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Apple Asking App Developers to Prepare for Large Screen Demos Next Month?

techfreak85 said:
What does "full screen" mean? That's a little vague. Full screen for the iPhone? Mac? Tablet?
I certainly hope its a tablet.
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If you're iPhone Web and/or iPhone Touch application developer, it simply means to hide the status bar so that your application fills the entire screen. Also, it's very common when using iPhone applications in landscape orientation.
 
kingcobra2010 said:
FINAL

Apple tablet = failure

come back when you want to find out how you did with your debate. The prediction will still be here. But as you can see others also predict it would be a failure.
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A lot of people predicted that the iPhone would be a failure because of the non-standard keyboard. Thus, Apple tends to produce products based on their vision instead of the narrow minded attitudes that try to inhibit it.
 
here are several comments about the beloved apple tv

http://www.tvpredictions.com/apple091409.htm

just understand, that a device that people already have will not succeed. Which is why appleTV failed.

The apple tablet will provide you with a device that you already have. It is called a smart phone. It will not provide you with anything outside of that. If you think apple will give you mac os x with all the component for $600 then you will be disappointed. The only thing you can buy from apple that is in the pc range for that price is a mac mini (no kb, no mz, nothing but the main box).

There is your answer on what the tablet will not be and what it will be.
 
Actually that is based on only one prediction of MS. MS never made devices. They make software only. so the point is not as big as you think. People on your board call it a failure. So what is the point. Are you scared of the truth? Scared you might have to jump on someones else's band wagon?
 
Tablets have had a rough time since their beginning so its got a huge mountain to climb. However, people said both the iPod and the iPhone would be a failure. Then again we could be looking at another AppleTV or MacBook Air. Only time will tell.

kingcobra2010: you should use the multi-quote feature instead of making consecutive posts.
 
flopticalcube said:
Tablets have had a rough time since their beginning so its got a huge mountain to climb. However, people said both the iPod and the iPhone would be a failure. THen again we could be looking at another AppleTV or MacBook Air. Only time will tell.
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Tablets have barely penetrated the sphere of the average consumer.

I have a feeling that Apple will bring tablet computing to the masses. It'll be as if "tablets" that came before had never even existed.
 
Perhaps the surprising input technique is combined resistive/capacitive display. Would be nice to allow pressure sensitive pens, etc.
 
cmaier said:
Perhaps the surprising input technique is combined resistive/capacitive display. Would be nice to allow pressure sensitive pens, etc.
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Isn't it just a case of providing a pen with a small electric field? There's pens that work with the iPhone right now.

I sorta imagined they might use bluetooth to feedback the pressure on the nib. The additional benefit would be if you wandered off without putting the stylus back into the tablet it would know when it went out of range and alert you.
 
MikeDTyke said:
Isn't it just a case of providing a pen with a small electric field? There's pens that work with the iPhone right now.

I sorta imagined they might use bluetooth to feedback the pressure on the nib. The additional benefit would be if you wandered off without putting the stylus back into the tablet it would know when it went out of range and alert you.
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Disadvantage of that would be you'd have to have a battery in the pen, and your pen resolution would be a bit lower. Could work, though.
 
MikeDTyke said:
To quote Mr T, 'quit your jibber jabber, fool'. Honestly, you're not making any sense whatsoever. Come back when you can form a coherent sentence.

MS make plenty of hardware. People on this board call a lot of things failures, even epic failures. Doesn't make it true.

The only bandwagon i'm ever on is my own, so for me to jump on someone else's i'll have drop dead first. Truth never scares me, i love it. Just like i love my Samsung XP netbook, my Dell monitors, my Epson printer, my Toshiba LCD TV, my Nikon SLR, my Mac Pro with windows 7, my iPhone 3G, my AppleTV & my iPod 5.5G. I always buy the best gadget for the task at hand. By best i don't mean a list of features, but every design detail that makes the product truly great.

I don't get it always right too, that iMac G5 sure was noisy and i'm glad i was able to pass on my iPod 3G to someone else who appreciated it more.

Got find another bridge to sit under.
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What does MS make. KB and MZ with MS branded on them. The only thing that I think of is the Xbox. And really the Xbox is a device that is made of several none MS components. The only thing on the Xbox that is MS is the OS.

Here is a prediction from a while ago about the MB Air.

http://macosrumors.com/articles/market-for-macbook-air/

where is the MB Air now. Yea it is in a very niche market that did not flourish. That was apples answer to tablets back then. Now we have the apple tablet. So now lets see how this can hold up.

Now enough of the arguing. I would love to sit and play but this is starting to get boring.

