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Awww... Try cleaning your room and taking out the trash without being told. Then maybe your mommie will get you one.

While you are resorting to insults - if you promise your momma to take your medicine I can throw in a couple of iPads for you and momma for nothing in particular. Sounds good?
 
While you are resorting to insults - if you promise your momma to take your medicine I can throw in a couple of iPads for you and momma for nothing in particular. Sounds good?

Any reason to buy me more iPad's is acceptable to me. At any cost. *wink wink*
 
I brought my brand new iPad at my workplace today. Many "ooh!" and "haaa!" from people who are not Apple fanboys by any means, but particularly from one of my co-worker, a woman in her 40's.

She doesn't know much about technology, didn't even know what an iPad was before I told her about it last week. She doesn't even have an MP3 player nor a cellphone. She likes to play flash games on the internet, mostly through Facebook. Aside from that she uses the internet for light web browsing and getting her emails.

Well after demonstrating a few games on the iPad, as well as some other apps, the video playing capability, she decided to buy one, and she's really decided!

I told her that she wouldn't be able to play those Flash games she's used to play on Facebook. It didn't seem to matter to her, as I told her that there was thousands of games like these on the App store. I told her that she wouldn't be able to watch tv programs from a site like tou.tv (french Canadian Broadcasting Corp.) because they were in Flash, but also told her that they were gonna release an app eventually.

Despite these "annoyances", she still wants one.

While this is purely anecdotal, it might give you a hint of what might be happening all over the world as "normal" people try an iPad.
 
Yep. I really wonder what it is that makes some peoples heads explode about Apple.

I don't own any Apple (products or stock - wish I owned stock) and I am in the demographic (hardcore PC user/builder/Linux installer/programmer) that I usually see having fits about Apple.

While I haven't found an Apple product that has met my needs yet, I have always been able to see the engineering quality behind Apple products without my brain short circuiting.

The only thing I can see is some kind of extreme defensiveness requiring them to attack the product they can't choose because some vague preconceived notions(overpriced, inferior Apple product), and then attack the users when the product is successful (Apple sheep will buy anything).

I would like a tablet with USB ports/SD-slots and I would like the option to program for it on my PC, but I don't know when anything that does that will be available with nearly the quality (IPS screen, HW/SW integration) of the iPad. A year? Two? The iPad may not be perfect, but it looks much better than anything announced.

Apple deserves massive credit for getting a new product so right and sending all the potential competitor scrambling.

Hating on the iPad is just ridiculous. If it doesn't fit your needs, don't get one, no need to blow a gasket.

Excellent post! Get what fits your needs and enjoy it. Everyone has different wants and needs...sometimes Apple products are a good choice for the situation, and other times they are not, depending on the circumstances. It's funny how people like to push their own personal preferences onto others and then try to pass off their opinions as facts.


Android is an OS, iPhone is hardware. Android is on phones being given away for free with contract by phone companies, iPhones are not.

Android is going to run into the same problem that many Apple wannabees have - lack of hardware compatibility, fragmented program based because of different capabilities/conformity/reliability of units its installed on.

Don't get me wrong - will love a strong competitor because it will make Apple improve their product sooner rather than later, but open sourcing and free wheeling developers to do anything they want will turn them into devices that are too inconsistent to fill the niche Apple is aiming for.

Another great post! The user experience is what makes Apple products successful. If using a product is a simple and enjoyable experience, people will buy that product. Given the sales figures, I think it's safe to say that many people are willing to buy Apple products regardless of how "overpriced" or "lacking in specs/functionality" they are. The "limitations" and "restrictions" Apple places on their products ensure a certain level of quality.
 
The AC-7 DAW controller was worth the money alone. I'm a Pro Tools dude and a motorized controller like that would run around $1000. This things functions so well that I personally know a couple of audiogeeks who are now seriously considering iPads just for this app! So MAGICAL! :D :D :D

Plus, the research that I do for my other gig has been dramatically changed with the iAnnotate app. i used to have that on the iPod but it was useless because of the screen size. Now it's nothing short of MAGICAL! :D :D :D

Now we just need a troll-destroyer app!


Ditto. AC-7 and TouchOSC used in conjunction with LiveControl and Ableton are incredible (http://livecontrol.q3f.org/). Korg's iElectribe is a class app as well.


