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Still relating to data transfer, the device can operate as just a file server, without connecting you to the internet or joining another existing network if set up properly;

Wrong. Many people cannot even get basic Airport Disk functionality from this unit. My parents have a really simple configuration: MacBook wirelessly connected to Airport Extreme which is connected to a USB external hard drive, and the hard drive does not remain mounted.

Time machine support would be nice, but they need to get the basic Airport Disk functionality working reliably first. Look at the product page - they are STILL advertising that it can be used for Airport Disk. That specification has not changed, yet it doesn't work (for many people, 16,000 people have looked at one thread on the Apple forums discussing this issue).
 
Time capsule quetion

I am doing some research before buying a macbook 250gb hd 4gb ram and was curious if i shold go for the 500gb model of time capsule or the 1tb for convience or will i never need that much space?
I plan on backing up music and video files along with a large amount of word documents
again im new to macs and was hoping for some feedback
 
Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.

Obviously Time Machine wireless backups can be done....Time Capsule proves it.

This isn't released for 2 weeks. Patience people....

It has a built in airport extreme. Apple isn't stupid enough to expect people with existing AEBS to junk them simply to get this functionality. So there is nothing to lose by releasing the update to the AEBS firmware, or 10.5.2 to solve the problem. They won't lose sales...

But, and this is only a theory mind you, by pulling the functionality in Leopard knowing full well that Time Capsule was coming, they have probably held a few people off buying the airport extreme and another vendors hard drive.

So now, anyone who wants an airport extreme would be mad not to buy a time capsule instead and Apple make a bit more profit off of the premium for the hard drive.

As long as there really isn't a fundamental problem with external USB drives being used versus some sort of internal SATA link then I would be very surprised if the AEBS + external USB with Time Machine never arrives.

Hmmm..... Nice argument and, as someone who bought a MacBook, AEBS(n) and 750GB Iomega MiniMax drive (partly to store music and video but also in hope of a future firmware/software fix to enable Time Machine with AirDisk) shortly after Leopard came out, I'd like to believe Apple will release such a fix, but I'm not convinced they will.

I reckon Apple's aim has always been to enable wireless backup, hence why it was included in the early Leopard specs, and they initially thought they could do this via an AirPort Extreme with USB AirDisk but then found they couldn't. I'm assuming it's the USB connection between AEBS and the hard disk that has proved the problem, as their solution is to launch a device which integrates an AEBS directly with a hard disk.

They had to pull the feature from Leopard but, not wanting to abandon it completely, they've resorted to a hardware solution instead. Time Capsule is actually a pretty simple bit of kit, no great engineering advances needed, so I imagine it was only devised at a late stage once Apple realised they couldn't get the AEBS/AirDisk solution working.

If Apple could have achieved wireless Time Machine backup with a firmware/software update for AE and Leopard, I can't see why they would have bothered creating Time Capsule. To try and steal market share from hard drive makers?! Sure, it provides a neat all-in-one solution but I don't think that's enough of a justification. Sounds like a hardware solution to a software problem they haven't (and maybe won't) be able to solve. Which means no firmware/software fix for AEBS/AirDisk and will leave me to decide whether it's worth upgrading to TC if I want wireless Time Machine...

Atzan
 
February ship date seems pretty normal

What if the wireless Time Machine corruption problems in Leopard are the reason the device is delayed until February? Did you notice the part where the device isn't released until February? Can you think of any other reason why it would be delayed past the keynote?

I can think of a reason... Last year's new introductions apple TV AND the AEBS were both introduced at Macworld 2007 in January and were BOTH available for pre-order immediately following the keynote and BOTH stated ships in February.
 
Yeah whatever, we all can do that, but the problem that Apple has not resolved is the reliable functionality of mounting a USB hard drive to ther AEBS... instead they resolve the problem with more crap to buy, and not a mention of a possible update to fix the problem which has been around since Leopard came out and Apple removed the Airport Disk Utility. :mad:
Apple can't control how other companies design and build their drives. I have used several drives with my AEBS and have had problems with one particular drive...although the problems are very minor. Can't blame Apple for that.
I have a very sophisticated setup and although not perfect, the AEBS is the best router out there for my complex household, hands down!
Now I'll grab a Time Capsule (silly name) and use my AEBS as an extender in my upstairs editing room.
 
Thing is, Apple were obviously right to pull Time Machine support as Airdisk isn't reliable at the moment for whatever reason. Its working fine for some people but many others can't even get basic Airdisk functionality working.

Maybe by having control over the disk itself (as well as what model of disk is used) and eliminating USB from the equation, they've managed to get it working without any problems?
 
Thing is, Apple were obviously right to pull Time Machine support as Airdisk isn't reliable at the moment for whatever reason. Its working fine for some people but many others can't even get basic Airdisk functionality working.

Maybe by having control over the disk itself (as well as what model of disk is used) and eliminating USB from the equation, they've managed to get it working without any problems?

USB isn't eliminated... You can plug in an external disk and do TM backups to it. As some were saying earlier.
 
USB isn't eliminated... You can plug in an external disk and do TM backups to it. As some were saying earlier.

So TM backup up to Airdisk is officially supported with release of Time Capsule? Sorry, I never realised that.
 
So TM backup up to Airdisk is officially supported with release of Time Capsule? Sorry, I never realised that.

Well the whole Air Disk thing remains to be seen. That is why some are upset with Apple. If it works for TC and not for AD.

I myself am unsure of it what I have read is true one way or another.
 
