Very succinctly put. The fact that you quickly got so many down votes should be an indicator to you that many here are not interested in thoughtful and well-articulated arguments. I am glad to see that at least some others "get it", though.
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Very succinctly put. The fact that you quickly got so many down votes should be an indicator to you that many here are not interested in thoughtful and well-articulated arguments. I am glad to see that at least some others "get it", though.
And a lot of people, myself included, have nothing but disdain for the intellectually stunted, moral pygmies whose perspective is both simultaneously so provincial and myopic that they cannot tell the difference between moral outrage and jealousy.
I feel no jealousy of any sort towards these people. Does it disgust me? Yes, but not because I want the money for myself, but because I think it should go to those in need, and I know how much need there is out there.
I do not happen to be someone in need, coming from an upper middle class background. But that doesn't mean I believe that the manner in which money is handled in this country is in any way fair, because it is not.
A great deal of what one has is rooted very directly in what one was given; this does not simply mean money, it also means opportunity and education.
Being well-off-- or even being of a mind that whatever one has obtained legally, one deserves-- in no way purchases you a pedestal upon which to stand and reign judgment upon others who feel differently than you do. Especially when your entire basis for condescension is predicated upon a straw man.
Yes, in your world their hard earned money should immediately be taken from them by the government to pay for FREE Housing, a FREE Automobile, and FREE Health Insurance for others who never applied themselves to get ahead or are just not interested in employment...
Do you think that these successful executives (who you are obviously SOOO Jealous of) didn't work for years getting the proper training, education, and experience through lesser jobs to get where they are?
A employee is worth to an employer whatever the two of them agree to. I don't need you, a union, congress, another member of this board, a politician, or any other person on this planet to dictate that my value is. That's between ME and MY client (or employer). Period!
Best post in this thread. I know you are aware it mostly falls on deaf ears.
You are my hero tho.
Judging from your horrific mangling of the English language, I have my doubts about what you're capable of making.
Well Sir, we'll agree to disagree. MY America is the Land of Opportunity for everyone. Opportunity does not mean guarantee. Those in "need" have the same opportunity as everyone else.
If you don't like it perhaps you should relocate to a another country where "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is the economic motto.
Oh yes, totally deserved. I know people that work more than 75 hours a week (well over 100, in some cases) just to feed their kids and pay the bills... but these guys working 30ish at white collar jobs are getting WELL-deserved millions.
Do you seriously believe anyone of the Apple SVPs on this list clock in less than 40 hours a week?
So Apple profits should go those in need??
You are not a left wing whack job, are you?
Bit sickening.
Oh yes, totally deserved. I know people that work more than 75 hours a week (well over 100, in some cases) just to feed their kids and pay the bills... but these guys working 30ish at white collar jobs are getting WELL-deserved millions.
Again, the difference between working hard and doing hard work.
Anyone can work hard. Not everyone can do hard work.
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Honestly? Yes. When it comes to generating ideas and going through paperwork, a great amount can be accomplished in a very short amount of time. Assuming you're in any way intelligent, of course.
You know I could really care less about what "doubts" you have? I'm not trying to impress anyone with my views. If you would have actually read my previous posts, you'd know that to be the case.
Obviously you have doubts about your own capabilities since you, in place of an intelligent and topical debate, waste your time playing grammar cop on a message board.
No, obviously Apple's profits shouldn't be given away. But they should be rerouted in other ways rather than given to top execs.
I'm left wing... last time I checked, I was as sane as anyone, though.
And bpaluzzi.. your inability to spot grammatical and semantic errors is in no way the same thing as their nonexistence.
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Explain it to me then. Slowly, like I'm five. Explain to me exactly how it works, preferably with evidence to back up your claims.
Of course, you won't, because you actually have no idea... only your own suppositions of how the world works.. or ought to work, according to your beliefs.
Yeah, I totally missed two errors there. MacSince1990 was correct. I replaced words that I "thought" I saw.
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OK, I get it now. If one is so bold, or arrogant, to disagree with your arguments, they either:
a) simply don't understand your argument, or
b) have been brainwashed to maintain a perspective and opinion that differs from the correct one.. that being yours.
It's amusing, as I think back to the distant college freshman philosophy course, where the classic argument on the existence vs. non-existence of God is waged every year. One of the most famous 'pro' arguments goes something like:
"If you don't believe in God, it is because you don't understand the definition of God".
Hard to wrap any logical comeback around such an inwardly convoluted, Klein Bottle statement. A lot like yours re "your response is wrong because you don't understand my argument".
Wow. Nice visual stereotype. Now who's demonstrating the "brainwashed by the press" malady? (Probably the NY Times!)
Padme, you were right!
While I expected this thread to be rife with the musings of apologists for the elite, I must admit I was a bit surprised by their vociferous defense of the very people who exploit them! ;P
It reminded me of a quote from Star Wars:
"So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause."
While I expected this thread to be rife with the musings of apologists for the elite, I must admit I was a bit surprised by their vociferous defense of the very people who exploit them! ;P
It reminded me of a quote from Star Wars:
"So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause."
The Scandinavian model works well in such countries because they are very homogeneous societies compared to others. As a result, the wealth is shared amongst people of the same ilk. One doesn't have to worry about the money mainly being given to a single ethnic/racial/whatever group. The money is going to a group that every citizen could easily slip into.
Second, I'm sure a lot has to do with governmental efficiency. Maybe it is different in Norway or Sweden, but I just can't trust the U.S. government to spend/distribute my tax money in an efficiently, useful, & manner. I speak for myself, but it may apply to many others, but "wealthy people" (I use this term loosely) do not disagree with donating money to charity (I do so regularly & proudly), they just don't want to place their money into a high inefficient and nebulous system. I would be thrilled if instead of paying taxes, we could donate the same amount of money to an honest cause.
You know, people have been saying things like "the youth have been getting worse.." ... "the thing that's ruining society today is...." since the time of Plato. Seriously, we have quotes of people (Plato included) saying the same thing.
It rings a bit hollow thousands of years later. Our country is in the toilet.. but it isn't because of people like me.
I'll simplify it for you by taking out extraneous words to make the problems more obvious.
It should be "they". I'm not quite sure how you don't see that. There's another error but that would be nitpicking.
Well, i am Swede. Im not brought up thinking this type of thinking is evil. On the contrary, im brought up seeing the positive effects of it.