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Show me a press release of Apple saying that & maybe I'll listen.

I'm not about to belive reposted heresay from someones uncles cousins brother on some random internet form called "Mac Rumors".

no, i agree with you actually. just that people keep telling me it's unlocked and granted, there was some speculation back in Oct/Nov that it would be, it doesn't seem to be the case now.
 
Do you really think the times are the same as when the Newton was released? When it was released did you see this level of media interest? The time is as ripe as ever for Apple to release this.

Snakes on a plane got tons of media hype too- nobody saw it.

Whether you think you can do the same with a Dooberry is neither here nor there. The public will look at this and want one just for the coolness. The fact that it's expensive doesn't matter. The mobile phone, now in our culture today, is a status symbol that is as strong as the car once was. People pay for labels and Apple is just that, a label.

The public thinks ferraris are cool too- What percent of the population
owns one?
 
I am with you

The newton was a good product too- didnt prevent it from
sinking like a rock.

I agree (not with all your points) with you. I think the iPhone wont fail but will not be a global phenomenon and apple has missed out on a huge (and by huge I mean "swear word here"ing massive) opportunity sales and image wise by not just releasing a pure phone with all features of iphone but only a phone and another device portable media center with internet and wifi. Look at archos I will not buy one (to big and not clever) but they are gaining market share for that class of product all the time. Apple has the ability and inovation to bankrupt that company for sure. and I am sure they will with the next iPod but I do think they have made a mistake with the iphone. I will say this again I think it is a brilliant product in its UI, Functionality and looks but it is to much in 1
 
The newton was a good product too- didnt prevent it from
sinking like a rock.



I've already seen that video.

I'm familiar w/ multitouch- in fact I'm using 2 finger scrolling
on my Macbook as I type this. NOT revolutionary.

Not on the macbook it isn't. I agree. It's just nice on there.


Anyway dude I'd love to keep reacting to your pathetic attempts at trolling but y'know this isn't the ROKR (with trad mobile phone style interface, y'know like your 90% functionality Blackberry) this is something very very different. It will succeed despite some of the shortcomings that put me and a few others off.
 
No, but its failure would likely mean the end of Apple's
Cell phone endeavors, & be a huge hit to investor confidence,
just like Sony's exploding battery & PS3 production issues
have been a huge hit to their reputation.

Quite possibly.. one from which they will likely recover as long as SJ is at the head of the boat.

I don't see this as a failed product out the door. There are lots of gadget-o-philes out there with cash to burn. My thought is that the iPhone will be slow to grow into the market, much like the iPod was. Will it dominate? Not likely, but it will exist. Will it be a smash hit? Not likely, but it will sell enough to keep it afloat for a while.

The real issue is this... where to go from the iPhone? Seems like every day there's a new phone with X bells and Y whistles. Has Apple attempted to smash as much XY into their iPhone right from the start? What ideas do they have to make it better? I don't think larger flash drives will suffice. And I worry about all the XY.. seems like a lot of bleeding edge stuff to break and be a repair headache.
 
Not on the macbook it isn't. I agree. It's just nice on there.


Anyway dude I'd love to keep reacting to your pathetic attempts at trolling but y'know this isn't the ROKR (with trad mobile phone style interface, y'know like your 90% functionality Blackberry) this is something very very different. It will succeed despite some of the shortcomings that put me and a few others off.

Then we'll agree to disagree.

You think the public is ready for this,
I think its too much too soon.

Point taken

Please, I like to think we're all above the childish "I'm better than you" arguments. There's no need to "prove something", this isn't grade school... :cool:

That being said, thanks for the laugh! :p ;)

Was it any more childish than his n00b" remark?

Quite possibly.. one from which they will likely recover as long as SJ is at the head of the boat.

Rumors are he may be stepping down as CEO
 
The public thinks ferraris are cool too- What percent of the population
owns one?

I really don't think that's a fair comparison..

The average american family's annual income is $70,700 (2004), slightly under half the price of a single ferrari? Maybe if you could live in one more people would buy them.