For me, these are killer apps. And when I'm done I can plug iPad into my flatscreen and use it as a set top Netflix box. After that? It becomes a book.

Magical indeed.


P.S. I'm hoping the iPad becomes a handheld GUI for Logic Pro/Pro Tools plugs one day. Imagine selecting a track in Logic and the Sculpture or Ultrabeat interface appears on the iPad screen.
 
I really do want one but have forced myself to wait for 2nd generation - I came in to the Apple market a bit late and have only purchased 2nd gen+ devices.

It's killing me.
Patience, grasshopper.

Or forget it. Just buy the damned thing. I'm an AAPL shareholder, so I want people to cave into their desires. :p

You're probably right to wait. I'm doing the same thing. The price will come down, Apple will make some improvements to the device. I must say that Apple did a pretty good job with iPad 1.0. The current iPad should gain some functionality with the new operating system this fall. I would expect iPad 2.0 and iPhone OS 5.0 to be a winner next year.

I don't want one, but somehow I need one. :confused::confused:
Buy it! Trust your feelings, Luke!
 
Ditto. AC-7 and TouchOSC used in conjunction with LiveControl and Ableton are incredible (http://livecontrol.q3f.org/). Korg's iElectribe is a class app as well.


For me, these are killer apps. And when I'm done I can plug iPad into my flatscreen and use it as a set top Netflix box. After that? It becomes a book.

Magical indeed.


P.S. I'm hoping the iPad becomes a handheld GUI for Logic Pro/Pro Tools plugs one day. Imagine selecting a track in Logic and the Sculpture or Ultrabeat interface appears on the iPad screen.

Thanks for giving a valid instance of something that really can't be done well enough on the iPhone. :) More examples like that please!
 
12 hours, that's pretty funny....

Of course it depends by settings and what you are doing.
My girlfriend played 6 and half hours today with Plants vs Zombies and the battery got from 100% to 49% you mean that I cannot achieve at least the 10 Apple stated?
 
That's it? I thought we covered that when we said *big* iPod Touch? May be I am starting to get it - the rest is left for people to make up - depending on my creativity to play games with my mind I can either find it revolutionary, magical, Saves-us-from-Flash, less-is-better, or find it to be just another useless shiny gadget.
Yes, that's it - big screen. And that changes things completely. I will use the bathtub analogy someone posted already - can you swim in a bathtub? Can you do spreadsheets on a 3.5" screen? (and yes, you can, but it will hardly be the same experience). Screen space gives you the opportunity for more complicated interfaces. Simple as that.
Not to mention some people just struggle with a smaller screen. Obvious.

If I was into some powerful stuff that alters my brain composition I would come out yelling - magical and revolutionary and can even convince myself that for more simplicity I need 4 of them - one for email, one for browser, one for iTunes and one for running an HTML5 site just to convince me Flash is not needed.
Left to reality however it's just a shiny big iPod touch - nothing magical or revolutionary about it.
I'll just repost my previous answer: "And you are falling for "magical"? I hope you don't think you'll become a better father by buying a certain car from a certain company like the ads suggest. Take it for what it is - advertisement, do you complain like that about every company's advertisements?"
It CAN'T be magical. It's pretty clear. About the revolutionary stuff - revolution is just radical change. Now, I think it is a bit early to say if it really is or not, but in the end IMO it will be. This is probably the first device built from the ground up for touch experience and ease of use. Until now touch sucked, because we had some unintuitive interfaces on heavy or too small devices. If the iPad makes the touch experience better and thus make computing easier for everyone, than that's your revolution - people will use this kind of interface much more.

That people buy it does not make it any more interesting than a big iPod touch.
If they buy it, it is interesting to them. The fact that those numbers can't make this device interesting to you means nothing (no offense).

With enough clever marketing and advertising people will buy anything.
No, they won't. There are limits to marketing.
Also what big advertisement we are talking about here? The iPad was revealed end of january - the response in the media was awful and I frankly didn't see that much ads on the TV (in Japan). When you go out and check the articles around, you will see that you have more negative ones. Not to mention that in the end, the iPad is similar enough to the iPod/iPhone so the people would know what to expect to a certain degree. Add to that - the iPad is on display in every Apple store.

