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Will Netflix be able to be streamed from a Mac to the Vision Pro or are they going to block it like they do with casting to an Apple TV? I think it’s Netflix anyway. Could be Hulu, but one of them block Airplay.
 
I'm rather confident that both Netflix and Hulu will work fine on the AVP just as they do on the iPhone and the iPad. And even if they haven't checked the box on the app yet to port it to Vision OS, you can still pull them up in Safari and watch them that way. I don't think Apple intended to list every single option with this small press release.
 
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After all the fuss...

It's basically just going to be an expensive content viewer, isn't it?
For many, yes. But the ability to make it an immersive experience might prove valuable.

Many people watch content on their large TV’s while constantly surfing on second screen in their hands. If AVP can get you to focus only on the main event, forgetting about everything else, that’s a good thing. Sort of like going to the movie theater and having your phone off.
 
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After all the fuss...

It's basically just going to be an expensive content viewer, isn't it?

Or maybe this is just a simple topic to try to convey some merits of a brand new product to the masses? It's much easier to spin "hey you can watch super-sized video on this" than explaining VR & AR experiences and applications using them, when the masses have probably either never seen them or only seen them slicing bricks flying at them in half in a game.

Or think of it like this: is iPhone just "an iPod + phone + internet browser" as it was billed at launch? I wonder if anyone even thinks of their iPhone as "an iPod" anymore at all. There's probably a segment of young, extreme iPhone users right now that may not even know what an iPod is. And yet, at the beginning, Apple opted to push a very simple message as if about a third of this new product called iPhone is an iPod.
 
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Or maybe this is just a simple topic to try to convey some merits of a brand new product to the masses? It's much easier to spin "hey you can watch super-sized video on this" than explaining VR & AR experiences and applications using them when the masses have probably either never seen them or only seen them slicing bricks flying at them in half.

Or think of it like this: is iPhone just "an iPod + phone + internet browser" as it was billed at launch?

If you say so
 
I have looked at XReal quite seriously and also Meta's Quest offerings... but not ASUS. What do all of those "much cheaper" ones have in common? Lower resolution.
The AR glasses probably have better pixels per degree than the Vision Pro. They may even be better for mirroring a display from a source like a Mac, since they can render it pixel-perfect.

The major issues with using it for video are that the virtual screen is either stuck to your face (it moves with your face instead of being anchored to a real-world location), or if they use some kind of real-world anchoring, the FOV is much too low.
 
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...wouldn't that same user just pop open a window on the side in virtual space?

The ability to make things "room scale" in the headset would seem like it would lead to even more things up and going at once, no?
I’m only speculating, but I believe that the [awkwardness] inability to hold and interact/fidget with an iPhone, iPad, MacBook will make the “second screen” less appealing, so maybe we’ll learn to stop trying to multitask during entertainment.
 
You mean like:

Final Cut Pro
Logic Pro
Pages
Numbers
Keynote
Freeform
Safari
Mail
Notes
WhatsApp
...and thousands of other apps that are already available for Vision OS?
I know all of these exist, I am looking forward to what app developers have created over the past 6 months or so, haven't heard a word about that ...
there is so much potential for the VPro and I really look forward to a demo at an Apple Store, but it will take more than media consumption to get me to buy one
 
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The AR glasses probably have better pixels per degree than the Vision Pro. They may even be better for mirroring a display from a source like a Mac, since they can render it pixel-perfect.

The major issues with using it for video are that the virtual screen is either stuck to your face (it moves with your face instead of being anchored to a real-world location), or if they use some kind of real-world anchoring, the FOV is much too low.

I don't know. We'll see. Soon all of our guesses can be filtered & evolved by the reality of demo'ing them and seeing with our own eyes. I don't know what to expect in any certainty way. I continue to simply assume 4K vs. 1080p in cheaper alternatives will be noticeably superior in head-to-head comparisons I'll conduct myself instead of being conducted in a very wide spectrum of commentator imaginations... from extremist pessimists to extremist optimists.

If it's un-noticable or even inferior, then hurray! Why spend $3500 when something else calling itself VR glasses/goggles can be had for a few hundred? Viewmaster 3D can still be had for < $30! We will all be able to find out via actual experience & demos in only a few more days now. The long winter of speculation & imagination of what these can and cannot do is about to be over. I look forward to settling all speculation for myself in the most tangible of ways: seeing this thing in action with my own eyes.
 
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I don't know. We'll see. Soon all of our guesses can be filtered & evolved by the reality of demo'ing them and seeing with our own eyes. I don't know what to expect in any certainty way. I continue to simply assume 4K vs. 1080p in cheaper alternatives will be noticeably superior in head-to-head comparisons I'll conduct myself instead of being conducted in a very wide spectrum of commentator imaginations... for extremist pessimists to extremist optimists.

If it's un-noticable or even inferior, then hurray! Why spend $3500 when something else calling itself VR glasses/goggles can be had for a few hundred? We will all be able to find out via actual experience & demos in only a few more days now. The long winter of speculation & imagination of what these can and cannot do is about to be over. I look forward to settling all speculation for myself in the most tangible of ways: seeing this thing in action with my own eyes.
yup, I'm right there with you, and maybe we are just seeing the initial stages of the "media blitz" right now starting with content consumption, so really hoping more news to come in the coming days
 
I am curious how the Vision Pro will handle 360 VR content because from my understanding, the content itself needs to be like 8K or even 12K to look good.