Well the whole Air Disk thing remains to be seen. That is why some are upset with Apple. If it works for TC and not for AD.

I myself am unsure of it what I have read is true one way or another.

I reinstalled Leopard last night on a backup computer, just to see how well restoring from a TM backup works. Interestingly, when you get to the option of choosing a restore volume, the installer says something like " choose a Time machine volume from external drive or Airdisk".

I didn't catch this before, but I was looking for it this time. I guess when they took AEBS/airdisk support out of the GM the forgot to modify the installer.
 
Well the whole Air Disk thing remains to be seen. That is why some are upset with Apple. If it works for TC and not for AD.

I myself am unsure of it what I have read is true one way or another.

That's really what I was getting at. If it works for TC, that might be due to the fact its a standard disk and/or isn't connecting by USB.

But yes, they need to sort out Airdisk regardless.
 

Just an article announcing it's introduction with a dash of speculation, and half the product names are wrong anyway, confusing Expresses with Extremes and what-not. Incredibly badly written.

This seems to be a very cool gadget that i probably will need to have.. but not right now...:apple::apple:

Your getting a server anyway, so there'll be no need. And I don't think you need a MacBook Air, per your sig.
 
Anyone know yet if you can replace the HDD in Time Capsule yourself?

I'm thinking just in the case that when the Time Capsule's warranty time frame runs out and the HDD dies, what do you do then? My APE is YEARS old and if it had an HDD inside that died I would like to be able to replace it with a new SATA drive to keep it FULLY functioning.

Right now I have a cheap enclosure from Best Buy housing my original Power Mac G5's HDD and using that for Time Machine wonderfully, but am considering picking up Time Capsule so my laptops can back up too in the house.
 
Anyone know yet if you can replace the HDD in Time Capsule yourself?

I'm thinking just in the case that when the Time Capsule's warranty time frame runs out and the HDD dies, what do you do then? My APE is YEARS old and if it had an HDD inside that died I would like to be able to replace it with a new SATA drive to keep it FULLY functioning.

Right now I have a cheap enclosure from Best Buy housing my original Power Mac G5's HDD and using that for Time Machine wonderfully, but am considering picking up Time Capsule so my laptops can back up too in the house.
TM can backup to any shared drive on any Mac running Leopard. If you have a wireless network now then the laptops can backup to your current TM disk (assuming there is room, of course).
 
i dont suppose that time capsule has any way to play music on my stereo? that'd be the last function missing from their so-called all in one solution.
 
External Ethernet Hard Drive

Anyone know if you can connect and fully use an external ethernet hard drive to one of the three gigabit ethernet ports in Time Capsule (or AEBS)?

That would be better than splitting the usb port with a hub. And if you can, I wonder it TM will work that way?

And if not, what do people normally use the three ports for? Just a wired router?
 
And if not, what do people normally use the three ports for? Just a wired router?

If I have a wireless issue I can connect to the AEBS directly and sort it out, but most of the time I don't use those ports.

From your experience does this technique work well? I'm about to try this myself. does browsing back in time work as smoothly as you would expect or atleast with an acceptable amount of lag? Are you able to recover data from it without any problems?

Originally it was a little jerky, but recently it's been a lot smoother. Basically you press the Time Machine button and it takes a little longer to open the image but it then works quite well when your in TM.

I've pulled back smaller files like keychains on occasion, however I haven't had a need to pull anything major back, so wouldn't know about corrupted files, I haven't found any yet, and hope not to of course.

Also, don't know if you've tried this, but at a later time if i unplug the USB drive from the AEBS and hook it up straight to the computer, does TM recognize it as being part of the previous backup and just append to it or will it start backing up from scratch all over again?

I haven't connected it back up to my computer for a while actually, and I probably shout to make sure the disk doesn't have any errors or anything, so I don't know if it's recognise it as being the same disk. If it did then I'd imagine it'd just continue the incremental backups. If it didn't realise it was the same disk it shouldn't start from scratch, as TM is configured to work with the disc you have set it up with. It doesn't just pick a new one at random.

So I don't know if it'd recognise it as the disc, but it shouldn't cause any problems as I shut down my MacBook every day, effectively disconnecting from the disc and occasionally I have turned off or restarted the base station with no issues in reconnecting to the disc.

Other users have had more problems I acknowledge, but I've been pretty lucky thus far I guess.
 
Also, don't know if you've tried this, but at a later time if i unplug the USB drive from the AEBS and hook it up straight to the computer, does TM recognize it as being part of the previous backup and just append to it or will it start backing up from scratch all over again?

Unfortunately I doubt it. I have 2 mac minis and a macbook pro in my house. My USB drive is attached to one of the minis and it backs up to it. The drive is also shared, and the other mini and the MBP both back up to it over the network.

The two that back up over the network, create sparse bundle images (special type of disk image file) on the drive. As far as the USB drive is concerned there is one file on it for the entire machine (2 in total, one for each machine I'm backing up remotely.)

The remote machine mount that disk image over the network and then back up to it.

HOWEVER, the machine that is backing up to it locally, has a full file system on the USB drive. I originally backed up my macbook pro to the drive directly, expecting the behaviour you suggest. But when I changed it to use the network share, it backed everything up again, into the disk image.

So while I haven't tried going from network back to local disk, my instinct says it won't work, based on my experience going the other way.

NOTE: This was all done with 10.5.0. Might have changed with .1 or .2 (soon) I guess.

be well

t
 
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