Rumors are he may be stepping down as CEO

Rumors are that he's taking a sabbatical, I've not heard "stepping down".
 
Stepping down Noooo

I heard he was taking leave of absence to deal with a legal matter and spend some time with his family
 
I know more about technology & business than you could ever wish to learn- dont pull this n00b Bull with me.
It would seem that no one knows as much about it as you do, given the stock adjustments, the statements from other manufacturers, the public response, and the internal rumblings at at least one cell phone manufacturer.

I've found that people who truly know more about a given subject tend not to use phrases like "I know more about x that you could ever hope to learn." Of course, you said "wish", but still. Whether or not you think this phone should sell or is innovative or is too expensive is irrelevant. It will sell like hotcakes, and it will rock the current cell phone manufacturers to the core.
 
Earlier:

So, you believe the rumors now? :confused:

Credible media reported the leave of abscence aka stepping down.

Maybe iPhone is Steves last hurrah w/ apple? I mean hes not gonna
be CEO forever

Whether or not you think this phone should sell or is innovative or is too expensive is irrelevant. It will sell like hotcakes, and it will rock the current cell phone manufacturers to the core.

Save your breath for people who are on the fence. I & many others have
already gone on record saying they will not buy it.

Will you be the 1st on line to purchase one?

How is cingular coverage in Andover?
 
But But But

But without Steve Jobs who would Bill Gates have to copy. I know Microsoft developers are already copying Mac OS X and beyond but did anyone see Bill Gates during his Keynote. Oh My God I think he has a video of Steve Jobs and practises every morning, His Body Language and even the way he held his remote was straight out of "Being Steve Jobs For Dummies" Book
 
Some people seem to be upset about the fact that you have to sign a 2 year contract to get the phone. It doesn't seem that bad to me.

I mean, you'll want cell-phone service for your iPhone won't you?

pfff.
 
Was it any more childish than his n00b" remark?

He made an incorrect assumption and jumped to a false conclusion. He shouldn't have made that statement without confirming that what he was saying was accurate. So in this respect, yes, he was in error.

However this is slightly different than your comment. I could elaborate further however I believe that jsw summed up my thoughts adequately. :cool:

All I'm saying is that everyone should play nice here. It is possible to carry on a civilized and healthy debate on a topic with differing viewpoints without having to resort to immature tactics such as getting personal, calling people names (such as "n00b"), etc. That's all. Carry on, back on topic... :cool:
 
Save your breath for people who are on the fence. I & many others have
already gone on record saying they will not buy it.

Will you be the 1st on line to purchase one?
Obviously, probably not - because with so many people queued up to buy one, I can't believe I'd be so lucky.

I'm not trying to convince you - whose only posts are in this single thread and who is at risk of being banned as a troll - to buy an iPhone. Clearly, you don't want one. I'm merely pointing out that it will outsell any other phone at that price point, and that people who last week would never have considered spending that much on a phone are now going to do so as soon as they're released.
 
I am pretty confused right now... :confused:

Some are saying that Apple will offer the iPhone unlocked for a higher price. If this ends up being true, I will pop in my T-Mobile SIM Card.

My question is about EDGE. Do I pay some sort of data plan through T-Mobile? How do I get access to EDGE?
 
Long Time Then

No, Steve said as-long as the company and board want him he's going to carry on working at apple

Cool If thats confirmed thats a good thing, He will be therre for a very long time. Thanks for that. I love the rumors but love the truth more.
 
I am pretty confused right now... :confused:

Some are saying that Apple will offer the iPhone unlocked for a higher price. If this ends up being true, I will pop in my T-Mobile SIM Card.

My question is about EDGE. Do I pay some sort of data plan through T-Mobile? How do I get access to EDGE?

Well, I may just say that, as soon as it is available in CH, the iPhone is bought and my SIM is ready...this is just revolutionary, nothing less. Even if it cost 1000 bucks people should buy it in droves...damn amazing.
 
Hope the iPhone has...

My hope is that this phone-pod has voice recognition technology and Mac OS X Automator.

Can you imagine the possiblities? :eek: :eek: :eek: :D :cool:
 
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