Apple Approves Parler to Return to App Store

[cgsnipinva]

500+ people waiting in the stairs to push down the door and enter a secure area of federal building while you have riots outside with teargas, and other deterrents being used, and you have an unknown jumping through the window. They were lucky it was only one that got shot. While I don't like using the "if it was..." quote, if these insurgents were darker in color, there would have been a lot more than one dead.

My God what utter BS - there was only 250 on the capital grounds not even close to 500 busting into the building and most of them were LET IN by the capitol police who opened doors and pointed the way --- there is a lot of video on that.
But - when the left wing female nutjobs were protesting the Kavanaugh confirmation - there were about 400 left wing terrorists and thugs who broke into the capital - began banging on the Senate door and chased down Senators in elevators.

But that was "brave".

 

[icanhazmac]

Unfortunately, trump supporters, nazis, people on parler think they are infallible and never report a thing. Hell, they voted for someone who openly advocated for killing his opponent, they're defending rapists, child molesters, racists, nazis.

So since you are willing to lump every Trump supporter together as defenders of rapists, child molesters, racists and nazis how about you step up and start calling every single Hilary Clinton voter a defender of a serial sexual predator and known traveling companion of Jeffery Epstein which probably lumps that individual in as a pedophile as well? Everyone who voted for her was ok with him being First Gentleman of the country!

The 'leftwing nutjob' is a fringe part of the left. The 'rightwing nutjob' is the majority of the republican party.

That is as silly a statement as stating the reverse which some on the fringe right do. IMHO most of the country is somewhat centrist (with slight right or left leanings) and desperate to keep their heads down as to not get caught by cancel culture.

 

[allan.nyholm]

Awesome news

 

[cgsnipinva]

Diversity in app store is good. Apple shouldn't block apps based on ideology (nor have they in the past).

However, a social network that caters to and provide an echo chamber of a single ideology is not diversity.

You mean like Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, et al????

The only reason you might have a Parler or Gab that has a predominantly conservative usage is because the left-wing fascists on the other platforms banned them all. The only thing Facebook and Twitter won't ban are left wing violent terrorism, pedophiles, and child porn. Somehow all of those things are "not against community guidelines". but disagree with the UN, bans on pipelines or illegal immigration policy - or even worse expose CNN admitting they produce propaganda for political ends - BOOM - in the high tech Gulag you go.

Apple should let them all on - the responsibility of content should be on the posters.

 

[siddavis]

What unconstitutional changes to election laws?

Heaven forbid we actually allow any and all Americans to vote.

Are you even remotely curious?
ANY change to election laws that were not passed by a state's legislature is unconstitutional (this can be federal - Article II - and/or state).
So, here are a few:

• Michigan Secretary of State unilaterally ordering that absentee ballot signatures are presumed valid
• Pennsylvania Supreme Court modifying deadlines and requirements for absentee ballots
• Pennsylvania Secretary of State unilaterally changing the statutory requirement that the signatures on absentee ballots must match the signature on the voter registration card
• More in Wisconsin, Georgia etc.

Courts and Secretaries of State are NOT state legislatures, therefore unconstitutional.

Voter integrity is at stake, but we can't even discuss it without being labeled as seditionists! You want any and all Americans to vote. I want any and all Americans to vote. I will not apologize for wanting to ensure that I and you and anyone else are not disenfranchised by illegal votes!

 

[shadow puppet]

*keeps wondering why this thread hasn't yet been relocated to the PRSI forum*

 

[Hodar1]

Remind me again
When have censors, book burners, and thugs who silence any differing opinions considered the “Good Guys”?

Silencing a dissenting opinion, does not make you right. It merely proves you cannot defend your opinion in the arena of free thought.
It’s a sign of intellectual weakness

 

[WiseAJ]

*keeps wondering why this thread hasn't yet been relocated to the PRSI forum*

It's already in the Political News forum.

 

[cgsnipinva]

What unconstitutional changes to election laws?

Heaven forbid we actually allow any and all Americans to vote.

