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Apple Announces Vision Pro Launching in Two More Countries Next Month
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I’m with you on Laserdisc, as it was way better than CED. But unless you are talking Quadraphonic, I would take Compact Cassette or DAT over 8-track, any day. Heck, even MiniDisc. 🤓
It's using a larger version of it: https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/31/24057392/apple-vision-pro-battery-lightning-cable
That's good to hear! I remember the Macbook Air was expensive & didn't sell that well when it was originally launched, then it was improved, and its price went down as well.
AVP has far too many shortcomings to be worth spending the money. No one here is crying they can't afford it.
I got cost of making VisionPro is probably more than $500, the thing is VisionPro cost over $5000 here in Canada.
When people can barely afford rent/mortgages these days, $5000 is too much for average folks.
You also gonna question the usefulness of this products. Most people do not need VisionPro to get work done or be entertained.
for a product that has according to the haters so low interest 106 messages are a lot - always gives me a big smile when I read that nobody is interested and it's too pricy ...
The fact that people feel entitled to write that shows the impact of the product - I wonder whether a new 12 cylinder ICE Ferrari does the same with haters
The fact that people feel entitled to write that shows the impact of the product - I wonder whether a new 12 cylinder ICE Ferrari does the same with haters
Why the AVP is not being offered in Switzerland is beyond me. They are being "imported" from day one from the USA and people in general have money tu burn here in Switzerland.
I have been waiting for it to become available here to buy one
I have been waiting for it to become available here to buy one
If you think this way, go for it. The neighbor's yard always looks greener until you move into his house and see the reality. Most switchers to Android end up returning once they realize their mistake.
"I wouldn’t pay over 600 bucks for this.": Again, "The Fox and the Grapes".
price is the only thing for me that's attractive in the Android camp - that's their main value proposition and it#s IMHO a weak one for many reasons. Especially when you want to spend less on the long run.
There is an interesting quote from John Ruskin:
It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When
you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay
too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you
bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The
common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a
lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well
to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will
have enough to pay for something better.
Spanish language Keyboard support is long over due for the U.S.
Here's the official language may be English, but there are other languages widely spoken too:
At least putting the effort to support the top 10 would be nice, to be able to communicate with those people.
Here's the official language may be English, but there are other languages widely spoken too:
At least putting the effort to support the top 10 would be nice, to be able to communicate with those people.
its not really a price problem. its a value problem.
you cant do 3500$ worth of stuff with this thing. i dont even think it would move at 2000.
its a dev kit, and they arent doing anything to push development.
You are upset about content? Then you aren’t a professional; you are a consumer looking for an amusement device. Don’t buy an early-adopter Pro product. It isn’t for you. Buy Meta Quest if you are looking for a toy.
for you
for you
yes - wholeheartedly agreed - the good thing is - they made this time the dev kit available for the ones that don't have to turn every penny twice before spending it
do you have a source for that?
last time I had looked in the developer documentations there were tons of new material also from the WWDC material there is tons of new stuff. Additional we are now on VisionOS 2.0 and it's moving mo massively.
You don't like it - that's o.k.
It is simply not true that nothing is moving and that there is no interest. There is just no interest from people that can't afford it or dislike the value proposition - that's an individual choice.
Needless to say that I like mine - and I enjoy using it - this week every evening last week I was traveling and I had no time but there is so much interesting to explore especially the virtual monitor is amazing for getting stuff done on my MBP - to name only one functionality that I highly appreciate.
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I'm glad you have value from your purchase!
I just don't think that your case is representative, and can you honestly say you would choose the AVP over a similarly priced mac, or instead of a 3500 home theater? I bet you already have all those things.
And even people that have money make choices based on what else they can get for the money.
When the thing gets to the point where you would choose it over a mac if you could have only one, then its going to sell widely.
Use my iPad more than my Mac, specially when I'm on the road. And now that I'm carrying my AVP, I'm starting to use it more and more.
On Tuesday I had to review plans for a construction site. My Macbook and iPad displays were not the best tools for this.
I was able to see the full plans in full size, measure distance points and plan best routes for network cabling runs and write some needed annotations on these. No eyestrain, no need to zoom one section at a time: That's priceless.
Also, looking at the Topology map of a large network, nothing can display it better than the AVP.
If the tool is not for you, don't buy it. Not everybody have an air compressor at home, because not everybody is going to put it to good use. But this doesn't mean that those who don't have it are going to criticize does who do have it.
