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1999? Way to be on top of the news, Neil. And even if Gates gave away everything but one billion, he would still be a billionaire and have more money than he could possibly spend. I don't know about you, but I'm not impressed when astoundingly wealthy individuals give large amounts to charity in a very public way (Gates, Oprah, etc.). Are they suffering even one tiny inconvenience because of these gifts? No, it literally costs them nothing personally, and they always make sure their name is attached to any gift. I don't expect them to be monks and nuns, but they're missing the point entirely.

I don't know what Jobs does charity-wise, and neither does anyone else, and he certainly doesn't lack for ego. But I suspect he does things quietly because he doesn't like his personal life dissected.
 
My only problem with Apple is that if they have it their way, Mac OS X & iPhone OS will merge and become one platform that Apple have total control over.

The iTablet will be the platform to test this on.
 
Looks like it got pulled. I tried to go on to page three and the server isn't responding. Been trying for a few minutes, still nothing. I didn't get to the end so hopefully it's just an error.
 
Nerver really cared for Steve Jobs. I appreciate his innovation and and his will to make a great product. All-in-all I could give a damn who is behind my next iMac that I purchase, as long as it does it's job.
 
1999? Way to be on top of the news, Neil. And even if Gates gave away everything but one billion, he would still be a billionaire and have more money than he could possibly spend. I don't know about you, but I'm not impressed when astoundingly wealthy individuals give large amounts to charity in a very public way (Gates, Oprah, etc.). Are they suffering even one tiny inconvenience because of these gifts? No, it literally costs them nothing personally, and they always make sure their name is attached to any gift. I don't expect them to be monks and nuns, but they're missing the point entirely.

I don't know what Jobs does charity-wise, and neither does anyone else, and he certainly doesn't lack for ego. But I suspect he does things quietly because he doesn't like his personal life dissected.

That article may be old but it's even higher numbers now. The Gates have done incredible things with their money.

Microsoft and Apple aside, Jobs has almost no philanthropy to speak of.

Sorry to be so blunt but the truth hurts: Bill Gates has benefited humanity much more than Steve Jobs ever has and ever will.
 
Another take

These type of profile pieces usually can be summarized as "Jobs may be an *******, but that may be the secret to Apple's success"

Many here assume that Apple may take issue with the first part. I am suggesting they are more scared of the second.

The more Steve's personality, aesthetics, and tactics are tied to the success of Apple, the harder they will have trying to make it without him, which, realistically, will not be that far in the future.

My guess is that they are trying to minimize the Legend of Jobs and discourage accounts of the narcissistic perfection that has made Apple what it is today.

Trying to get articles like this blocked may not be caused by a huge wounded ego, but by smart business sense.
 
the question remains whether anyone other than Jobs can have the same presence and command the same level of respect that has defined Jobs and Apple over the years.
It's not hard to come up with an answer: NO at first; MAYBE later.
 
Their "attempts to suppress" the story make a good headline, but they sound like just Apple calling and asking them not to run the story. Which is ridiculous, but "suppression" to me would mean Apple went OUTSIDE the publication to place pressure or threats.

I don't side with Apple on any of these little stories, but I also don't think they're any bigger than what any corporation does. In Apple's case it makes a trendier headline, though.

It's not hard to come up with an answer: NO at first; MAYBE later.

And nobody new will ever offer the SAME things to Apple, but they can offer their OWN unique strengths that Jobs doesn't have.
 
I'm a little doubtful there was a concerted effort to stifle the publishing of this article...

No doubt in my mind.

When I first found out Steve Jobs was a narcissist, my respect for him went down. I still respect his work and I am not saying he is not a genius. I think he needs to be this way (Not to much) to control and run a multi-billion dollar company.

It's unfortunate, but I think his work and approach to management of Apple is likely the primary reason his health is failing.

The story was written with one goal in mind.... to sell newspapers. Newspapers used to report the news. Now, in their waning days, they are a mix of fact, fiction, rumor and innuendo. Particularly true in the UK...

Not just in the UK. Most American rags no longer even try to veil their bias. The sooner newspaper companies wither on the vine, the better, IMO.

It's a hit piece that Apple didn't like and tried to discourage.

So what? Happens all the time.

Sure, but who can resist watching all the Jobs worship when pieces like this surface? Melt down some gold and make a graven image of the Great One ... then wait and see how long it takes for the crooning and chanting by followers to circle it in worship. :D

That article may be old but it's even higher numbers now. The Gates have done incredible things with their money.

Microsoft and Apple aside, Jobs has almost no philanthropy to speak of.

Sorry to be so blunt but the truth hurts: Bill Gates has benefited humanity much more than Steve Jobs ever has and ever will.

I'm not sure about Jobs' charitable giving, but I suspect you are correct about Bill and Melinda Gates.
 
That was a pretty good read. I bet there'll be a race to write the definitive biography on Steve Jobs once he passes away - not that I want that to happen any time soon!

It's not really Apple that needs to loosen up. Those PR people would have received direct orders from Jobs, so we're basically dealing with a desire to protect oneself. That's perfectly understandable, of course. Even I would be anxious if I knew a large article was being published on my life.
 
I want to read Steve's auto/biography once he leaves this earth. Before then, I'll give him his privacy.
 
