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These “it should be $500” comments really make me laugh. What can $500 buy these days? A 3 year old iPhone?
You got me wrong. I meant even for $500 it would not be a success. People would wear it for a few hours and then it would collect dust.

$500 is a lot of money. You can do two days of vacation for $500. In cheap places even more.
 
Tried it in demo in London Apple Store last week and if there is enough content/apps it can be interesting. The controls work exceptionally well, I think. The immersive video they show during demo is wow. However, it is early adopters product, it is expensive and it is not clear how much I would personally use it.
 
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Given the M4 announcements during the week, this isn’t exactly the “one more thing” I was hoping for..
 
All these eye shielding tech like 3D eventually fail and give up! It is very bad for the eyes and brains! They can even try it as someone mentioning here for $500! It would be interesting to know how many have actually bought and returned after using for a while!
 
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Good to see that it is now available in additional regions. Expecting to see it in more countries soon.
 
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In this space the future belongs to Meta. Millions of units sold, Horizon OS available to other manufacturers, startling quality for the £££, loads of dedicated apps and ... developers willing to invest time in it! As a developer why would you bother? As a professional developer you would be taking all the risk and make little or nothing.
 
You got me wrong. I meant even for $500 it would not be a success. People would wear it for a few hours and then it would collect dust.

$500 is a lot of money. You can do two days of vacation for $500. In cheap places even more.
That’s interesting. As much as I love vacations and restaurants, I find I consciously value computer tech more per dollar, as it isn’t consumed by using it.

And I doubt an AVP would collect dust for me, as even my Quest is in a case if I’m not using it. 😀
 
Why do people disagree with a post where I said I forgot this exists. :oops:
You must be new here! Some people even give :mad: to comments where people simply express liking something. Who expresses anger at another person’s joy? Envy, I could understand, but not anger.

In your case, they are likely inferring your comment as an intended slight of the AVP, as there are many of those, and the AVP threads have largely devolved into Orwellian political shows of Two Minutes Hate.

Social media is not normal society, though it likely will eventually be the end of it. Don’t take it personally.
 
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In this space the future belongs to Meta. Millions of units sold, Horizon OS available to other manufacturers, startling quality for the £££, loads of dedicated apps and ... developers willing to invest time in it! As a developer why would you bother? As a professional developer you would be taking all the risk and make little or nothing.
Well, Meta’s potential 47.5% commission rate probably helps subsidize that lower cost for the headset, but it might turn off some developers. I’m not sure if it has changed, but it certainly seemed ironic after they complained about Apple’s fees.

 
lol nowhere does it say that this is a beta product (besides the user experience which screams it)
I agree. It’s definitely polished. What I consider Beta is that it is released as a product with a functional, yet seemingly incomplete software package. It is just scratching the surface and appears to be waiting for a market rather than the usual way for Apple, where they know the market.
 
It's called "Pro" for a reason. Not intended for consumers. So maybe Apple is making the mistake of trying to sell directly to consumers instead of marketing to specific "professional" markets, such as doctors, engineers, etc.

A non-Pro version is already in the works, but the technology is so advanced, a Pro version gave them the flexibility to push boundaries. They didn't want something that would directly compete with existing consumer-focused headsets, such as Meta Quest, etc.
Ummm.... "Not intended for consumers"? Guess someone didn't send that memo to Apple marketing based on all the marketing material put out by Apple for the VP... plus what "pro" apps were focused at launch? VP is a consumer device, v1 is for early adopters with cash to burn (at least what folks inside Apple think).

Guess it's part of that Apple fan's 1984 Oceania play "It was never meant for consumers, it's always been aimed at professional applications"... yeah and "Eurasia has always been our friend"
 
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Well, Meta’s potential 47.5% commission rate probably helps subsidize that lower cost for the headset, but it might turn off some developers. I’m not sure if it has changed, but it certainly seemed ironic after they complained about Apple’s fees.

47.5% is of course crazy high, but developers want to make money. To be fair 30% is high too. The old saying "A small piece of a big pie is better than a big piece of a small pie", but as the figures stand, would they get any pie at all? Apple burned so many Indie devs ... and they seem to be unusually quiet on the AVP unless you want to look at a 2D iPad in a 3D headset. The games on the Meta are amazing. If they can catch up with Apple's hardware but make it cheaper and lighter, then it is all over for the AVP. Any other business would have dropped it by now. It was a mistake to release such a heavy lopsided device.
 
This thing should have stayed in the lab and should never have seen the light of day as an actual product. Expanding it now to further markets feels to me like a last minute cash grab before they abandon it and leave owners with little more than a vintaged curio.
 
Should have been released in countries like UAE from day 1 as these people have money.
 
This thing should have stayed in the lab and should never have seen the light of day as an actual product. Expanding it now to further markets feels to me like a last minute cash grab before they abandon it and leave owners with little more than a vintaged curio.

Except this isn’t how Apple operates. For Apple to release a product, you can be confident that they will support it for many years to come.

The Vision Pro isn’t going anywhere.
 
Except this isn’t how Apple operates. For Apple to release a product, you can be confident that they will support it for many years to come.

The Vision Pro isn’t going anywhere.

Yeah for sure. I don't doubt it. But I meant that, if it does get discontinued, it's kinda going to feel like the end of the road for existing owners who had hoped it would improve. But then again if Apple does stop selling it I can imagine it will fetch silly sums on the used market in years to come, so every cloud and all that...👍
 
Wonder where Apple will go with this. The headset needs to become as thin & light as possible.

I'm surprised no VR manufacturer has moved the battery and as many other components as possible down to a waist pack that can be put into a pocket or hooked onto the waistband. May or may not appeal to the masses but we won't know until someone tries it. I suspect many VR users use it sitting down or on the sofa, and in that location a waist pack could go on the sofa or on the table.
 
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