you mean the iphone is better right? if that's what you're saying though - for business users (like myself), to take away my smartphone you're going to have to give me a way to check emails easily and respond to them easily, and without a keypad it might be hard (in terms of typing it)
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Apple Announces The iPhone
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you mean the iphone is better right? if that's what you're saying though - for business users (like myself), to take away my smartphone you're going to have to give me a way to check emails easily and respond to them easily, and without a keypad it might be hard (in terms of typing it)
Voila - 2nd app.
Just imagine the possibilities of using OS X on this phone - imagine the games you can play too!
Doh! Good point. Now just curious about GPS capabilities, if any.
Mitthrawnuruodo
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Yes, and sure the iPhone has it limitation i.e. not being able to compose fast email, but lets wait a few months before it is release
Cinch
Not really, at least not for me, anyway. I think the new iMacs are incredibly ugly, and I gave up on the mini when they put integrated graphics into it.
A Mac Pro may be in my future, but I'm not buying anything until Panther comes out. Heck, I couldn't even get a new iPod because it needs Tiger and I'm still running Leopard. I find it ironic that in order to get a new iPod I have to buy the newest version of OS X and Peecee users don't. 😕
But hey, it seems that Apple isn't all that interested in computers anymore anyway. Heck, they even took the word out of their name. 🙄
But really, I do like the phone. I just can't get all worked up over something that's not even going to see daylight for six months, that's all.
Stella
macrumors G3
Does the iPhone support it?
Unknown.
However, if it did then iPhone will be the easiest phone platform to develop for. That would be a major coup.
Nokia E series has a dashboard clone available for it - since it has a webkit based browser - so Apple - don't claim that one!!!
Apple have their strategy messed up - it should be released in Europe and Asia first, the u.s lastly - since Apple will sell much more in E and A.
Oh, Canada before the states too 🙂
iPhone runs OSX - well, probably a mobile OSX - not quite the same.
RodThePlod
macrumors 65816
The thing about it is that this is *not* the 6th generation iPod! It's an iPhone!!!
Apple have pre-announced this to get the necessary regulatory approvals as Steve mentioned in the keynote. When the iPhone ships in June, I'm guessing we will be treated to another media event which will announce shipping of the iPhone but also simultaenous shipping of the 6th gen iPod.
The 6th gen iPod will be the iPhone product without the phone (!). Safari, Mail and the other apps will still be there. This 6th gen iPod will have either 80 or 100GB drives and it will probably look physically identical to the iPhone we saw today.
The iPhone will *not* get bumped from 4 or 8GB - it's a phone after all!!! However, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple didn't make an option available to upgrade a 6th gen iPod to have a phone capability.
The 6th gen will inherit the new UI and do away with the click wheel. The click wheel would then be reserved for the non-multi-touch iPod devices such as the nano.
All in all, I think the line up of shuffle, nano, 6th gen iPod and iPhone will be totally awesome!!
gloss
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I seem to recall reading that it is GPS enabled, but I don't remember it from the keynote. Something like 'The phone knows where you are!'
Which is really sort of creepy.
What I lose in IM I gain in everything else I want. My Sidekick 3 will be on eBay in June...
Voila - 2nd app.
Just imagine the possibilities of using OS X on this phone - imagine the games you can play too!
So what... it says calendar.. there is no way to know what kind of functionality it has... is it like the iPod and you can SEE your calendar? What about entering appointments? SJ called this thing a phone... not a PDA, right? Hey I really hope it has Treo type functionality cuz w/o it I am sticking with my Treo.
balamw
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I agree, unknown, but the pieces fit all too well. If iPhone doesn't support Dashcode, why keep it under wraps for so long. Tiger's been out for a while now...
B
I haven't read all the posts here, they are too many!! But I get the sense (especially from the ratings) that al lot of people are not that happy with the iPhone. I'm watching the Keynote right now and the only thing I can say is WOOOW!!! I want this thing! I can't wait until June. It's an incredible device. They really reivented the phone in a way that only Apple can. I'm thinking about the rumor of the other day about Steve's excitement about this new device. Look at him when he's showing the iPhone's features. I've never seen him that excited. He's like a kid showing his new cool toy to his friends.
