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This isn't going to be the end of OSX. You're not thinking clearly. At this even Steve will probably say the name of the next Mac OS and when we can expect it, and at WWDC 11, they'll actually unveil 10.7 and it's features, and give a firm release date
The last WWDC focused a lot on SL, in particular Grand Central. They don't have anything of interest to show yet (yay, 10.6.4!). They do on the other hand have the iPad and a new iPhone, both of which will be running iPhone OS 4 which has quite a lot of new stuff like multitasking. It's no surprise that they put all their eggs in the iPhone OS basket this year. You need a lot of imagination and conjecture to interpret that as the end of OS X.
 
People wanna rip, err, I mean back-up their BluRay movies

Steve has really taken a stance on Flash and he's shown his feelings about Blu-Ray. Considering his role at Pixar, I know it might be a slight conflict of interest with the iTunes Store and all, wouldn't Pixar benefit from Blu-Ray sales to Mac users? I won't buy any movie on physical media unless it's Blu-Ray. DVD just doesn't cut it for me anymore. I'd be willing to toss my PlayStation 3 if I can play Blu-Ray discs natively on the Mac hooked up to my LCD TV.
 
...I won't buy any movie on physical media unless it's Blu-Ray. DVD just doesn't cut it for me anymore. I'd be willing to toss my PlayStation 3 if I can play Blu-Ray discs natively on the Mac hooked up to my LCD TV.

I can't see physical media for entertainment lasting beyond the start of the next decade, if not before
 
I realize that it's a different thing, but it becomes a mute point if Voice and Data isn't needed, because both can be done over the data network. Why is the Voice network even needed on the iPhone. And it's not even that far fetched since Verizon has been so supportive of Skype and their other phones(Ex. Droid). It kind of seems that they(Verizon) are inderectly pushing that direction anyways.

The way we use mobile phones isn't going to head directly over VoIP when Apple launches this new iPhone.

It'll be a few years before all we'll need is data networks to transmit voice. We only have 3G networks now and they aren't as secure or efficient as the voice towers etc. we use today.
 
Steve has really taken a stance on Flash and he's shown his feelings about Blu-Ray. Considering his role at Pixar, I know it might be a slight conflict of interest with the iTunes Store and all, wouldn't Pixar benefit from Blu-Ray sales to Mac users? I won't buy any movie on physical media unless it's Blu-Ray. DVD just doesn't cut it for me anymore. I'd be willing to toss my PlayStation 3 if I can play Blu-Ray discs natively on the Mac hooked up to my LCD TV.
I don't think it's so much about Blu-Ray competing with the iTunes Store, I think the "bag of hurt" he was mumbling about had to do with the fact that you have to pay a licensing fee to Sony/Philips/Samsung when you make Blu-Ray capable devices. Apple wants a share of everyone else's money (wireless carriers, record companies, TV networks, app developers etc) but they hate the idea of paying anyone else. It's what happens when you're so greedy you cry when you poop.
 
Obviously!
Since Apple created iTunes, everything has changed towards that kind of business...
  • iPod - iTunes (First just music, and then movies and tv episodes)
  • iPhone - AppStore (First webapps... and then platform apps plus iTunes). Now Apple also has iAd
  • iPad - iBooks...

I hope you see the trend here... Apple's main business right now might be computers... but they, for sure, want to change that, because they know they get more money from you buying a song, an app or a book than you buying a laptop and mac os x...

What’s funny is they actually don’t make much money off the iTunes or App Store. The Mac is their second highest revenue generating division behind iPhone (for this quarter) and above iPod.

The vast majority of Apple’s revenue comes from hardware sales.
 

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I don't think it's so much about Blu-Ray competing with the iTunes Store, I think the "bag of hurt" he was mumbling about had to do with the fact that you have to pay a licensing fee to Sony/Philips/Samsung when you make Blu-Ray capable devices. Apple wants a share of everyone else's money (wireless carriers, record companies, TV networks, app developers etc) but they hate the idea of paying anyone else. It's what happens when you're so greedy you cry when you poop.

Is it the drive or the codec/software, or both? Doesn't Apple usually "pass" the costs over to the consumer anyway? I'd rather have the choice than not.

And while they're at it, what's with 1050 resolution on the monitors? Squeeze in the remaining 30 so we can do 1080p!
 
As many people have said, the iPhone & iPad is where the $$$ is now, so why focus on its computer & full Mac OS X line?

Because thats where consumer dedication is. Kill the Mac and soon you have bunch of iToys which could be a huge now but might plummet due to high fluctuation of mobile communications industry. I would argue that for majority of dedicated Mac users iPhone etc. are just a "nice things to have" in comparison to Mac and Mac OS X which at least I see as most important Apple products.
 
I can't see physical media for entertainment lasting beyond the start of the next decade, if not before

It will... Think about 4K res etc. and you realise that there is no viable on-line delivery methods except fibre to home solutions and even that is not a full solution due to high capacity storage requirements of the media.
 
What’s funny is they actually don’t make much money off the iTunes or App Store. The Mac is their second highest revenue generating division behind iPhone (for this quarter) and above iPod.

The vast majority of Apple’s revenue comes from hardware sales.

Yes, but the iTunes revenue is pure profit. Apple doesn't make most of the things sold on iTunes, but they get a cut from the sale. They get a cut of the revenue, not even the profit. No risk at all! Pretty sweet deal if you ask me. All they really have to do is maintain iTunes.
 
