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Apple Announces WWDC 2008 (June 9-13, 2008)

orion123 said:
Or what if we're looking at 10.6 allowing windows and mac apps to run side by side without any Boot Camp/Parallels etc? Red Box?
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Wouldn't Apple need to get permission from Microsoft or something? I mean they probably got permission for Boot Camp, but will Microsoft allow native apps?
 
Ok, that picture freaked me out... Sure would help the traffic problems though.

For what it's worth, I don't think this one is going to be any more decipherable than "Something's in the Air". Apple marketing would have called the HiFi a landmark release, so there's nothing to take from that. If the last invite is anything to judge from, this just means Apple is about to announce the Macbook Landmark...

MattInOz said:
I'm surprised with all the take of symbolism that no one has made anything of the fact that the existing bridge goes where it always has to the suburbs (pretty well off suburbs from what I understand from visits to that wonderful city and well Apples Core market to date homes, schools and creative types) and the new bridge takes you to the CBD.

Maybe the new bridge isn't just the iPhone,
But a new bridge to enterprise, big business enterprise at that.
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CBD? Not sure what that is...

I did notice that it merges in Marin and branches into two parts of the City, but I think that's just because it would be hard to visually construct in the other direction because of the geography..

Depending on what level of literalism you're looking for, the GG bridge is mostly used by commuters into the Financial District. It's not used to travel from the suburbs (Marin) to what you're calling suburbs. The south anchorage is in the city, just not in the big building part of the city. It actually unloads into a park. The "new" bridge is dumping into the Marina which is yuppie housing for people who can afford to rebuild every time the ground shakes.

Two paths to the people, both the same, is the only way I can read this.
 
ajbrehm said:
Is anybody listening?

I was complaining about the fact that the SDK was announced as "free" even though it costs 99 dollars a year if you actually use it. (Running apps in an emulator is not "using an SDK".)

Plus the 99 dollar offer won't be available to me (in Ireland) for another few months.

I don't care about the 99 dollars, I am annoyed because the SDK is marketed as "free" (although it isn't) and because Apple tell me that I cannot buy the key for another few months. It's ANNOYING.

If Apple had said the SDK is available for 99 dollars a year PLUS gave me a way to give them that money, I'd be happy.

But instead Apple have chosen to claim that the SDK is free PLUS won't allow me to use it as of yet.

Again, using the SDK to run an app in an emulator is NOT what the SDK is for. It's like a shareware version of the SDK.

When Apple said "free SDK" I was expecting the software required to build and run programs ion my iPhone, NOT an emulator.

And when Apple said "99 dollars a year" I was expecting that I would at least be allowed to BUY it.

Hence I have no great expectations from WWDC.
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I have to say that compiling and running in an emulator *is* using an SDK, but if you're really upset about the SDK now that you've downloaded it, you can return it and Apple will refund your purchase price.

If it makes you feel any better, the Guiness on this side of the ocean isn't half as good as yours. Let's call it even.
 
Uhhh im getting sick of iPhone announcements... I want to see more Mac ones!
 
I know this isn't a very exciting suggestion, but isn't the most obvious reason for the two bridges just the fact that it symbolizes that it will be a landmark event (the Golden Gate bridge is a landmark in San Francisco, where WWDC is taking place) in more ways than one (2 bridges provide more than one way to cross).

Thus, it will be a landmark for both the iPhone (and the touch OS) and the Mac (Mac OS X).

It doesn't give us any reason to jump to any conclusions, other than the fact they'll have announcements for both the iPhone and the Mac, which almost goes without saying.

Diggity-Dang!
 
Is the SDK going live the news, or is there more?

Diggity-Dan said:
<snip> the most obvious reason for the two bridges just the fact that it symbolizes that it will be a landmark event <snip>
Thus, it will be a landmark for both the iPhone (and the touch OS) and the Mac (Mac OS X).
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What's in the bag? The buyer's guide hints at Overdue/due lines being the nano, classic iPods, Mac mini, iMac and cinema displays.