We do let every American vote - there has been no restrictions - but the Unconstitutional changes to voting rules were legion. In Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia - the Governors changed voting rules in contradiction to state law. That is illegal at the state level and Unconstitutional - If you read the Consitution - State Legislatures have exclusive authority to post state election law and rules. NOT the governor. It is quite explicit.

In Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Michigan - universal mail in balloting - with no controls - were made without any input from the state legislature. That is illegal and UNCONSITUTIONAL.

Having internal controls and security over ballots is NOT voter suppression it is voter integrity. Dead people, non-citizens, and felons are not allowed to vote under law and the Constitution.

 

[cgsnipinva]

I honestly don't think Parler stands a chance in heck keeping things moderated. Good luck with that.

Well as long as they do better job than twitter/facebook of keeping the pedophiles, child porn, and ANTOFA/BLM terrorist videos clampled down they should be fine.

 

[shadow puppet]

It's already in the Political News forum.

Yes, I am aware of that.

 

[cgsnipinva]

Are you even remotely curious?
ANY change to election laws that were not passed by a state's legislature is unconstitutional (this can be federal - Article II - and/or state).
So, here are a few:

• Michigan Secretary of State unilaterally ordering that absentee ballot signatures are presumed valid
• Pennsylvania Supreme Court modifying deadlines and requirements for absentee ballots
• Pennsylvania Secretary of State unilaterally changing the statutory requirement that the signatures on absentee ballots must match the signature on the voter registration card
• More in Wisconsin, Georgia etc.

Courts and Secretaries of State are NOT state legislatures, therefore unconstitutional.

Voter integrity is at stake, but we can't even discuss it without being labeled as seditionists! You want any and all Americans to vote. I want any and all Americans to vote. I will not apologize for wanting to ensure that I and you and anyone else are not disenfranchised by illegal votes!

Well stated. But dont let the law or facts get in the way of "feelings".

 

[Hodar1]

what a terrible thing to say, not every person on the right or trump supporter is a nazi, don't throw that word around, 6 million of my people died because of them that word gets chucked around to anyone you don't agree with

This is an intellectual test.
Nazis censored, and silenced anyone who dared question the government
Nazis determined what was the news
Nazis had brown shirts beat and kill those who opposed them at political rallies
Nazis would not tolerate anyone speaking public
Nazis were also called the German National Democratic Party
Nazis burned books that suggested ideas contrary to their beliefs
Nazis were violent

You obviously have never been anywhere near a Trump rally

 

[TheMacDaddy1]

Are you even remotely curious?
ANY change to election laws that were not passed by a state's legislature is unconstitutional (this can be federal - Article II - and/or state).
So, here are a few:

• Michigan Secretary of State unilaterally ordering that absentee ballot signatures are presumed valid
• Pennsylvania Supreme Court modifying deadlines and requirements for absentee ballots
• Pennsylvania Secretary of State unilaterally changing the statutory requirement that the signatures on absentee ballots must match the signature on the voter registration card
• More in Wisconsin, Georgia etc.

Courts and Secretaries of State are NOT state legislatures, therefore unconstitutional.

Voter integrity is at stake, but we can't even discuss it without being labeled as seditionists! You want any and all Americans to vote. I want any and all Americans to vote. I will not apologize for wanting to ensure that I and you and anyone else are not disenfranchised by illegal votes!

This is the problem. Long before Trump I wanted voter ID. I think you MUST be an actual citizen of this country to vote in it. If I moved to England, France, Germany, China, Russia or whatever I would not even think about voting until I became a citizen of those countries. It would not cross my mind and I would think it crazy to let NON citizens vote.

I had these beliefs 10-15 years ago. Now if I bring up the fact that there were irregularities, like those listed above, I am some foaming at the mouth, conspiracy theory believing Trump nut job.

I want every American citizen that has the right to vote, to vote. I am sorry if you must show your valid ID. You have to do so for many, many things in this country that are far less sacred than the right to vote.

 

[eoblaed]

Joy. The world was a better place without the cesspool of Parler.

 

[icanhazmac]

I want every American citizen that has the right to vote, to vote. I am sorry if you must show your valid ID. You have to do so for many, many things in this country that are far less sacred than the right to vote.

THIS!

