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I think I'll hold out and see what next year's iPad model has in store, cause there isn't anything really compelling for me to want to buy one yet.

Or wait till they at least have iPhone OS 4 running on it. Anyways, I'm in no rush to buy one yet.
 
Seriously, is the lack of flash really that big of a deal? So you can't see some videos in a particular website. Big deal. Any time that has happened to me, I just got to YouTube and invariably i can find the video in about two seconds. Not having flash is such a non-issue. It seems to be more of a rallying cry for all the apple haters out there.
But you have to use the YouTube mobile app instead of going to the actual website. And for a product that was marketed as the "the best way to experience the internet", I'd be kinda upset that you're limited in using websites.
 
The game could be completely different if Apple opened their platforms to third parties.
But who's to say that should be the goal? Apple knows it could carve a giant chunk of the market out if it wanted to with a few simple moves.
But they don't, so eventually they will go back to their niche and leave the lion share of the market to somebody else who is willing to play well with others. This time it's going to be Google.
That's not a mistake or an oversight; that's exactly where they want to be. Apple intentionally and regularly takes steps that cap their expansion. That's their choice, and the result leaves plenty of opportunities for competitors to fill untapped markets. Android is a perfect example of that.

Opening the OS and relaxing the developer rules would have stopped Android in its tracks. You can't say they didn't know what they were doing when they decided not to. It's like saying a craft brewer failed because they missed an opportunity to become Coors.
 
1m and 2 have happened rapidly. Who wants to guess when we will see 3, 4, 5, and 6m?

Rocketman

Hey Rocket.

For me thats hard to answer because I don't know how fast they can produce them. I'd be willing to bet that by adding additional countries they can sell 6m as fast as they can make them. I think they can easily sale 10m this year as long as they can produce them. All they have to do is keep adding countries to the mix. Once it's out in all target countries, it will be time for 2ndGen and the numbers will continue to climb.
 
Hello all,

I don't post many messages but I read this forum a lot. I don't understand all the hatred towards the iPad.

I got mine on Friday and although its only been a few days I think its a fabulous product. Unlike many reviewers, I never seen it as being a replacement for a laptop, or as just a "big ipod touch". I seen it as a new device, one that I don't NEED, but would enjoy owning. So far that has been the case.
I love browsing the web from my couch or bed without having to balance a laptop. I love how gorgeous the screen is. I love showing my family photos I took off my nephews birthday. I love the fact that today I watched a half hour tv show and the battery dropped by 2%! I could go on but I will leave it with - I love it.

I don't know how much I will be using it in six months time - more than so far or less, who knows. But I can say at the moment I am very impressed.
I am not an apple fanboy (or girl for that matter). I am on my second mac, and yes I have an iPhone, and I was introduced to Apple products before they became so ingrained in the publics consciousness in recent years. However I still dislike a lot of things they do and I am happy to criticise them when I feel it is deserved. But with the iPad I just don't get the intense mocking and hatred from several people on this forum and elsewhere.
It may not be for you, but when did products have to be used or needed by everyone in order to be a 'good' product. Just because you don't like it, or don't want one does not make it sh*t.

For all those millions of people who buy laptops for the sole purpose of checking their mail, and browsing the web - and lets be honest thats probably most folk - then iPad is an excellent alternative to whats most of the time a heavy laptop. Yes if you use your laptop for more than that then iPad may not be for you. Fine. Buy a laptop. Thats what having a choice is all about. As far as I am aware Apple have not pulled their laptop line in favour of iPad so they obviously don't see it as a replacement product (yet) either.

The fact is I can only speak for myself and in the years using Apple products my computing time has not only been far more productive in terms of business but also much more enjoyable and less frustrating than the many, many years prior using Windows.

iPad is adding to that enjoyment and that means it is not sh*t.

Maybe its not your cup of tea, but stop being so arrogant to suggest that your negative opinion is correct and the only valid point of view. Not everybody wants / needs / requires / likes the same things and just because I like something you don't does not make me an idiot.

I am just someone who tried a product, liked it and bought it. It does what it says on the tin, and does it very well. All this nonsense about 'Apple fanboys' being the only ones buying it or saying its good is really patronising and not appreciated. Maybe you should educate yourself.....
 
Oh, and by the way... Comments from folks who don't have one, or had one for a week but took it back, are also less than magical.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]

I love this comment! I am so, as they say, OVER, people that offer their opinions on the iPad, and then it turns out that they don't even have one! So you based your review on.......apparent ignorance? I'm just saying. :D
 
The revolution/magic comes from incremental learning and improvements made over the last decade by Apple leading to this moment. In 2000, Apple knew how to make a good computer. They then iterated from there to OS X, to the iPod, iTunes, iTunes Music Store, iPhone, iPod touch, iPhone application store, and now the iPad, the iBook store and the iPad app store.