Just was just food for thought. It will be displayed soon and every ones questions will be answered.
 
cmaier said:
Disadvantage of that would be you'd have to have a battery in the pen, and your pen resolution would be a bit lower. Could work, though.
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Yes it would have a battery that would be trickle charged when the stylus was docked in the tablet.

Pen resolution, if you mean the levels of pressure should be no different to a typical graphics tablet, by that i mean you could get 256 levels. Maybe not the 1000+ of a pro wacom.
 
kingcobra2010 said:
What does MS make. KB and MZ with MS branded on them. The only thing that I think of is the Xbox. And really the Xbox is a device that is made of several none MS components. The only thing on the Xbox that is MS is the OS.
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Much like Apple's computers then. MS also makes things like headsets (which are actually pretty good) and few other niche goodies.
 
conradwt said:
If you're iPhone Web and/or iPhone Touch application developer, it simply means to hide the status bar so that your application fills the entire screen. Also, it's very common when using iPhone applications in landscape orientation.
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Thank You! Finally a straight forward answer! Not that i had any doubt it was for a tablet anyway...:rolleyes:
 
kingcobra2010 said:
What does MS make. KB and MZ with MS branded on them. The only thing that I think of is the Xbox. And really the Xbox is a device that is made of several none MS components. The only thing on the Xbox that is MS is the OS.

Here is a prediction from a while ago about the MB Air.

http://macosrumors.com/articles/market-for-macbook-air/

where is the MB Air now. Yea it is in a very niche market that did not flourish. That was apples answer to tablets back then. Now we have the apple tablet. So now lets see how this can hold up.

Now enough of the arguing. I would love to sit and play but this is starting to get boring.

Just was just food for thought. It will be displayed soon and every ones questions will be answered.
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I've been bored of you for the last 2 pages of this thread....BTW congratulations on finally identifying an Apple product that doesn't sell so well. Oh BTW how many Dell Adamo's or that Acer ultralites have sold? They're supposed to be the Air killers, give us some numbers. Oh wait you can't. Guess its not a failure then.

When you're ready to actually discuss the tablet rather than ranting on about other perceived failed products that have nothing to do with whether or not the tablet will succeed, i'll be awaiting.

Gotta go though, flight to catch in a few hours. Thanks for killing the last 2. :D
 
MikeDTyke said:
Yes it would have a battery that would be trickle charged when the stylus was docked in the tablet.

Pen resolution, if you mean the levels of pressure should be no different to a typical graphics tablet, by that i mean you could get 256 levels. Maybe not the 1000+ of a pro wacom.
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I meant x,y coordinates. Capacitive systems typically have less resolution than resistive systems (though they usually require calibration, which sucks).
 
MorphingDragon said:
Actually I'm going to have to correct you there. Apple design their own hardware. They just get other companies to make it. Microsoft got Toshiba to design the 360.
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I was refering to the parts. The XBox is a device made from several non-MS components, much like an Apple computer. Actually, I would have been surprised if MS designed any hardware.

Oh and while we are talking about MS hardware, let us not forget that roaring MS success story... Zune.
 
kingcobra2010 said:
The apple tablet will provide you with a device that you already have. It is called a smart phone. It will not provide you with anything outside of that. If you think apple will give you mac os x with all the component for $600 then you will be disappointed.
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Just because it (is likely to) runs iPhone OS means it's exactly the same as the iPhone? So the larger display gives no advantages?

I agree that it won't be running Mac OS X for $600 though.

I'm tired of the repetitive argument of "if it runs iPhone OS (or something like it), it won't have any more features or do any more than an iPhone or iPod touch." According to that, there's no point in getting a 17" MBP over a 13" MB.
 
cmaier said:
"Bigger iphone" == based on Cocoa Touch, running on ARM? Not a dumb idea, and likely to be a huge success.
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Such a device would:

1. be slower than Windows or Android-based devices built on Atom
2. have very limited API compared to full-blown Windows API.
3. have no support for Flash memory (would it even have a user-exposed file system?)

These "issues" perhaps could be compensated somehow but it is not obvious. If, on the other hand, it will have e-ink-like screen, be very thin and hav very long battery life then it could be useful (albeit as a niche product).
 
lilo777 said:
Such a device would:

1. be slower than Windows or Android-based devices built on Atom
2. have very limited API compared to full-blown Windows API.
3. have no support for Flash memory (would it even have a user-exposed file system?)

These "issues" perhaps could be compensated somehow but it is not obvious. If, on the other hand, it will have e-ink-like screen, be very thin and hav very long battery life then it could be useful (albeit as a niche product).
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You do know that ARM chips can go up to Dual Core 2GHZ right? (Or the current specification can, either one. Cant remember)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A9_MPCore

And Cocoa Touch has all the functionality of Cocoa. Its GUI functions just have been changed for touch format.
 
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