I need a photo ID to prove who I am to do the following:

Drive (are states racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from driving?)
Fly (are airlines racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from flying?)
Medical Appointments (are doctors racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from visiting their doctor?)
Will call tickets (are theaters/arenas racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from attending concerts or sporting events?)
Car Rental (are car rental companies racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from renting cars?)
Staying in a hotel (are hotels racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from staying in a hotel?)
Drinking at bars (are bars racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from drinking?)

EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN CITIZEN should be able to vote.... after they show an ID. The very idea that showing an ID is racist is just plain stupid.

 

[siddavis]

EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN CITIZEN should be able to vote.... after they show an ID. The very idea that showing an ID is racist is just plain stupid.

No, it is just plain racist.

 

[WiseAJ]

THIS!

I need a photo ID to prove who I am to do the following:

Drive (are states racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from driving?)
Fly (are airlines racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from flying?)
Medical Appointments (are doctors racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from visiting their doctor?)
Will call tickets (are theaters/arenas racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from attending concerts or sporting events?)
Car Rental (are car rental companies racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from renting cars?)
Staying in a hotel (are hotels racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from staying in a hotel?)
Drinking at bars (are bars racist and disenfranchising certain segments of the population from drinking?)

EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN CITIZEN should be able to vote.... after they show an ID. The very idea that showing an ID is racist is just plain stupid.

None of those things listed are constitutional rights. Voting is. That's the difference. This whole call for a voter ID is just a tool being used to suppress the constitutional rights of the poor and minorities.

 

[siddavis]

"If you’re able to, chip in now to the @MNFreedomFund to help post bail for those protesting on the ground in Minnesota."

“Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up and if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere."

“The people are going to turn on them. They’re going to protest. They’re going to absolutely harass them until they decide that they’re going to tell the President, ‘No, I can’t hang with you.’”

“Please don’t just come here today and then go home. Go to the Hill today. Get up and, please, get up in the face of some congresspeople.”

-- What are things not said on Parler --

 

[siddavis]

None of those things listed are constitutional rights. Voting is. That's the difference. This whole call for a voter ID is just a tool being used to suppress the constitutional rights of the poor and minorities.

HOW does it suppress the constitutional rights of the poor and minorities?
Please, be specific.

 

[w_aldo]

This is an intellectual test.
Nazis censored, and silenced anyone who dared question the government
Nazis determined what was the news
Nazis had brown shirts beat and kill those who opposed them at political rallies
Nazis would not tolerate anyone speaking public
Nazis were also called the German National Democratic Party
Nazis burned books that suggested ideas contrary to their beliefs
Nazis were violent

You obviously have never been anywhere near a Trump rally

Sounds like you’re describing Antifa/the left in general, if I’m being honest

 

[bluespark]

I wish section 230 would be reexamined. You're right, the web would not function if that were the rule, so be it. Social media is the single most damaging thing to soceity. If what people say on other platforms requires the platform is liable reduces the freedom of social media, I'm all for it.

I strongly support section 230, so I doubt we'll come to agreement. That said, I hope you consider that the protections it affords are not merely applicable to social media, but rather to all sites that allow user interaction. If a site like this couldn't police its boards without inviting liability for things not policed, its boards would start to look *more* like conventional social media in that anyone could post whatever they want.

 

[HiVolt]

Mixed feelings. We shouldn’t allow fringe ideologies to find bubbles where they can reinforce each others’ false beliefs, but I’m also glad maybe they’ll keep the crazy off Twitter and FB.

Then ban facebook & twitter too. Plenty of hate & discrimination there.

 

[criticasm]

Yes you can
Taken to the extreme, we can choose not to allow a social media app for murderers
Up to you where you draw the line of who should be allowed to share ideologies, but there is absolutely a choice

"peaceful protests" in the past year have killed over a hundred people. We know exactly what side of the line extremists & murders are on. And how to this day they continue to fester, cultivate & indoctrinate their warped ideologies in social media.

 

[Alan Wynn]

FB and Twitter are cesspools no matter what side of the political fence you’re on.

Even with no politics at all!