Apple 'Battling' to Free Up iPhone Shipments as India Holds Up Imports From China

[bigandtasty]

Based off your feelings? It will be MUCH more expensive and will effect the rest of the world's pricing.

Feelings? Truth is all iPhones should be made in the USA. Prices WILL go up, but we won't be at the mercy of others AND over time, prices may go down. Once those border walls are torn down and everyone in the world can just come on in to the US whenever they want and get that free health care, they'll be plenty of folks for those assembly positions.  should give them ALL jobs. There'll be some cheap labor there with just how overrun this country will be. Can't wait...

 

[steve333]

Good for India. Screw the commies

 

[0924487]

enjoy paying double for your next apple device

If you mean doubling the amount of zeros, then yes.
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Not really arguing with their decision to ban TikTok and WeChat, that was well deserved as those are notorious for their privacy abuses.

But one thing I really don't get is why they banned DuckDuckGo in India now. DDG has no ties with China (no employees there at all and they're banned there for refusing to censor searches). Considering the timing it is probably related to all these measures against China but I really don't see the link to China with DuckDuckGo.

India is only a democracy on paper.
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And what? Would sky be falling down? NO.

Market would find new price/volume level and things would go further. People would not dump phones every other year and keep it year or two longer. Apple cash hoards would be a bit reduced, China would be forced to manage its local economy other way as other produces would follow and would not be able to say more There would be no Christmas without us.

Globe would not stop spinning.

How would that be good for the shareholders? The #1 responsibility of any for-profit corporation is its shareholders.

 

[MacBH928]

China is problematic. Virus, tensions with neighboring countries, communism... Get out of there!

Its more like, why did you go in there in the first place?

Let's say you earn $100, and pay 10% tax, so you pay $10 in taxes.
Now, Big Corp earns $1000000 and pays 0.000011 % tax, so they pay $11 in taxes.

Technically they pay more taxes than you do, without actually paying taxes. Stupid, right?

I don't get the hate on Apple about taxes, its legal, its what the law tells them to do. Whats wrong?

 

[0924487]

China's Commerce Ministry said on Thursday that it hoped India would "correct its discriminatory actions against Chinese companies immediately,

the irony in this! how about you stop discrimination against your own people. Yes, Muslims are part of their country

Same with America Samoa and Guam. They are not even citizens of the US. At least Muslims get bonus points on university entrance exams and other perks in China.

 

[pearvsapple]

CCP is cancer at this point. Move your stuff out of China!

 

[coldwaves]

Based on the recent news from India, their inability to resolve a border conflict without executions and tortures, I have my doubts that that’s a good idea.

Good point. India does not have the infrastructure and human resources to be the world manufacture hub now. Policies such as banning the 59 apps lead to uncertain investment environment. That does not help build confidence in investors. Plus, policies like this do not always come without retaliation. To imagine that companies are going to just set up operation in India to avoid India government ban is wishful thinking.

 

[ericwn]

CCP is cancer at this point. Move your stuff out of China!

And where should the stuff be manufactured to the same or lesser cost, same quality and same ability to upscale and downscale the production operations?

 

[ericwn]

Same with America Samoa and Guam. They are not even citizens of the US. At least Muslims get bonus points on university entrance exams and other perks in China.

If I’m not mistaken Muslims get to see the now famous Chinese educational camps from the inside.

 

[Zwhaler]

enjoy paying double for your next apple device

To be fair, they kind of did that anyway over the last several years.

 

[macdos]

Radicalized Uigur muslims, not muslims in general, and not Hui muslims in particular. Consider it China's version of Guantanamo Bay.

(And no, there are not ”millions” of them, as your screwed media would have it. That is a highly sensationalized figure from the born-again Christian Adrian Zenz, based on extrapolation from a few interviews.)

If I’m not mistaken Muslims get to see the now famous Chinese educational camps from the inside.

 

[ericwn]

Radicalized Uigur muslims, not muslims in general, and not Hui muslims in particular. Consider it China's version of Guantanamo Bay.

(And no, there are not ”millions” of them, as your screwed media would have it. That is a highly sensationalized figure from the born-again Christian Adrian Zenz, based on extrapolation from a few interviews.)

Great, what an analogy to another shameful place without human rights. Sounds fitting that the Chinese would wanna build one for themselves and not let the US shame themselves alone.

 

[ericwn]

Great, what an analogy to another shameful place without human rights. Sounds fitting that the Chinese would wanna build one for themselves and not let the US shame themselves alone.

And I guess the party puts down the guidelines what makes them “radicalised”.

 

[macdos]

Just like GOP puts down what constitutes an "illegal combattant".

And I guess the party puts down the guidelines what makes them “radicalised”.

 

[ericwn]

Just like GOP puts down what constitutes an "illegal combattant".

CAll it what you will, a counterpart to Guantanamo Bay is just another human rights nightmare. It’s not a value a nation should be proud of. Rather the opposite.

John Oliver has now put the Chinese concentration camps in good context: its the biggest imprisonment for religious discrimination reasons since World War II. Disgusting practice.

