Can't wait until its released.
 
Is it just me, or does it seem the brining iDisk back and calling it iCloud Drive?

A backup software was also included with iDisk since 2003. So we may expect an updated version of Time Machine working with iCloud Drive too.
 
I agree & eddy cue said that " apple has the most exciting pipeline in 25 years "

I can't remember the last time apple dedicated so much to software alone and I definitely don't remember a release with this much in it - I've been following these events for 12 years. This is after all the WWDC and not a hardware exhibition. This was apple going back to its core basics and I for one thought it was brilliant.

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People crying over the new dock...I mean c'mon, it doesn't even look bad. Maybe you like the 3D look of the previous docks to say this is ugly just isn't true. I like the old dock too but the attacks on this new one is crazy to me. I feel everyone is saying it's bad just to be in the 'it' crowd. But I dunno, just my opinion.

I've never liked the artificiality of the 3D. For me at least this is a step in the right direction. It's just time for us flat landers.
 
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