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Sure you did. 77% of a non-scientific sample of iPhone 4 launch buyers has no application to iPhone 4S buyers. Or anything else for that matter.

did'nt say you was a upgrader i said 77% were upgrades. 3% percent were android user who switch

Sure you did. You said "all those who brought the iphone are upgraders get a clue." I bought an iPhone 4S. I'm not an upgrader. You are wrong.
 
all those who brought the iphone are upgraders get a clue. show me numbers of new users, last a saw iphone only broung in 250 to 300hthousand per new release but that was 3yrs ago what is it now.

77% are upgrade

You can make up statistics to say anything. 83% of people know that.

Also, 59% of Android owners are she-males, and the other 52% can't count.
 
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he has insider information no-one else has.... that would mean Apple just picked up at least 230,000 new iPhone customers in one day - that would be quite awesome, and wouldn't even take account of continuing 3GS and iPhone4 sales on the same day!

i dont have inside info, but i am interested in knowing how many iphones are sold to those who never had one before.

apple has loyal iphone user who will upgrade when a new iphone comes out thats a given, i just want to now how many new user comes to apple for the iphone.
 
i dont have inside info, but i am interested in knowing how many iphones are sold to those who never had one before.

apple has loyal iphone user who will upgrade when a new iphone comes out thats a given, i just want to now how many new user comes to apple for the iphone.

I'll be a new user. Does that help your mystic quest?
 
Sure you did. 77% of a non-scientific sample of iPhone 4 launch buyers has no application to iPhone 4S buyers. Or anything else for that matter.



Sure you did. You said "all those who brought the iphone are upgraders get a clue." I bought an iPhone 4S. I'm not an upgrader. You are wrong.

well i was wrong, thanks for the correction.

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I'll be a new user. Does that help your mystic quest?

no
 
i dont have inside info, but i am interested in knowing how many iphones are sold to those who never had one before.

There's a limit to that. Each generation of iPhone so far has sold more than all the previous generations combined. So it's literally impossible to gain so many buyers from repeating customers only. It could be possible that presales come largely from people who have eagerly waiting for the next iPhone and many of them could be enthusiastic previous buyers of iPhone since Apple has more repeating customers. However all in all, new customers are more important to them than getting the enthusiasts at this point. There's so much more market to dig for Apple.
 
did'nt say you was a upgrader i said 77% were upgrades. 3% percent were android user who switch
Android users switching to the iphone is more like 30%. Seen recent news articles about it. So they could be your new user?
 
Congratulations for googling an old article based on a rough guess by someone with no hard facts, the subject of which is not the product you thought it was about.

the article is old but its the closes to finding the answer to my ? what do you think is the % of new user that brought or pre order the new iphone 4s,

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Android users switching to the iphone is more like 30%. Seen recent news articles about it. So they could be your new user?

do you have a link?
 
i dont have inside info, but i am interested in knowing how many iphones are sold to those who never had one before.

apple has loyal iphone user who will upgrade when a new iphone comes out thats a given, i just want to now how many new user comes to apple for the iphone.

With 125% year over year growth, the answer is a big number!

If you assume everyone keeps their phone an average of two years, Apple sold 34 million iPhones by the end of Q3 2009. In the next two years, they sold about 120 million iPhones. That's a lot of new users.
 
It might come early

I must have tracked my iPhone 4 a dozen times before it arrived with the FedEx guy, one day early.
 
With 125% year over year growth, the answer is a big number!

If you assume everyone keeps their phone an average of two years, Apple sold 34 million iPhones by the end of Q3 2009. In the next two years, they sold about 120 million iPhones. That's a lot of new users.

thanks i will track it like that.
 
I'll speak for myself here and postulate a hypothesis...

While many of you iPhone 4 owners were bitching like spoiled children about the 4S, a multitude (will perhaps MILTITUDE) of people like me were wetting ourselves over the 4S... why?

Because we're 3G/3GS owners, and when the iPhone 4 came out and immediately ran into antenna problems we all said "nah **** that, I'll wait for them to sort that BS out on the next phone"... which is what they just did!

I for one love the iPhone 4 design and now it's actually a very, very good phone, I (and a boat load of other people) are grabbing them like hot cakes...

No need to be surprised, as many here have mentioned in other threads, the MR demographic is not entirely representative of humankind; many of us didn't jump on the (slightly) flawed iPhone 4 when it came out. We're jumping in now though and (like Steve) are sitting back with what can only be described as a big ****-eatin' grin on our faces!

I know there are a bunch of people around here who hate the truth... but I reckon 3G/3GS owners are a big part of it.

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Well said
 
But if you continue using a "dumbphone" that makes you a visionless dummy according to iTards.

I guess it will never stop. If I called him a tard back, I would at least get a warning...

all those who brought the iphone are upgraders get a clue. show me numbers of new users, last a saw iphone only broung in 250 to 300hthousand per new release but that was 3yrs ago what is it now.

77% are upgrade

Does the average iPhone user even know how much ram the iPhone has? What processor? Like .8%?

Why does it matter if they know, why does it matter what is. The funniest thing on the Internet is watching people try and make arguments based on specs they really don't understand. This is we end up with stuff like "more GHZ good". Here in 2011, more GHz is often very bad. More RAM has a better chance of being good, but it might not be a big enough improvement to offset the other design compromises it would force.

"Bigger screen better", this one has been shredded enough lately. I will only say this is the silliest argument ever made in a mobile phone discussion. When will it stop. By the middle of next year Android makers will be rushing to 5.5" phones. People in oversized cargo pants will be showing us how it fits in their pocket (like OJs glove).

People who don't know the specs at all will make as an informed a decision as the people who think they understand what the specs mean. In fact, they will often make more informed choices because they will take the time to test the device and confer with other users.

i dont have inside info, but i am interested in knowing how many iphones are sold to those who never had one before.

apple has loyal iphone user who will upgrade when a new iphone comes out thats a given, i just want to now how many new user comes to apple for the iphone.

Since people are likely upgrading at a pace of less than every 2 years and YOY growth is well,over 100%, the number of née users is massive. Keep in mind iPHone is still be introduced on new carriers in new markets all the time. your 77% upgrade number was anecdotal, unscientific, and based on a biased small sample. Its only relevance is telling you what the people they talked to said. It has no statistical significance at all.
 
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Happy Day for My wife and I

Well we finally were able to order iPhones with Sprint.

One White 32G for the Mrs.
One Black 32G for me.

Sprint still has some. The order claims we will have both on Friday or Saturday.

I am SO excited to rid of the HTC EVO (pronounced Evil). I am beside myself.
 
the article is old but its the closes to finding the answer to my ? what do you think is the % of new user that brought or pre order the new iphone 4s,

About as close to finding the answer to that question as tossing chicken bones into the air will give you the weather forecast.
 
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