Because thats where consumer dedication is. Kill the Mac and soon you have bunch of iToys which could be a huge now but might plummet due to high fluctuation of mobile communications industry. I would argue that for majority of dedicated Mac users iPhone etc. are just a "nice things to have" in comparison to Mac and Mac OS X which at least I see as most important Apple products.

I just fear that Apple would just develop a new fad if/when the whole iPad & iPhone thing loses interest. And when iPads & iPhones do lose interest, they'd drop those & go with the new fad. I'm no expert in business, but isn't the point supposed to be go where the $$$ is? Right now, it's consumer electronics, not Mac OS X & desktop computers. Or at least that's how Apple is coming off to me.
 
It will... Think about 4K res etc. and you realise that there is no viable on-line delivery methods except fibre to home solutions and even that is not a full solution due to high capacity storage requirements of the media.

I was just about to say that....
Each BluRay can go upto 50GB... Try downloading and then carrying that on your computer. Even if you use really good compression and cut down the bonus materials, you are still looking at about 15GB for the movie and DTS audio. And that translates into no more than 10 movies on a 250GB hard drive which is standard on the low end Mac laptops.
 
Because thats where consumer dedication is. Kill the Mac and soon you have bunch of iToys which could be a huge now but might plummet due to high fluctuation of mobile communications industry. I would argue that for majority of dedicated Mac users iPhone etc. are just a "nice things to have" in comparison to Mac and Mac OS X which at least I see as most important Apple products.

As an example, I never would have bought an iPhone, since I don't want a cell phone. But now that I have my first iMac, I'm thousands of times more likely to buy an iPhone and possibly an iPad or MacBook to go with it. The desktop and mobile product lines reinforce each other.
 
I can't see physical media for entertainment lasting beyond the start of the next decade, if not before

But we're not living at the start of the next decade. It would be like Apple saying in 1990, "floppy disks will not last past the start of the next decade so we're ditching them now." It wouldn't have been the best move.

Because thats where consumer dedication is. Kill the Mac and soon you have bunch of iToys which could be a huge now but might plummet due to high fluctuation of mobile communications industry.

And while the iPod has so far beaten off all competitors, its market is contracting. The iPhone, and maybe iPad, may be flying high now but they will soon face serious competition themselves. On the other hand with Macs Apple has clearly shown a competitive edge in some aspects of the computer market, and its share of that market has been noticeably gaining in some areas. It would be a shame to see Apple not try to follow up that momentum.
 
Because thats where consumer dedication is. Kill the Mac and soon you have bunch of iToys which could be a huge now but might plummet due to high fluctuation of mobile communications industry. I would argue that for majority of dedicated Mac users iPhone etc. are just a "nice things to have" in comparison to Mac and Mac OS X which at least I see as most important Apple products.

I'm thinking about this too. When Jobs said that the iPhone is five years ahead of the competition, he wasn't kidding. It's three years since he said that and there hasn't been a successful "iPhone killer" to date. However, with the introduction of the iPad+3G, I actually second-guessed my want/need for the "iPhone HD." My dumb flip-phone and an iPad 3G may be all I need, especially if AT&T is going to want ANOTHER $30 for the iPhone's data plan while I'm already paying $30 for the iPad's 3G. Of course, this would all be moot if AT&T would just enable tethering already.
 
Yes, but the iTunes revenue is pure profit. Apple doesn't make most of the things sold on iTunes, but they get a cut from the sale. They get a cut of the revenue, not even the profit. No risk at all! Pretty sweet deal if you ask me. All they really have to do is maintain iTunes.

Think about the massive server farms, bandwidth, support, maintenance, software development etc. It all costs money and as you see the revenue is small compared to other segments.
 
Is it the drive or the codec/software, or both? Doesn't Apple usually "pass" the costs over to the consumer anyway? I'd rather have the choice than not.
It's the drive itself. $10 for a player, $15 for a recorder. Apple probably wants $3 back for every dollar spent. But it wouldn't cost a fortune, it's more about principle than money I think.

Steve's exact quote was "Blu-ray is just a bag of hurt. I don't mean from the consumer point of view. It's great to watch movies, but the licensing is so complex. We're waiting until things settle down, and waiting until Blu-ray takes off in the marketplace before we burden our customers with the cost of the licensing and the cost of the drives."

Well, Blu-ray has taken off and things have settled down... the licensing used to cost upwards of $20 and there were several different licensing fees to pay, but they've changed to a unified system and lowered the fee a bit so maybe it's good enough for Apple now.
 
Think about the massive server farms, bandwidth, support, maintenance, software development etc. It all costs money and as you see the revenue is small compared to other segments.

i've read the financial statements, its small but if the iTunes profit wasn't there or it was really break even then Apple's profits wouldn't be close to what they are. iTunes is a huge profit driver.

server hardware is dirt cheap
they probably have dedicated circuits to all the major ISP's to cut costs
from what i've read iTunes backend is a modified newsgroup server and it's all open source software
 
In OS X, just hit the space bar, the first selected image pops up, and you can go through 'em like that. Or view the folder in CoverFlow and, again, see 'em 1-by-1. You don't need to open them at all. It's all in the Finder.

me=deeply ashamed with my big mouth. I am sorry and thanks! I never knew this.
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With kind regards,
Bas
 
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