Let’s see…
AVP does everything an iPad Pro does. That’s $1000 worth of value. And it can replace an AppleTV. That’s another $150.
It not only can replace your flat screen TV, it gives you a larger screen, one that is portable to anywhere you want it. I can sit in my backyard and watch a virtual movie-theater-size screen. A decent 100” screen is $5000 these days.
It can replace a 27” 5120x2880 monitor with a much larger screen 5120x2880. That’s at least $1500. But it doesn’t stop there. Because better virtual display support is coming. And I can use it as a display to do programming while also having my bigger than 100” TV playing on the wall beside the display. And I can do that whether I’m in my office or a hotel room on a business trip.
We are up to greater than $7650 value and haven’t mentioned AR and VR yet. I think you just don’t know how to use the device; or you don’t have a professional perspective. Perhaps you don’t have one and can only repeat what you’ve heard others say. Whatever the reason for your opinion, I don’t find truth in it.
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I think we are talking past each other.
OF course there are people who will find the AVP valuable, you are one of those.
For the product to be a commercial success will require much more people (not just edge case, early adopter, tech enthusiast or very rich).
Do you think they are even in the same order of using sales as iPad pros another expensive niche product? I highly doubt it.
How many of those things have you sold or gotten rid of? I bet you still own all those things too.
me too
I certainly hope so - I am by no means the average guy nor do I claim I would be speaking for everybody
my iMac PRO costed six years ago some $ 9 k and my MBP costed some three years ago some $ 7 k and no - I'd certainly not choose to trade them in for a much cheaper AVP
ups - that's roughly the price of the BluRay player alone and the main speakers cost easily in excess of many AVPs let alone the surround speakers additionally - but you don't buy all these things at once - a MAC or a home theatre system lasts a decade - I hardly see anybody buying all these things at once
indeed
of course - a Ferrari or Lamborghini is not the replacement for an other expensive car but the equivalent of a world cruise with your partner or the weekend house at the sea - but for these people the AVP is not even worth mentioning that they bought one
It was mentioned many times before- this is NOT a consumer device - it is a dev. kit that has been made available to the public as well and I highly praise Apple for doing that
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Yes, I still own most of those things. I just don’t use them nearly as much as I used to because the AVP has replaced that use with better fidelity and more convenience. I think you miss the point though. I can afford the AVP and I find all that value in it.
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Meanwhile I'm over here using my $499 Quest 3 every day, streaming PCVR games via Steamlink with incredible graphics, getting software updates monthly that add actually usable features that just keep on improving and improving, and seamlessly playing games with my college kid and his Quest 3s and laughing our butts off.
I didn't have one ounce of buyer's remorse when this thing came out and the YouTube reviews were garnering millions of views raving about the revolutionary VR development. Two weeks later the reviews were flooded with "Why I decided to return my Apple Vision Pro" and Apple announced new games like Solataire and I was shaking my head.
Ok, it was an R&D project and never meant to sell because the technology incorporated within it will be used for future products. What a nightmare for Apple, whatever the case.
I didn't have one ounce of buyer's remorse when this thing came out and the YouTube reviews were garnering millions of views raving about the revolutionary VR development. Two weeks later the reviews were flooded with "Why I decided to return my Apple Vision Pro" and Apple announced new games like Solataire and I was shaking my head.
Ok, it was an R&D project and never meant to sell because the technology incorporated within it will be used for future products. What a nightmare for Apple, whatever the case.
90% of the posts here are schadenfreude. Which is why I'm here.for a product that has according to the haters so low interest 106 messages are a lot - always gives me a big smile when I read that nobody is interested and it's too pricy ...
The fact that people feel entitled to write that shows the impact of the product - I wonder whether a new 12 cylinder ICE Ferrari does the same with haters
If you had really forgotten it exists, you couldn't even realize that you did forget.Why do people disagree with a post where I said I forgot this exists.
'schadenfreude' about what? That a company is perceived failing?
Then you've got no reason for Schadenfreude, since Apple is hardly failing with this one - it is a step from many others for testing user interfaces and by the way failing would be part of any improvement process - the main thing is to learn either how something works or to exclude alternative ways.
Germans don't normally view it that way - many other culture are happily accepting that not trying something is far worse.
Just learned that Schadenfreude is also used in english - how funny - looks like a boring and cringe German attitude - saying that as a German that seldomly has Schadenfreude except when people buy cheap products and get not the functionality they expected.
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