So what *exactly* has Apple innovated in terms of the iPad? I keep asking this repeatedly but don't seem to get any convincing replies. It looks shiny and opens windows fast, the experience is magical, look they are selling etc. are not the kind of replies I am interested in hearing.
They innovated in how they integrated the whole thing - same like the iphone. They put a mobile OS on a tablet (remember the critics in january?) and optimized the whole thing for multitouch. I know you are surprised, but that is innovation too.

So Sigh, nth time - try and give me convincing, practical reasons as to why the iPad is Magical and Revolutionary and why according to Jobs it is going to replace the PC when it can't even start up and do its thing without being attached to the PC. (That was a starting point, a hint if you will.)
Convincing reasons for magical? I hope you are joking. Please refer to my example with the car above. It's advertisement.
As to the why it is going to replace the PC - well, here I have only my speculation to offer: multitouch devices are useful. Maybe not for every application out there, but for many nonetheless. So how do we switch to multitouch interfaces? Put a touch layer on a mouse-driven OS - that didn't work - a fact. Build a full OS based on multitouch and give it immediately to people - given the average user this will result in one big confusion - what gesture do I use, how is this working, etc.
And here's what Apple is doing IMHO - build an OSX for multitouch with only basic functionality and put it on an iPhone/iPod - people will get used faster to the few gestures available, meanwhile providing important feedback, which you cannot achieve in a lab. Next, put this OSX on a bigger device, add more functionality... And finally make a full-blown multitouch OS.
 
I Don't think the iPhone os is really gimped.

For a phone, it isn't. For a tablet computer, it is.

So what it doesn't have multitasking? For what i use it for i don't need that and multi tasking is coming anyway.

Also i already have a MBP so having another device with full OSX would be a waist of money.

I'm having trouble with your logic. You're saying to me that you're willing to carry around a device with a gimped OS because another device you already have (which you're either not carrying around, or are carrying around in addition to your iPad) already HAS a full OS, and therefore, a tablet with a full OS would be a waste of money?

Doesn't it also stand to reason that, as you already have a portable device with a full OS on it, a second device with a gimped OS would be entirely unnecessary, and therefore be a "waist" of money?

Also, and I hate to pick this apart, but you're contradicting yourself about multitasking. In the same sentence, you say Multi-Tasking is not something you care about, but it's coming soon. So you decry it and then imply you want it.

You're making my brain hurt a little.
 
For a phone, it isn't. For a tablet computer, it is.
I'm having trouble with your logic. You're saying to me that you're willing to carry around a device with a gimped OS because another device you already have (which you're either not carrying around, or are carrying around in addition to your iPad) already HAS a full OS, and therefore, a tablet with a full OS would be a waste of money?
How is the iPhoneOS not suited for the iPad? I am having trouble with your logic.
 
Cheap, nigh indestructible (I mean really who of us wasn't wondering if our new purchase was just one drop away from junk when we got it), care free, and gives me more access to more things CONVENIENTLY than any computer or laptop I've ever had before.

Don't kid yourself there. There were reports early on and I've seen some since of it being rendered inoperable just getting dropped from a lap onto a carpeted floor. One good fall from a standing position onto a hard floor and it will be a write off. I would say that you need to be very careful with them and definitely dont just carry them around without a case like I see in the commercials.
 
For those of us that have Wi-Fi issues (it goes to zero reception when iPhone or laptop receive a full signal) it isn't such a great piece of technology. It becomes even less of one when we are told that the next patch that *might* address the issue will be sometime in the Fall of 2010. See the long trail of complaints in the Apple forum or the post by Princeton University.

You certainly should have gotten it replaced if you are having that many issues.
 
Those articles are stupid.

The US trails because they have a massive infrastructure of hard wired lines that people have used for years while these other so-called "advanced" countries were living in mud huts. So with the advance of technology it becomes feasible for them to have phone service, and they end up with wireless every where.

Don't get me wrong, it is a good thing that a lot of these backwater countries went from literally no phone service at all to flushed out cell service, but for people to claim that they are more technologically advanced, or for them of all things claim these backwater countries that create none of the actual technology used in the process are some how more advanced is absolutely absurd.

We don't have the same cell penetration rates of other countries because we have a hard-wired infrastructure several layers deep that is probably more extensive than all the rest of the world combined.