I have a relaxing app on my Quest 3 and the videos are supposedly 4K but most of them are AWFUL. Blurry mess and frame drops. YouTube 360 VR videos are mostly bad too. Reminds me of my first experience with 3D in the late 90s.

2D content on a huge virtual „IMAX“ screen looks good though!
 
yup, I'm right there with you, and maybe we are just seeing the initial stages of the "media blitz" right now starting with content consumption, so really hoping more news to come in the coming days

In spite of rumors to the contrary, I expect a launch event: invitations go out next week, event on Jan 29 or 30 or so. It seems like a product too important to Apple to not stir the consumer and media pots with an Apple event. There's 7 months of app development to (hopefully) show some dazzle beyond only floating iPad apps and a big Mac screen. I'll be shocked if this is a press-release-only rollout.

Third party app developers must have created some amazing stuff since WWDC. And Apple has had 7 more months to make their own offerings much better for this product. I would think a whole event could be picking the standout fruit of all of those efforts... and demoing it.
 
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I don't know. We'll see. Soon all of our guesses can be filtered & evolved by the reality of demo'ing them and seeing with our own eyes. I don't know what to expect in any certainty way. I continue to simply assume 4K vs. 1080p in cheaper alternatives will be noticeably superior in head-to-head comparisons I'll conduct myself instead of being conducted in a very wide spectrum of commentator imaginations... from extremist pessimists to extremist optimists.

If it's un-noticable or even inferior, then hurray! Why spend $3500 when something else calling itself VR glasses/goggles can be had for a few hundred? Viewmaster 3D can still be had for < $30! We will all be able to find out via actual experience & demos in only a few more days now. The long winter of speculation & imagination of what these can and cannot do is about to be over. I look forward to settling all speculation for myself in the most tangible of ways: seeing this thing in action with my own eyes.
I'm not saying that the AVP isn't a vastly superior product, just that PPD is similar to the AR glasses. It isn't just some uninformed speculation—it's simple math. The AR glasses have a horizontal FOV of less than 50, and a pixel width of 1920. The Vision Pro has screens less than 3840 pixels wide spread over an approximately 100⁰ horizontal FOV.

The Vision Pro would be a better product than a 4K, or even 8K version of the AR/smart glasses currently available, in my opinion.
 
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Stupid question since I’m too poor to buy one and haven’t been following closely:

Sound. Doesn’t look like you could put a serious set of over-ear cans the way the headset is designed. So it looks like APP, right? So you’ll get amazing visuals, but inferior sound. Is that correct?
 
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Stupid question since I’m to poor to buy one and haven’t been following closely:

Sound. Doesn’t look like you could put a serious set of over-ear cans the way the headset is designed. So it looks like APP, right? So you’ll get amazing visuals, but inferior sound. Is that correct?

This image from the other thread today...

Apple-Vision-Pro-Travel-Mode.jpg


...clearly shows a woman using AirPods for audio... so at least AirPod Pro seem very likely.

Can someone use full-on headphones like Max or Beats or similar? My guess is: where's there's a will, there's a way. Position them a little differently, maybe a custom cup, have the part that rolls over one's head lean back on that head a bit? TBD... SOON!
 
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Can’t wait for Messi’s face to pop up at me in a giant overlay window every time I open the TV app on Vision Pro.

Seriously, nobody else seems to be bothered by how intrusive the TV App has gotten. The last thing I want to do is subject myself to that in an immersive environment.

Maybe it won’t be that way at first but you know it’s coming.
 
i wasn’t going to buy one, but after finding that Tubi will be available at launch, I’m sold. I love cheesy movies. Now work on adding Shudder to the lineup.

Tom

edit: I ditched Netflix b/c I wasn’t finding enough that I like (last one that I binged was The Good Bandit from Columbia)
For me Redbull TV did it.

Drinking something that tastes like battery dropped in flat cola WHILE watching a channel dedicated to it? Yes plzzzz!
 
Here's my secret hope. I think Apple is going to use the Super Bowl to really launch the AVP. Note, Apple is the primary sponsor of the Halftime Show.

My hope is that prior to the game, they announce that the Super Bowl itself will be available to view in 3D, using cameras that are attached to the guide wires that sit over the game.

...and since I'll already have my headset. :)

I would like a constant SkyCam feed. I have a feeling I’d get sick pretty fast though with that thing zooming around.
 
I really wish these apple specific videos were available in a 360° format. I guess for now I will have to be satisfied with 180°.

This is the first I've heard about a new apple specific video format. I wonder if there will be commercially available cameras that can shoot in it?
 
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This image from the other thread today...

Apple-Vision-Pro-Travel-Mode.jpg


...clearly shows a woman using AirPods for audio... so at least AirPod Pro seem very likely.

Can someone use full-on headphones like Max or Beats or similar? My guess is: where's there's a will, there's a way. Position them a little differently, maybe a custom cup, have the part that rolls over one's head lean back on that head a bit? TBD... SOON!
That image is what made me think of this. I can’t fathom having something that would visually astound you, but you can only get in-ear buds to hear. That’s a huge problem. Imagine watching Godzilla tearing up Tokyo, but hearing it from buds. That would be a huge letdown.
 
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