There is only one Steve and we are his prophets.

Ugh, can't stand this sort of fanboy rhetoric. It's one thing to be a fan of and use Apple products(which most sane people here are) it's quite another to anoint SJ your personal deity. I really hope you forgot the sarcasm tag at the end of your remark.
 
Sounds like a good article demonstrating how Steve's personality traits (good and bad) are reflected in Apple's product and policies (Apple Store).

Ironic how the suppression attempt of this article demonstrates the control freak nature of Jobs described in the article.
 
Ugh, can't stand this sort of fanboy rhetoric. It's one thing to be a fan of and use Apple products(which most sane people here are) it's quite another to anoint SJ your personal deity. I really hope you forgot the sarcasm tag at the end of your remark.

Some people need a religion whether they realize it or not.
 
Does it take a narcissistic person to accomplish what he did?

Honestly, I believe it does. I don't follow Jobs like many seem to, it's almost as though that is a lot of people's God. However, it's my opinion that Apple does as well as it does because of Jobs' personality. There is genuine concern for what may happen when he dies. I understand it, I don't think it will be the demise of Apple but it will change a few things no doubt.

As far as Apple trying to suppress the article, that is the douche bag move I've come to appreciate from Apple.
 
Sorry to be so blunt but the truth hurts: Bill Gates has benefited humanity much more than Steve Jobs ever has and ever will.

Yes, Bill G. made billions by ripping off the work of others and through illegal business practices and was "kind" enough to turn much of it back to the people (while keeping plenty left in the tank to keep him filthy rich for the rest of his existence). Wow, what a saint. :rolleyes:

Sounds a lot like the drug cartel bosses in Columbia that build soccer stadiums (named after themselves, of course) in poor communities and are loved by the people for it.

One could say that by the way technology has been stifled by Microsoft over the years, combined with the resource-sucking (in man-hours) monster that Windows is, Gates has done far more to harm humanity than Steve Jobs could ever dream of.

Bill Gates does not impress me in the least.
 
Ugh, can't stand this sort of fanboy rhetoric. It's one thing to be a fan of and use Apple products(which most sane people here are) it's quite another to anoint SJ your personal deity. I really hope you forgot the sarcasm tag at the end of your remark.

Methinks you need to re-calibrate your sarcasm sensor...
 
Yes, Bill G. made billions by ripping off the work of others and through illegal business practices and was "kind" enough to turn much of it back to the people (while keeping plenty left in the tank to keep him filthy rich for the rest of his existence). Wow, what a saint. :rolleyes:

Sounds a lot like the drug cartel bosses in Columbia that build soccer stadiums (named after themselves, of course) in poor communities and are loved by the people for it.

One could say that by the way technology has been stifled by Microsoft over the years, combined with the resource-sucking (in man-hours) monster that Windows is, Gates has done far more to harm humanity than Steve Jobs could ever dream of.

Bill Gates does not impress me in the least.

I love this place. Pure entertainment from every thread.
 
One could say that by the way technology has been stifled by Microsoft over the years, combined with the resource-sucking (in man-hours) monster that Windows is, Gates has done far more to harm humanity than Steve Jobs could ever dream of.

Bill Gates does not impress me in the least.
Troll much? Employing lots of people is doing harm to humanity? However they earned their money, Gates has done more charitable work than Jobs, which is to say Jobs has done none.

On the subject of Jobs being essential to Apple. That may be, but I believe Apple's profits would be greater if Jobs had a smaller role. When Apple was small it was ok to be so controlling but now that it has significant market share they can't stay in their closed garden anymore, customer preference wise and federal regulation wise.
 
That article may be old but it's even higher numbers now. The Gates have done incredible things with their money.

Microsoft and Apple aside, Jobs has almost no philanthropy to speak of.

Sorry to be so blunt but the truth hurts: Bill Gates has benefited humanity much more than Steve Jobs ever has and ever will.


Microsoft and Apple aside, Jobs has almost no philanthropy to speak of.

So what. I care about the products Apple produces, not whether SJ is trying to save the whales.

Sorry to be so blunt but the truth hurts: Bill Gates has benefited humanity much more than Steve Jobs ever has and ever will.

That may very well be true . . . if you take Windows and Windows-related products out of the mix. Ditto for the Zune, Windows Mobile . . .
 
Yes, Bill G. made billions by ripping off the work of others and through illegal business practices and was "kind" enough to turn much of it back to the people (while keeping plenty left in the tank to keep him filthy rich for the rest of his existence). Wow, what a saint. :rolleyes:

Sounds a lot like the drug cartel bosses in Columbia that build soccer stadiums (named after themselves, of course) in poor communities and are loved by the people for it.

One could say that by the way technology has been stifled by Microsoft over the years, combined with the resource-sucking (in man-hours) monster that Windows is, Gates has done far more to harm humanity than Steve Jobs could ever dream of.

Bill Gates does not impress me in the least.

I'd admire Bill Gate's sense of philanthropy if it weren't for one 'minor' caveat. Most of the money/grants/etc. given out by the foundation is either in the form of, or conditioned upon the purchase of windows licenses and other Microsoft products. I admire the will to give so much, but it hardly seems 'giving' when you require most of what you give to be given back.
 
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