This whole post is oddly racist and weird, while at the same time, being neither. :uncomfortable:
 
How is the iPhoneOS not suited for the iPad? I am having trouble with your logic.

It's perfect if they just called it what it is: a PMD.

It's not a tablet computer, any more than an iPod Touch is. For it to be a proper computer, it needs a full-fledged OS. Like OSX. If the iPad had OSX on it I'd buy one tomorrow. Instead I'll buy a Win7 device, when they stop releasing half-baked devices in a misguided attempt to secure some of that gooey iPad market share.

Your logic is still 6 kinds of crazy. "I already have a device that does that so the world doesn't need a device that does that and should instead pay a premium for a device that does less."

Just admit it: You bought an iPad cuz it's cool, it does what it does, and that's all. It's overpriced, under-capable, and nothing more than a toy.
 
Of course it depends by settings and what you are doing.
My girlfriend played 6 and half hours today with Plants vs Zombies and the battery got from 100% to 49% you mean that I cannot achieve at least the 10 Apple stated?

You had me at PLants vs. Zombies.

:Goes Off To Guy an iPad:
 
Ahhhh the magic of flash when the batteries run out!

Thats why you have a charger on hand. most people wont be using flash all the times when just on battery power. You make it seen that people will be using flash all the time, which that isn't the case.

Its only common since that you will loose battery life when running any app, that goes for every battery powered device, and those people know that they will have less time before the battery runs out.

You would have to be quite stupid not to bring a charger with a battery operated device and just let it run out. but if your not around a power source don't run anything that's going to eat CPU/GPU power.

I would rather have to hook up to a charger then not being able to display allot of content on the web. but that is where you bring in the option to enable or disable flash on the fly.
 
It's not a tablet computer, any more than an iPod Touch is. For it to be a proper computer, it needs a full-fledged OS. Like OSX. If the iPad had OSX on it I'd buy one tomorrow. Instead I'll buy a Win7 device, when they stop releasing half-baked devices in a misguided attempt to secure some of that gooey iPad market share.
I don't know such a definition as a "proper computer". In fact, according to the computer definition an iPhone, an iPod, an iPad and a laptop are all computers. There are just in different formats so as to cover different uses.
Full-blown OSX would suck on this kind of processor and wouldn't be suited as well for the touchscreen. You are blaming the iPad for not being a Modbook. It's not correct. If you want a Modbook, bash Apple, but it doesn't make the iPad a crappy device.
PS. The fact that they called it a tablet doesn't mean people compare it to Tablet PCs.

Your logic is still 6 kinds of crazy. "I already have a device that does that so the world doesn't need a device that does that and should instead pay a premium for a device that does less."
That's supposed to be a quote of mine? Please, do not attribute what you think I am thinking to me.

Just admit it: You bought an iPad cuz it's cool, it does what it does, and that's all. It's overpriced, under-capable, and nothing more than a toy.
I don't have an iPad. Overpriced compared to what? Under-capable compared to what?
 
So what *exactly* has Apple innovated in terms of the iPad? I keep asking this repeatedly but don't seem to get any convincing replies. It looks shiny and opens windows fast, the experience is magical, look they are selling etc. are not the kind of replies I am interested in hearing.

So Sigh, nth time - try and give me convincing, practical reasons as to why the iPad is Magical and Revolutionary and why according to Jobs it is going to replace the PC when it can't even start up and do its thing without being attached to the PC. (That was a starting point, a hint if you will.)

I innovate with my 3G 64GB iPad. 'Nuff said. :apple:
 
True, but Apple have the choice to relocate their production to the US. Great for the economy, lots of extra jobs, etc. Because they have over 40 billion US$ in the bank, currently doing nothing as the tale goes, they even could afford it without have to revert to a price increase. Their profit margin as it stands is way above of that of the 'competition', which they don't have because they've created their own ecosystem. They fish in a different pond so to speak. If this is a viable alternative can only be assessed by AAPL themselves. I only buy their products.

I would expect that answer, but the truth is that all electronic products are made of or contain elements that are being produced in similar sweatshops in China. If you want to be completely correct, you should quit using your current computer, abolish the internet and throw out your radio, TV, digital watch, bread-toaster and most of your clothes.

In this situation there is almost no "vote with your wallet option". The only thing you could do is buy less..
 
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