Competitors are trying to take their desktop/laptop experience and go straight to the tablet world, sans the incremental learning and improvements. This is a tough road, and it shows in the products they have produced so far, and the products they are attempting to bring to the market in the future. They may produce a worthy competitor someday, but it may be years off at this point.

The magic is that Apple is the only company in the world that can deliver on such a product, end user experience, price point, and polish today, due to their unique experience this past decade, and do it so overwhelmingly good, that 2 million people line up for it in the first 60 days. That's what we're celebrating today. Way to go Apple!


ding, ding, ding. ding!!! czachorski gets the gold star!


This is exactly what makes this moment so unique. As some in this thread have pointed out, companies have been making tablets for years. And they've all failed. Crappy UI/keyboards, slow response, horrible screens, and the list goes on. No one ever seemed to quite like using them. Anyone remember this year's "Invasion of the Tablets" at CES?! Endless ho-hum devices that all looked/functioned the same (hey! let's just slap a full blown non-touch desktop OS onto a touchscreen).


If any of these companies had the ability/taste/vision to create a tablet that worked seamlessly, was a joy to use, and inspired large amounts of people to pay cash for it....they all failed to do so. And they've had YEARS!


What became the iPad seems to have been a passion project that predates the iPhone. The iPhone being a result of that R&D.

Why these companies couldn't see where the iPhone OS was going to go and fire up their tablet copiers sooner? I don't know. But here we are, and in less than 60 days the iPad has gone off with the force of several megaton bombs!

So again, in all these years of trying to create tablets, if someone was able to produce something like the iPad (without copying another companies approach), why haven't they?


But you have to use the YouTube mobile app instead of going to the actual website. And for a product that was marketed as the "the best way to experience the internet", I'd be kinda upset that you're limited in using websites.


Think bigger. The internet is about more than websites now. And Apple's Youtube app is a better designed, focused, beautiful, clean portal into Youtube's content.
 
This is good news but... There is no competition yet. iPad hasn't won anything. Let's see how this market falls out in a year. One can't dismiss Android and HP/WebOS tablets just yet.

Heh heh. Yeah I heard that a lot about the iPod vs Zune too, and about a half-dozen other smart phones against the iPhone. Just more bugs on Apple's windshield.
 
Hahahaha! Truth and facts make no difference when it comes to people's blind fear and hatred of whatever they think Apple represents.

Yep. I really wonder what it is that makes some peoples heads explode about Apple.

I don't own any Apple (products or stock - wish I owned stock) and I am in the demographic (hardcore PC user/builder/Linux installer/programmer) that I usually see having fits about Apple.

While I haven't found an Apple product that has met my needs yet, I have always been able to see the engineering quality behind Apple products without my brain short circuiting.

The only thing I can see is some kind of extreme defensiveness requiring them to attack the product they can't choose because some vague preconceived notions(overpriced, inferior Apple product), and then attack the users when the product is successful (Apple sheep will buy anything).

I would like a tablet with USB ports/SD-slots and I would like the option to program for it on my PC, but I don't know when anything that does that will be available with nearly the quality (IPS screen, HW/SW integration) of the iPad. A year? Two? The iPad may not be perfect, but it looks much better than anything announced.

Apple deserves massive credit for getting a new product so right and sending all the potential competitor scrambling.

Hating on the iPad is just ridiculous. If it doesn't fit your needs, don't get one, no need to blow a gasket.
 
Great news. I was told that iPad was nothing more than a big iPhone, to which I replied that a swimming pool is nothing more than a big bath tub!

Let see what the Android has to offer, but they don't have the apps.

a large swimming pool actually has added functionality than a bathtub, the ipad does not offer that over an ipod. android has over 50k apps in their market, and probably just as many if not more than that outside. 2 million isn't anything to write home about the device just launched. dreamcast sold 10 million units, look at it.
 
Well done Steve and Apple...well deserved - thanks for such a great device - looking forward to how this plays out in the years to come - truly a magical product.

:p
 
Heh heh. Yeah I heard that a lot about the iPod vs Zune too, and about a half-dozen other smart phones against the iPhone. Just more bugs on Apple's windshield.

android is outselling the iphone, and with only half it's market share currently, beating it in ad revenue as well. if you don't think apple is scared to death of google or anyone else, you may want to reconsider facts. the reason apple has been suing everyone lately, and pissing adobe and google off on a regular basis is because they know a war is coming. a war they'll most likely lose, because they've lost it before. in the 90's apple did the same with with their desktop platform, closed it off, tried to control what people did with it, and microsoft nearly shut them down. the difference now is google is leaps and bounds a better product model than windows ever was, and their purpose is to actually destroy apple. it's clear that it's their goal, and they have a large amount of other big name companies that want to see it happen. nobody outside of apple likes apple and it's not because of competition. it's because apple makes it impossible to develop for their products unless you become a slave to their process. nobody else in the tech industry works like that and it's clear that people are getting sick of it. if you can tell me some way apple has innovated ANYTHING in the last few years i'm all ears, but really, they're just putting the same bland out-dated OS on new devices, and haven't actually put out a new product in over 4 years now.
 
