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I'm not talking smack about the Gates Foundation. I'm talking smack about Bill Gates.
Ballmer Should Be Our Role Model...Not Jobs
For chrissake, why not profile a truly successful CEO who runs the biggest SW company in the world!!!
We Seattlites worship the "Ball"......
For chrissake, why not profile a truly successful CEO who runs the biggest SW company in the world!!!
We Seattlites worship the "Ball"......
Possibly the worst analogy ever. If I know what a "Corvette" is, and I know what "red" is, as a consumer I can easily want a "red Corvette", even if such an option is not currently in existence. The entire field of consumer market research is based on this premise.
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You have provided no argument to rebut.
LOL!
Sigh....double facepalm.
Maybe you would have seen the argument if you weren't so busy trying to ignore it
. LOL!Then again, considering your apparent inability to read the forum rules, particularly the part about double posting (and the "edit" button), it comes as no big surprise.
Precisely my thought. I guess it's that small-man mentality of caring so much about whether a public figure, be it an actor or the president of the US, is someone you'd like to have a beer and a jolly good time with. Being someone you'd like to have a beer with is about the third from the bottom on the list of requirement for important jobs in the world, which means it's pretty much irrelevant.
Having to care so much about such irrelevant stuff is one of the very reasons why none of them can ever be a Steve Jobs no matter how many times they reincarnate. That's just a sign of desperate mediocrity, and precisely one of the forces to drag you down into ordinariness, which Jobs has mentioned quite a few times in his speeches before.
I'm not really trashing the journalist here. It's just his job to try to draw attention. I'm rather trashing those who think this kind of articles are in any shape or form important, and the type of people who get somehow "upset" when they find out Jobs is arrogant, or whatever it is.
They are not worthy to write about Glorious Leader. Stone the media that does not praise and glorify him.
If you had made an intelligent argument, it would have been easier to rebut. Since you didn't, here goes anyway:
I never said they haven't. I criticized the way that money was made and the nature of the man donating it. If I rob a bank and donate 80% of my loot to charity, does that make me a hero? Apparently by your definition, yes.
You have absolutely nothing to base this claim on. Have you seen his tax return? Me neither. I have no idea what Jobs donates money to. Has he had a big public spectacle of a charity? No. At least not yet. Perhaps when he retires, we'll see the Steve Jobs Foundation. Until then, he's busy running a company and dealing with personal health issues.
I don't believe Jobs lives in a $150 million house (like Gates), and he wears the same freaking clothes every single day, so painting Jobs as some kind of gluttonous materialist is silly at best. You fail on this point. Hard.
How can your personal prediction of the future qualify as "truth?" It can't, of course.
Another fail. *face palm*
Case closed.
"His customer-relations motto is from Henry Ford"
Wrong. That had and has nothing to do with "customer-relations"; rather, it has everything to do with product development and, as the Think Different add so succinctly puts it: "They push the human race forward."
If, however, the person being quoted wishes to talk about "customer-relations", let's have a conversation about how AppleCare has fixed and/or replaced Macs for me...for free. Now that's customer relations.
At the risk of being labeled a fanboy, let's remind everyone why Apple is such a great company (and if this fits Steve, he can wear it with pride):
Here's to the crazy ones.
The misfits.
The rebels.
The troublemakers.
The round pegs in the square holes.
The ones who see things differently.
They're not fond of rules.
And they have no respect for the status quo.
You can praise them, disagree with them, quote them,
disbelieve them, glorify or vilify them.
About the only thing you can't do is ignore them.
Because they change things.
They invent. They imagine. They heal.
They explore. They create. They inspire.
They push the human race forward.
Maybe they have to be crazy.
How else can you stare at an empty canvas and see a work of art?
Or sit in silence and hear a song that's never been written?
Or gaze at a red planet and see a laboratory on wheels?
We make tools for these kinds of people.
While some see them as the crazy ones,
we see genius.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think
they can change the world...
...are the ones who do.
Wrong. That had and has nothing to do with "customer-relations"; rather, it has everything to do with product development and, as the Think Different add so succinctly puts it: "They push the human race forward."
If, however, the person being quoted wishes to talk about "customer-relations", let's have a conversation about how AppleCare has fixed and/or replaced Macs for me...for free. Now that's customer relations.
At the risk of being labeled a fanboy, let's remind everyone why Apple is such a great company (and if this fits Steve, he can wear it with pride):
Here's to the crazy ones.
The misfits.
The rebels.
The troublemakers.
The round pegs in the square holes.
The ones who see things differently.
They're not fond of rules.
And they have no respect for the status quo.
You can praise them, disagree with them, quote them,
disbelieve them, glorify or vilify them.
About the only thing you can't do is ignore them.
Because they change things.
They invent. They imagine. They heal.
They explore. They create. They inspire.
