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Apple Backpedals, Puts "All Eligible Products" Back on EPEAT Environmental Registry
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It is a good thing, because most general consumers were about to stop buying Apple computers because of the lack of EPEAT certification. 
9.5/10 people probably have no idea what EPEAT even is.
9.5/10 people probably have no idea what EPEAT even is.
Yes, but only great companies admit to mistakes. And only the greatest companies rectify those mistakes. We can only hope Bob's successor has learned at his Master's knee and continues Bob's policies.
Yeah, you know what, I'm sorry, but Apple has had four color schemes during its lifetime; Rainbow, Gray-Glass, Black and White. None of these has, or ever will, include Green.
Given the Mac vs PC the vast majority don't buy Apple.
It can easily be seen that some Apple customers will be put off by the switch to completely proprietary hardware that is way over-priced.
I love how they made Bob apologize for Tim Cook's mistake.
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Is your comment even relevant??
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Is your comment even relevant??
Well, the EPEAT standards group has been working on updating the standard since 2011, and it is 'expected' to be finalized later this year, or nearly next year.
If this was *any* sort of power play on the part of Apple, I suspect it had to do with clearing a 'logjam' in the update process, by basically pointing out that if the standard wasn't updated, it *could* quickly become pointless, as new design capabilities meant following the current standard would become *much* more expensive than simply going without the certification.
The battery in the rMBP can be replaced with as little danger as the battery in any laptop. It involves a few screws, and the top-case, where most others don't, but that's *hardly* enough to put it in the 'OMG! Impossible!' range like iFixit claims. Likewise with any other part. Some involve replacing other components at the same time because they're part of the same package, but that's no different than being 'unable to replace the ethernet adapter' because it's built into the motherboard.
Agreed. People should stop being so wasteful and learn just the basics of how to repair or upgrade their Macs.
It is a good thing, because most general consumers were about to stop buying Apple computers because of the lack of EPEAT certification.
9.5/10 people probably have no idea what EPEAT even is.
So?
Most people think the EPA is akin to the Gestapo and can't tell you what was in the Kyoto Protocol. Most people still throw plastic bags in the garbage and eat at restaurants that use styrofoam. Most people still drive gas guzzlers and don't care.
Most people are ignorant fools, it's up to the few to help the many.
It is a good thing, because most general consumers were about to stop buying Apple computers because of the lack of EPEAT certification.
9.5/10 people probably have no idea what EPEAT even is.
Question is: How many products are bought by "people" and how many by "institutions" like universities, state departments, federal agencies, etc? If you receive federal or state funding for something (like universities do), you usually have to comply to their standards as well and that means 95% EPEAT cert. If universities don't have Macs, students are less likely to adopt them as well because if you as non-IT student have to do your CIS 101(or whatever their computer class is called), you want to not have to learn somthing on a machine irrelevant to you. So, the implications are bigger than you think if you are convinced that EPEAT does not have a significant impact.
I'm sure people do. As much as they do Apple. I'm also sure if one of those companies pulled all of their products out of a certification (whether it was energy, security, etc) and the press reported it - that people would care and talk about it too.
The real sad thing - is that most people don't care UNTIL there's a new story giving them a short reason to. A few days later - it's back to apathy.
Wasteful is one thing. If I buy a Mac, I simply cannot afford to replace it every time it breaks. I might buy a used one. Maybe 2 years old - just because I like MacOS ad the design. I simply cannot just throw it out if it breaks after one year - at least I don't want to. I would like to be able to repair it with "commonly accessable tools" - and pentalobe would not keep me from doing that. Glue with the risk of toxic flames on the other hand would.
It's another win for the Green Mafia. That said, knowing the current climate, and being a Bay Area company, what was Apple thinking pulling out in the first place? It's a bad business decision, because of course the Green Mafia would kick into action. If Apple can defy them, anyone can. Apple had no choice but to fall back in line. Even if all their products cannot qualify, they need to keep whatever they can in. That's just good business.
<Church Lady>Well, isn't that SPE-CIAL?</Church Lady>
I can appreciate Apple feeling like it doesn't want its hands tied around innovation, but on the other hand, they've been marketing pretty hard on the Green tip for a while now. So pulling out of EPEAT did seem a little dis-congruous with their overall message. Not that companies haven't engaged in that sort of thing since the dawn of time. But good on them for doing an about-face.
Though, I wonder if this just made Macs cost more or less over time?
I can appreciate Apple feeling like it doesn't want its hands tied around innovation, but on the other hand, they've been marketing pretty hard on the Green tip for a while now. So pulling out of EPEAT did seem a little dis-congruous with their overall message. Not that companies haven't engaged in that sort of thing since the dawn of time. But good on them for doing an about-face.
Though, I wonder if this just made Macs cost more or less over time?
OK lets see how long it takes the fans boys who where all for Apple opting out to suddenly praise Apple for changing its mind.
So predictable
So predictable
Who said it was a mistake?
Now you can correct me if I'm mistaken but isn't the new retina Macbook Pro not EPEAT certified?
Edit: Nevermind, just saw on Apple's site. It is.
Who says Apple is being wasteful? iFixit has their own agenda. They're not a neutral party completely unbiased. Oh and btw, most people aren't buying hybrid cars. But I think the planet will survive just fine.
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Way overpriced? Based on what?
This may well have been a move by Apple to get the ball rolling to finalize the updated standards that EPEAT was already working on, perhaps a bit of a wake-up call for EPEAT.
OTOH, if Apple had truly intended to withdraw and reversed its decision, then kudos to those who spoke up about this and made a difference.
OTOH, if Apple had truly intended to withdraw and reversed its decision, then kudos to those who spoke up about this and made a difference.
Apple stated their customers did. Read the article:
They just used the word "concern" - but that is political.