 

[T-R-S]

Someday Tim Apple will pull his head out of his ass and make product in the USA.

No problem then that iPhone is going to cost $3000.00 instead
The federal government has wrecked the US manufacturing of home appliances by raising tariffs and imposing quotas on Chinese aluminum. Seems like a good idea huh? Now America companies like GE, Maytag, Figidare and others cannot get enough aluminum to manufacture appliances. The American aluminum industry can't meet the US demand.
SO what happens then? Chinese appliances are cheaper and easier to find. Thus putting US workers on unemployment.
That's what happens when you put a real estate salesman who likes to play golf all the time in charge of the federal gov't.
You can't take a simplistic view on a global supply chain because a paper clip in the wrong spot can cause the whole thing to collapse.

 

[Tech198]

Make the stuff in the USA! And NO, it is not that much more expensive. And Apple, pay your taxes.

Apple pay my taxes in Australia??... you gotta be kidding......

 

[MacCurry]

Apple can help in this to explain to the commerce ministry in India, that unlike Android phones, iPhone does not have malicious firmware and software installed on them which could be a national security threat. The fear in India is that phones assembled and or finished electronic components coming from China have serious security flaws intentionally designed in them.

 

[macdos]

Modi will then ask Cook who Edward Snowden is, and why he is in refuge in Russia. Cook will tell Modi that America + Five Eyes have been doing this for as long as anyone can remember, but that it is different when we do it. Not that we know that China is doing it, but why shouldn't they be as bad as us?

Modi will perhaps also ask why a closed source iOS is to be preferred to an open source Android operating system. In the end, Modi will opt for Samsung phones with Android. Or make his own phones, the Deva line.

Apple can help in this to explain to the commerce ministry in India, that unlike Android phones, iPhone does not have malicious firmware and software installed on them which could be a national security threat. The fear in India is that phones assembled and or finished electronic components coming from China have serious security flaws intentionally designed in them.

 

[coldwaves]

Apple can help in this to explain to the commerce ministry in India, that unlike Android phones, iPhone does not have malicious firmware and software installed on them which could be a national security threat. The fear in India is that phones assembled and or finished electronic components coming from China have serious security flaws intentionally designed in them.

This is utter BS. It is purely a political move by the Indian government. It has nothing to do with national security. Chinese phones have been in Indian market for a while. There's no shred of evidence for intentional security flaws targeted at India.

Your statement here has no logic. You are saying that Apple can explain to Indian government that its components from China have no security flaws while at the same time saying components from China all have security flaws. Don't you see the inconsistency in your own statement?

 

[MacCurry]

This is utter BS. It is purely a political move by the Indian government. It has nothing to do with national security. Chinese phones have been in Indian market for a while. There's no shred of evidence for intentional security flaws targeted at India.

Your statement here has no logic. You are saying that Apple can explain to Indian government that its components from China have no security flaws while at the same time saying components from China all have security flaws. Don't you see the inconsistency in your own statement?

That's the risk. Malicious code in firmware which can be activated via an open source OS (Android) is a possibility, whereas iOS is closed. The PLA have shown belligerence against Taiwan, Japan, the South China Sea and northern India, Bhutan and Tibet. In the last few weeks the PLA have been conducting DoS attacks against Indian infrastructure. There is reason to be concerned.

 

[coldwaves]

That's the risk. Malicious code in firmware which can be activated via an open source OS (Android) is a possibility, whereas iOS is closed. The PLA have shown belligerence against Taiwan, Japan, the South China Sea and northern India, Bhutan and Tibet. In the last few weeks the PLA have been conducting DoS attacks against Indian infrastructure. There is reason to be concerned.

Open source only means that the software code is freely available. Open source and security are two different things. Plus, India does not import cell phone components from PLA.

 

[Fzang]

Yes, I agree, Stupid, you are!

Apple’s average corporate tax rate has been always around 26%, while Amazon’s is 0%. What’s your average income tax rate? I bet it’s lower than 26%.

Funny that you ask. I think it’s around 40%.

 

[MacCurry]

Open source only means that the software code is freely available. Open source and security are two different things. Plus, India does not import cell phone components from PLA.

The PLA is involved in Chinese industry and India, just like the US, imports electronic components from Chinese companies that have PLA involvement. If what you said was true, there would be no issue with Huawei or ZTE for 5G technologies. Open source security is a constant battle. Companies in the west following ethical standards is one thing. For the CCP and PLA it means an opportunity to gain access through a back door. In the past few years, there have been several security breaches involving open source software and hardware. I agree that iOS and Mac OS are subject to security breaches, but they are much better than the rest.

The US has to think very carefully about using China as their global manufacturing source. The PLA is threatening the US explicitly. China has wide selection of anti-aircraft carrier weapons at South China Sea: experts

 

[0924487]

If I’m not mistaken Muslims get to see the now famous Chinese educational camps from the inside.

That's just for rocket men Muslims, China still tries to educate them to live. We just kill them with drone strikes etc.
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CCP is cancer at this point. Move your stuff out of China!

That's what media want you to believe. If you have lived there, or even in Singapore etc., you know how brainwashing American media is.