They push the human race forward.
Maybe they have to be crazy.
How else can you stare at an empty canvas and see a work of art?
Or sit in silence and hear a song that's never been written?
Or gaze at a red planet and see a laboratory on wheels?
We make tools for these kinds of people.
While some see them as the crazy ones,
we see genius.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think
they can change the world...
...are the ones who do.
No. You are the one who made that declaration. Looks like it it just you. Apparently the public agrees with me (as demonstrated by their pocketbooks when it comes to MS) and so do regulators as there seem to be no ethics probes in him.
May I suggest wearing one of these? It should protect us from your loony ramblings as well as you from....yourself.
And neither do you. He has given nothing. He just takes. He stole from Bill Gates. He stole from Microsoft as a company. Hell, he even took a liver.
Yeah, after all that stealing he did have some successes (so would a bank robber after stealing cash, right
) That was then. This is now. Apple doesn't need him now. The man is nothing. Conclusion: You fail. *Facepalm*
@ Bubba - Hahahahahha. How dare one of us talk bad to Dear Leader. He will stick all his lawyers on us. The kool-aid is as bad as the election.
Jobs reminds me of Castro. Nobody knows his health, hell he may even be dead already.
I met Steve Jobs at Macworld a few years ago. I found him to be a very nice, even humble person, not the egomaniac they are trying to make him out to be. I told him we support him and his efforts to push great innovation. He was very gracious.
He may push hard, he may be a perfectionist, but look at what they accomplished!
Machead33
Walt Disney demanded perfection and was terrible to work with as well.
I don't doubt all of the Jobs bashing being true. Unfortunately, that's what it takes to promote innovation within a company. You NEED to be controlling. Without that edge, you'll end up like everyone else on the business block.
Steve Jobs is this generation's Walt Disney. They both see things in their own way, are great business men, focus on the "details" and have built their company from the ground up...using them-self as the company's spokesperson.
It really is no shock to me that Apple's closest business partner is Disney. They are alike in many ways.
In terms of influence on popular culture, I would hazard the opinion that Steve Jobs is this generation's Walt Disney.
I think the Times article strains a little too hard to get worked up over Jobs' perceived "failings" as a person, at the expense of credibility. If, as a journalist, you must resort to quoting "internet babble" as your source, then you clearly aren't too concerned with quaint notions of objectivity.
I think the Times article strains a little too hard to get worked up over Jobs' perceived "failings" as a person, at the expense of credibility. If, as a journalist, you must resort to quoting "internet babble" as your source, then you clearly aren't too concerned with quaint notions of objectivity.
Jobs is a primarily a sociopath. The narcissism goes along with the territory. And before you argue that he isn't a murderer, please educate yourself on the levels of sociopathy. The vast majority of sociopaths never physically harm anyone. He is obviously not suffering from the most severe form but he is a sociopath nonetheless.
Really, I didn't intend to repeat what you posted. I was typing my post at the same exact time.
Weird.
Typical of the media. They know nothing, but they hear something and run and tell everyone, all hyper. And the media looks like idiots. Somehow, they don't seem to realize that the general public thinks the media are idiots. Hmmm. Maybe someone should tell them.
Odd, since pretty much every government on the planet has sued Microsoft for their weasel-ish business practices.
I bet this fantasy world in which you live is really nice. Does it have tangerine trees and marmalade skies?
I'm not what I would call a "Steve Jobs fan." I'm definitely what you would call "not a Bill Gates fan." That said, your claims about Jobs are slanderous, ridiculous, and reek of stupidity.
Go back to watching your Steve Ballmer YouTube videos.
This article was so poorly written and out to do one thing, attack apple and Jobs. They don't even have the correct information in the article so why should I take it seriously? how do I know if the rest of it is correct? just a bunch of pissed off vista users is all they are.
You can't have a beer with Jobs though. He just received a liver transplant, remember?
How about his military? His fighter planes would look really cool and would be easy to fly, thus saving training costs. They would be very expensive, but not be very fast. "The flying experience is more important than speed. Enemy pilots will want to fly them, too, and will defect to our side so we won't have to actually fight" Steve screamed to the cowering Minister of Propaganda.
Seriously, Job's man of mystery act gets him more coverage than he would get if he had a normal relationship with the media. A couple of friendly press conferences, a little humor, some aw-shucks self-parody and it would all go away. And, have a barbeque with a limited supply of vegetables and lots of alcohol.
Humor, free food and drink, a slap on the back and it all goes away. Obviously, he doesn't want it to.
Disney actually produced things himself at times. Jobs has no such skills. He has always relied on using other people's work. On his own, he's just a good salesman.
I've known Generals and CEOs. A lot are very controlling, but the best are also polite about it. Losing one's temper, like Jobs is infamous for, is usually seen as a weakness.