I'm thinking and the endless possibilities that will come with the iPhone. Think about developers and 3rd party partners. They will create awesome software for the phone because it's OS X, it's Cocoa, it's Core Animation!!
I also love the UI the and the multi-touch is simply amazing. Now with this new technologies think about where apple can go. As an Audio Engineer I'd love to use this touchscreen technology with Pro Tools. Moving the faders like on a real console, It would be incredible.
The only thing the was weird about this keynote is no iLife, no iWork, but the iPhone for me deserved all the attention today, it will be just like the mac back in 84 and the iPod in 01. Nokia and Motorola now seems really old technology to me!
I'm thinking and the endless possibilities that will come with the iPhone. Think about developers and 3rd party partners. They will create awesome software for the phone because it's OS X, it's Cocoa, it's Core Animation!!
I also love the UI the and the multi-touch is simply amazing. Now with this new technologies think about where apple can go. As an Audio Engineer I'd love to use this touchscreen technology with Pro Tools. Moving the faders like on a real console, It would be incredible.
The only thing the was weird about this keynote is no iLife, no iWork, but the iPhone for me deserved all the attention today, it will be just like the mac back in 84 and the iPod in 01. Nokia and Motorola now seems really old technology to me!
dante@sisna.com
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Then WHAT are you waiting for?
It sounds like you REALLY do not want to upgrade your box.
I mean seriously, I own, right now, 15 macs here in my studio. And this is not personal, but, any Mac in the previous two years -- even a Mini with integrated video would CRUSH your 1Ghz G4 -- and if you really want Tiger, you can get it for $110 -- it is worth every penny and will run great on your CURRENT computer -- then you can get your iPod.
By the way, Panther came out two and a half years ago -- I think (hope) you mean Leopard.
It sounds like you REALLY do not want to upgrade your box.
I mean seriously, I own, right now, 15 macs here in my studio. And this is not personal, but, any Mac in the previous two years -- even a Mini with integrated video would CRUSH your 1Ghz G4 -- and if you really want Tiger, you can get it for $110 -- it is worth every penny and will run great on your CURRENT computer -- then you can get your iPod.
By the way, Panther came out two and a half years ago -- I think (hope) you mean Leopard.
FF_productions
macrumors 68030
Cingular?!!
Aw man, I really wish it was available for all of them..
I could care less for the price tag, it is an incredible device. This iPhone is over and beyond the expectations I had laid out for it.
Aw man, I really wish it was available for all of them..
I could care less for the price tag, it is an incredible device. This iPhone is over and beyond the expectations I had laid out for it.
dante@sisna.com
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Enjoy your Treo -- Mine is Junk
My Treo is going in the trash, where I feel it belongs in favor of this phone.
There is no comparison.
My Treo is going in the trash, where I feel it belongs in favor of this phone.
There is no comparison.
Illuminous
This interface looks a lot like what "Illuminous" was described as.
I wonder if Leopard will take on this look, or if that rumour was just misguided and the UI they were developing was for iPhone.
Watching the videos again, I see the top bar (with clock, signal, etc.) changes from black to white at different times. That's peculiar.
This interface looks a lot like what "Illuminous" was described as.
I wonder if Leopard will take on this look, or if that rumour was just misguided and the UI they were developing was for iPhone.
Watching the videos again, I see the top bar (with clock, signal, etc.) changes from black to white at different times. That's peculiar.
parrothead
macrumors 6502a
I wonder what the chances are of getting the phone without the contract and then getting the unlock code so I can use it with T-Mobile.
Hmmm, let's see, you can enter text and email, and has a virtual keyboard so, yeah, I bet you can enter data into calender cells.
Zooooon
Dont worry about who is the service providor. Just look at the Zune sites and wonder that they are discussing old motorbikes rather than face the iPhone full force.
http://www.zunescene.com/forums/index.php?topic=8390.0
cheers
Dunk
Dont worry about who is the service providor. Just look at the Zune sites and wonder that they are discussing old motorbikes rather than face the iPhone full force.
http://www.zunescene.com/forums/index.php?topic=8390.0
cheers
Dunk
My Cingular experience
I had Sprint for a few years and it worked OK, but I had to go outside my house to make calls since I only got 1 bar. I borrowed a friend's Cingular phone and actually got no service at all in my house. Borrowed a Verizon phone and got 5 bars.
