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Apple 'Battling' to Free Up iPhone Shipments as India Holds Up Imports From China
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You can make up whatever you want. That does not make it a fact. What allegedly PLA-involved company is exporting electronic components for cell phone assembly to India? What components are you talking about? Back up your statement with facts.
It is laughable that a US campaign against Chinese company is somewhat a proof of PLA involvement. US campaign against Huawei and ZTE is for constraining the technical lead of these companies and more broadly a part of the trade war/cold war. There were indeed no intentional security issues with Huawei or ZTE products other than they are Chinese companies and they are not totally in control of the US. They have been in 3G and 4G network equipments business for quite a while all over the world. You don't see any evidence that they build security flaws intentionally in their equipments.
Again, you keep mixing open source and security. Open source does not mean there is security loopholes. What evidence do you have that PLA implant backdoor in these components? Again, you are just making up stuff without providing evidence.
Global Times is a tabloid. It is not PLA. Plus, US having aircraft carriers at China's door step, in the name of freedom of navigation, does not seem to a be PLA threat to the US. It would be more convincing to allege a PLA threat if PLA is conducting naval exercise near US waters.
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Those are all your opinions not based on any fact, and are dangerous fear mongering.
Years ago everything was made in USA.
It will happen again, in fact, it's already happening again. Either complain and watch or be part of it.
I'm part of it and it's amazing.
The iPhone is well controlled by Apple to avoid any potential security issues and that is what Apple can easily explain to the Ministry of Commerce.
Here are some facts. The PLA has launched cyber attacks against Indian infrastructure and has hacked into US systems as well. The massive 2017 Equifax data breach of 100 million US users was done by the PLA. Equifax used open source systems. The 2015 US Office of Personnel Management (OPM) was hacked by the PLA. It contained data on ALL US government civilian employees.
US charges 4 members of Chinese military with Equifax hack
A federal grand jury has charged four members of the Chinese People's Liberation Army with hacking Equifax and stealing personal data and trade secrets in one of the largest hacks on record.
5.6 million fingerprints stolen in the biggest cyber attack in US history
The number is five times as many as previously thought
www.independent.co.uk
To underestimate the PLA and let it pass under the guise of free trade is a colossal mistake, we're already paying the price when CCP banned internal travel in China back in January, but allowed international travel. It let COVID-19 spread further and faster.
China, I should say PLA, is invading Indian territory and engaging in salami slicing all along its borders. Ladakh, Japan, and Spratly Islands. It is threatening the US by saying it will attack the US Navy. This is not just a trade dispute like with US and Japan in the 1980s. It is war by other means. Sun Tzu would be proud today.
The iPhone is well controlled by Apple to avoid any potential security issues and that is what Apple can easily explain to the Ministry of Commerce.
Here are some facts. The PLA has launched cyber attacks against Indian infrastructure and has hacked into US systems as well. The massive 2017 Equifax data breach of 100 million US users was done by the PLA. Equifax used open source systems. The 2015 US Office of Personnel Management (OPM) was hacked by the PLA. It contained data on ALL US government civilian employees.
US charges 4 members of Chinese military with Equifax hack
A federal grand jury has charged four members of the Chinese People's Liberation Army with hacking Equifax and stealing personal data and trade secrets in one of the largest hacks on record.www.cnn.com
5.6 million fingerprints stolen in the biggest cyber attack in US history
The number is five times as many as previously thought
To underestimate the PLA and let it pass under the guise of free trade is a colossal mistake, we're already paying the price when CCP banned internal travel in China back in January, but allowed international travel. It let COVID-19 spread further and faster.
China, I should say PLA, is invading Indian territory and engaging in salami slicing all along its borders. Ladakh, Japan, and Spratly Islands. It is threatening the US by saying it will attack the US Navy. This is not just a trade dispute like with US and Japan in the 1980s. It is war by other means. Sun Tzu would be proud today.
Your first equate open source to security. Now you equate open source to less control.Google can control what components it puts in its Pixel phones and can implement security restrictions on its OS. You may argue the security measure implemented in Android is not as good as those in iOS. But that's not because Android is open source. If Apple make iOS code open now, it does not necessarily make it less secure. Sure, Apple can argue its security measure is great. So does Samsung, so does Nokia, so does Sony, so does LG, so does Google. With an open source OS, you can even let people see what are implemented.
You first say PLA is involved in companies that manufacture electronic components with planted security flaws. I challenge you whether you have any evidence which companies, what components, and what incidence there are to back up your statement. Instead of providing evidence, you are now putting out US allegations that PLA involves in cyber attacks. Indian government has conducted cyber attacks. It does not mean components made by India companies contains security flaws. So again, which PLA involved companies are you talking about? What components are you talking about? What security flaw are you talking about?
Saying China banned internal travel but allowed international travel is another baseless allegation you made again. Again, what evidence do you have? Which country has stopped all its international outbound travel?
Border disputes, as its name suggests, is disputes. That means the two countries have different claims on who owns a certain piece of land. India says China invaded its land. China says India invaded its land. Modi even stated publicly that no one has entered India territory. Border disputes is hardly black and white. It needs to be resolved through diplomatic channels and through concessions and compromises. To take one side's statement as truth is biased.
What you cited is a Global Times article. A tabloid article is not a PLA statement. Again, it is laughable to claim PLA is threatening the US when US has aircraft carriers at China's door step.
You are basically putting out lies after lies without any direct proof. When challenged, you just change topic. Again, what PLA involved companies are exporting cell phone components with planted security flaws?
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Sure europe citizens are pleased to pay for their infrastructure.
But u probably don’t life here...
Open source when it involves Chinese companies is an invitation to trouble. These companies can’t be trusted based on past actions by the PLA, as linked earlier, which you’ve willfully dismissed.
Again, given military posturing around China’s borders and restoring territories as the CCP sees it by the end of the current 5 year plan, is another fact you’ve deliberately ignored.
Both the US and India are well within international norms to scrutinize Chinese imports as they see fit due to national security. The onus lies on you and CCP to prove otherwise in good faith.
You can keep spinning it. But you still cannot name which companies is PLA involved and which components have security flaw. You just keep making claim without any evidence. All you are saying is PLA is aggressive, thus India have national security concerns for Chinese imports of cell phone components. To support your claim, you need evidence that there are indeed evidence for security flaws in these components and these companies are somehow linked to PLA. You do not have evidence for either of these claims.
Of course each country can use national security as an excuse. That does not mean there is an actual national security issue. This is the issue we are talking about. Is India's action based on real security concern or is it a political move using security as an excuse?
There is no specific aims of resolve border disputes in the current 5 year plan. Again, you are using a lie as evidence.
To debate a policy issue, we need to use fact and logic, not baseless claims and fabricated lies. You are not engaging in this discussion in good faith. I am not going to engage in any further discussion here as you are just going to fabricate new claims.
You're not discussing in good faith and choose to support the PLA's claims under the excuse of free trade and open markets. You keep harping on evidence when it is plain as day.
Here is a list of companies that have direct PLA involvement:
Here is a report from the Financial Times about PLA's involvement in Chinese companies:
US targets companies with Chinese military ties
Pentagon compiles list of army-linked businesses to protect sensitive technologies
Here's another report that discusses the PLA and the Chinese telecom industry:
India and the US have the real security concerns about Chinese companies which have PLA involvement - particularly in the telecom sector. You can continue to call it baseless claims and fabricated lies, but there is just too much evidence available for public to see. Deliberately obfuscating the issue isn't going to help.