Apple deserves massive credit for getting a new product so right and sending all the potential competitor scrambling.

Hating on the iPad is just ridiculous. If it doesn't fit your needs, don't get one, no need to blow a gasket.
Well said!!
 
Well done Steve and Apple...well deserved - thanks for such a great device - looking forward to how this plays out in the years to come - truly a magical product.

:p

what exactly is magical about it again? what's it do that an ipod doesn't?
 
^^^

Wow ladynred. You just joined Macrumors TODAY and all you've "contributed" is FUD about the iPad?:rolleyes:
 
Those articles are stupid.

The US trails because they have a massive infrastructure of hard wired lines that people have used for years while these other so-called "advanced" countries were living in mud huts. So with the advance of technology it becomes feasible for them to have phone service, and they end up with wireless every where.

Don't get me wrong, it is a good thing that a lot of these backwater countries went from literally no phone service at all to flushed out cell service, but for people to claim that they are more technologically advanced, or for them of all things claim these backwater countries that create none of the actual technology used in the process are some how more advanced is absolutely absurd.

We don't have the same cell penetration rates of other countries because we have a hard-wired infrastructure several layers deep that is probably more extensive than all the rest of the world combined.

exactly
thank you
 
...Anyways, it is funny how I point out what I would use an ipad for and how useless it is, and fanboys like you just resort to name calling because you know I am right and you can't debate. ;)

Comedy by a little 16 year old - haha. Naughty boy - go to your room and stop being so terribly irritable.
 
what exactly is magical about it again? what's it do that an ipod doesn't?

Ever tried swimming in a bathtub? :rolleyes:

It's pointless to debate with the trolls -- they're not looking to add anything to the discussion, only to stomp their feet and try and get attention. I'm sure their parents will be home soon and will be putting them to bed. :p
 
United.com works fine on my iPad

I thought that was part of the magical experience of using the ipad, being able to do things like plan a trip from your couch. So I guess planning a trip is something you can't do with an Ipad.

Small suggestion: check what you're posting before you hit "submit reply". United.com works just fine on my iPad.
 
what exactly is magical about it again? what's it do that an ipod doesn't?

As a lecturer and public speaker all around Asia i have all my course notes and lectures and reference material in one easy to hold back-lit device. So that is 'magical' for me. MyiPod could not do that, nor even my iPhone.

Ohh by the way (giggle) it does a whole lot more - than a mere iPod!! Visit an Apple store sometime and test the two devices side by side (giggle) :D
 
android is outselling the iphone, and with only half it's market share currently, beating it in ad revenue as well. if you don't think apple is scared to death of google or anyone else, you may want to reconsider facts. the reason apple has been suing everyone lately, and pissing adobe and google off on a regular basis is because they
Android is an OS, iPhone is hardware. Android is on phones being given away for free with contract by phone companies, iPhones are not.

Android is going to run into the same problem that many Apple wannabees have - lack of hardware compatibility, fragmented program based because of different capabilities/conformity/reliability of units its installed on.

Don't get me wrong - will love a strong competitor because it will make Apple improve their product sooner rather than later, but open sourcing and free wheeling developers to do anything they want will turn them into devices that are too inconsistent to fill the niche Apple is aiming for.
 
As a lecturer and public speaker all around Asia i have all my course notes and lectures and reference material in one easy to hold back-lit device. So that is 'magical' for me. MyiPod could not do that, nor even my iPhone.

Ohh by the way (giggle) it does a whole lot more - than a mere iPod!! Visit an Apple store sometime and test the two devices side by side (giggle) :D

The AC-7 DAW controller was worth the money alone. I'm a Pro Tools dude and a motorized controller like that would run around $1000. This things functions so well that I personally know a couple of audiogeeks who are now seriously considering iPads just for this app! So MAGICAL! :D :D :D

Plus, the research that I do for my other gig has been dramatically changed with the iAnnotate app. i used to have that on the iPod but it was useless because of the screen size. Now it's nothing short of MAGICAL! :D :D :D

Now we just need a troll-destroyer app!
 
That's it? I thought we covered that when we said *big* iPod Touch? May be I am starting to get it - the rest is left for people to make up - depending on my creativity to play games with my mind I can either find it revolutionary, magical, Saves-us-from-Flash, less-is-better, or find it to be just another useless shiny gadget.

If I was into some powerful stuff that alters my brain composition I would come out yelling - magical and revolutionary and can even convince myself that for more simplicity I need 4 of them - one for email, one for browser, one for iTunes and one for running an HTML5 site just to convince me Flash is not needed. Never have to think about which window to close, where to click and where the next app icon is.

Left to reality however it's just a shiny big iPod touch - nothing magical or revolutionary about it. That people buy it does not make it any more interesting than a big iPod touch. With enough clever marketing and advertising people will buy anything.

Awww... Try cleaning your room and taking out the trash without being told. Then maybe your mommie will get you one.
 
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