Bottom line is even if this phone was free, there is NO WAY I could or would switch from Verizon...it has worked everywhere I've been, including the mountains of Wyoming, in the woods, in my house in Florida, etc.
A friend of mine is actually an engineer with Cingular and even he admits the problems. And Cingular service is about $20 more per month than either Sprint or Verizon.
I guess I will have to wait until this gets sorted out, which sucks.
I had Sprint for a few years and it worked OK, but I had to go outside my house to make calls since I only got 1 bar. I borrowed a friend's Cingular phone and actually got no service at all in my house. Borrowed a Verizon phone and got 5 bars.
Bottom line is even if this phone was free, there is NO WAY I could or would switch from Verizon...it has worked everywhere I've been, including the mountains of Wyoming, in the woods, in my house in Florida, etc.
A friend of mine is actually an engineer with Cingular and even he admits the problems. And Cingular service is about $20 more per month than either Sprint or Verizon.
I guess I will have to wait until this gets sorted out, which sucks.
not excited
I have several gripes with this.
1) an announcement of a product that won't be available for five months is vaporware. Steve could have had one Tricorder built to show on stage. It's TOO FAR OUT, and every product requires FCC approval, his excuse is lame, and I suspect that they are way, way, late in development. For pure marketing strategy (and in opposition to all previous policy) they decided to put out the idea at what they thought was an opportune time, and I cannot be too excited about any vaporware, even if Steve hypes it. He has reduced his personal credibility in my view.
2) they better have more data capability with the Cingular network than I am getting with my Treo 650 in Dallas (like about dialup rate) or web browsing will not impress anyone.
I have several gripes with this.
1) an announcement of a product that won't be available for five months is vaporware. Steve could have had one Tricorder built to show on stage. It's TOO FAR OUT, and every product requires FCC approval, his excuse is lame, and I suspect that they are way, way, late in development. For pure marketing strategy (and in opposition to all previous policy) they decided to put out the idea at what they thought was an opportune time, and I cannot be too excited about any vaporware, even if Steve hypes it. He has reduced his personal credibility in my view.
2) they better have more data capability with the Cingular network than I am getting with my Treo 650 in Dallas (like about dialup rate) or web browsing will not impress anyone.
I don't think the 1st gen. will have 3g as surprise update as that would need FCC approval.
I wonder however why they did not put 801.11n into the iphone. Then when at home or work you could wirelessly stream Video/music. Then the 8GB flash memory would only be for when you travel and away from your computer.
Imagine the possibilities of places like starbucks/malls setting up 801.11n airport express and streaming free music/videos with the inclusion of ads to pay for them and provide hotspots. This would truly be the killer app as the .n spec can handle the bandwidth/users.
I can't wait to get it even though cingular service is not as good as verizon here.
I am not getting the AppleTV however unless there is a very easy way to stream dvix or .ts files. It's worthless to me otherwise.
I wonder however why they did not put 801.11n into the iphone. Then when at home or work you could wirelessly stream Video/music. Then the 8GB flash memory would only be for when you travel and away from your computer.
Imagine the possibilities of places like starbucks/malls setting up 801.11n airport express and streaming free music/videos with the inclusion of ads to pay for them and provide hotspots. This would truly be the killer app as the .n spec can handle the bandwidth/users.
I can't wait to get it even though cingular service is not as good as verizon here.
I am not getting the AppleTV however unless there is a very easy way to stream dvix or .ts files. It's worthless to me otherwise.
It funny that they didnt event mention that, tho... You would think they would be all over this thing as a PDA killer... Its just too soon to say what this thing will have... BTW.. what about tasks? What about tasks as introduced by SJ at WWDC which is coming in email as part of Leopard....
This phone looks phenomenal, but I have some questions:
1) Where does the SIM Card go and how do you get to it?
2) Is the battery user-replaceable or even replaceable, for that matter?
3) Is the $499 price with a two year contract, and are you subject to data fees?
4) How does data entry work?
1) Where does the SIM Card go and how do you get to it?
2) Is the battery user-replaceable or even replaceable, for that matter?
3) Is the $499 price with a two year contract, and are you subject to data fees?
4) How does data entry work?
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