Do people feel that the SDK going from beta to v1.0 is big enough news to be *the* news on the iPhone front at WWDC?
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Craiger77 said:
Seems pretty obvious to me that the two bridges are just saying developers need to have parallel development of their apps...one version for Macs and the other for iPhones.
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I think you're very correct.

What makes it really obvious is the fact that Apple quite clearly states "The groundbreaking innovations of Mac OS X Leopard and iPhone OS offer two revolutionary development platforms for developers and IT professionals."

So why are there guesses of 3G iPhones, no more iPod Classic, Cocoa on Windows, etc, etc?

Apple has spelled out exactly what this is all about. It couldn't be any clearer.

Or is everyone just happily engaged in MR speculation frenzy because it's just fun? :)
 
mickhyperion said:
What makes it really obvious is the fact that Apple quite clearly states "The groundbreaking innovations of Mac OS X Leopard and iPhone OS offer two revolutionary development platforms for developers and IT professionals."
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So you think app development will be the main theme?
 
Klaxons2012 said:
APPLE IS SPLITTING IN TWO?!

*runs*

*jumps through window*
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Actually, I think that's not that far fetched. The bridges indeed seem to be splitting into two different paths.

Independent Apple Computer and Apple Consumer Electronics would be good for both.

We're seeing lots of missed deadlines lately because of the need to borrow from each of the divisions' teams. That's not a good path to follow for too long.
 
ipedro said:
Actually, I think that's not that far fetched. The bridges indeed seem to be splitting into two different paths.

Independent Apple Computer and Apple Consumer Electronics would be good for both.

We're seeing lots of missed deadlines lately because of the need to borrow from each of the divisions' teams. That's not a good path to follow for too long.
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And the only thing splitting would change is that there would be nowhere to borrow people from... That doesn't sound like a better solution to me.

Which company does Jobs head?

All indications right now are that Apple Computer is benefitting from the buzz around Apple CE. I don't think they'd just cut that tie without cause.

The company divisionalized already, that's as far as it will go.
 
I'm surprised no one has said this... or they did and I'm not reading carefully enough... but its a landmark event...

Two bridges, both the same, but a different path...


My wild guess is...


Mac OS X for PC's
 
My more or less realistic wish list:

iPhone
• iPhone SDK released. Several apps are previewed
• iPhone memory increase 16GB + 32GB + 64GB
• iPhone w/ HDD memory 200GB. Available today.
• 3G iPhone announced. Intel Montevina. Available in the fall (for Christmas '08)

iPod
• iPod Touch memory increase 16GB + 32GB + 64GB
• iPod Touch w/ HDD memory 200GB. Available today.
• iPod Classic discontinued
• iPod Nano memory increase 8GB + 16GB

Announcement of the road map for Mac OS.
• Leopard was last OS X
• Name (Mac OS Leo as in the constellation. No more cats... Leo is a good transition from cats to constellations)
• Focus (multi touch, web based applications)
• Timeline (2010)
• Feature details @ MacWorld 2009

AppleTV
• AppleTV SDK announced
• Apps are widget-like (weather, web clip, movie tickets, etc)
• iChat Video for AppleTV announced. iSight makes a comeback.

One more thing
• New Pro enclosures Mac Pro + MacBook Pro
 
motulist said:
And all the ipod / touch / atv / etc model changes you listed would almost definitely never come at a developer conference.
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True about the developer conference being a bad place to talk about iPod. That was until iPod became hardware that can be developed for.
iPod Classic's raison-d'être is reaching its end. It's redundant. The only reason it still exists is to satisfy the demand for large memory format iPods. That demand can be filled by adding a 200GB HDD to iPod Touch. The click wheel remains alive in the iPod Nano which is essentially a smaller version of the Classic.

iPod can be categorized into 2 zones at this moment: Touch and Portable. Nano and Shuffle fit in the last category. Classic fits nowhere.

As for Leopard being the last OS, I don't think that's that farfetched. The next big move in hardware is towards multi touch screens. Apple is preparing by adding multi touch to their laptops' touch pad.
Such a move would be a large enough leap in concept to justify moving to OS 11.0

OS X is near feature perfect at this point with Leopard. Time to move to OS 11.
 
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