leesweet
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For those of us that bought two, excellent idea! 🙂 Seriously, the remote price is a bit much. Has to be something besides Apple Tax. Speaker and Mic? Did iFixit see anything special in it?
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Apple Begins Accepting Online Orders for New Apple TV
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laurim
macrumors 68000
I'll be double pedantic with you 🙂 DPI is a printing term and actually is NOT interchangeable with ppi if you really want to be accurate. Unfortunately, over time people have conflated the two terms so many people say dpi when they mean ppi. But if you look at Photoshop, image resolution is measured in pixels per inch or pixels per cm. In printing, a dot could be comprised of multiple pixels-worth of information, depending on the screen used to print.
The "p" in 720p and 1080p stands for "progressive" instead of interlaced.
Monitor resolution is usually measured as "dot pitch" which is the distance between light pixels. Dot pitch for an 1080p tv depends on the size of the screen since the number of pixels (1920X1080) stays the same.
Back on topic, I ordered my 32gig TV this morning and look forward to some home automation apps to come out. And looking forward to not having to check Netflix before I rent anything on iTunes.
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The price of the Apple TV converts from US$149 excl. sales tax at say a rate of US$0.7/A$1 plus GST to be about A$234 which means about A$35 of "cost of doing business in Australia tax" - being about 15%. Sooo.... an iPad Pro LTE128GB would be US$1079 (plus sales tax) and end up being I expect A$1949...
It's not even the exchange rate its profit driven, for example look at similarly priced products and compare each country...
US store ATV 64gb $199 iPod touch 16gb $199 Beats Solo2 $199.95
AU store ATV 64gb $349 iPod touch 16gb $279 Beats Solo2 $259.95
Where does the extra $80/90 come from, price gouging!
ejrizo
macrumors 6502
one can also hold down the select on an app and move it around on the screen, re-order your apps... there are a lot of gorilla tricks with the apple tv, can't wait to find all the new ones
ksujoel
macrumors 65816
And since it's a digital signal I would assume there wouldn't be any noticeable video or audio decline?
You cannot pair 2 of the "SIRI remotes" to the same Apple TV for multiplayer gaming. The Apple TV only allows 1 SIRI remote to be paired with it at a time. Therefore, in order to play multiplayer games the 2nd person would need to use a MFi controller or the Remote app on their iPhone. Buying a 2nd SIRI remote gets you nothing more than a backup if your original one breaks.
zakarhino
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Watch Cook fans defend this. I would say "Unbelievable" but then again, it's Apple.
Yeah I knew it was going to expensive in Australia, but not that expensive. I am going to wait.
Going to hold off until I see some apps that make it worth while for me, which will be hard considering that I have an mac mini next to the old gen aTV.
In all honesty the old ($109) to new ($269) somewhat takes away the appetite to upgrade as a matter of course.
In all honesty the old ($109) to new ($269) somewhat takes away the appetite to upgrade as a matter of course.
fitshaced
macrumors 68000
Yes I know that but a better exchange rate means lower Australian prices. They have been affordable and some way reasonable up to the middle of this year. It's the exchange rate that's pushed them this high. 2 grand for an iPad means I won't be buying the Pro.
The US prices do not include sales tax whereas the Aus prices include GST.
So - updates below:
US store ATV 64gb US$218 iPod touch 16gb $218 Beats Solo2 $218
AU store ATV 64gb A$349 iPod touch 16gb $279 Beats Solo2 $259.95
US$218 is about A$312 at the moment (you can thank the RBA for that) so the gouge is still there but close to $30/$40 rather than $90. And there are lots of reasons for the cost of business being higher here than the US.
And Apple are not the only ones - Polo Ralph Lauren Polo Shirt - A$150 average - US price US$90 - converted as above $141.
That's what happens when you live in a rich country, businesses will price accordingly so they can too share in the spoils...
"According to Seek’s annual Salary Review, the average salary in Australia in the 12 months to June 2014 is $79,767. But’s that’s down 3.2 per cent from the previous year."
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You did consider the VAT, the difference is not as high as you think.
The exchange rate is what introduces the biggest bump and well, Australia's economy sucks, what can you do ;-).
Wow! I feel dumb now. Had my Apple TV 3 since day one. Had no idea that you could do that. Well at least I know how to now for the rest of this week before the new one comes in hahaha.
Senseotech
macrumors 6502a
Can't tell if mine was actually charged or if the pending charge is the initial auth. I forget, Apple hits the card for a small amount ($0.00 or $1.00), then the actual amount when its about to ship, right?
simonmet
Cancelled
For those disappointed in the Australian price (as I am) I think I can explain what's going on here.
Apple are hedging their bets with exchange rates and predicting a further drop in the value of the AU to US exchange rate over the coming year. They have to because Apple has a policy of stable prices which are generally fixed for each model they sell and are rarely changed unless they have to to maintain comparability with other markets, as happened recently.
Currency fluctuations can be advantageous or disadvantageous for consumers. In Australia we had a good deal for a while as the dollar declined from being higher than USD to significantly less with Apple's prices stuck assuming the higher value, but those days are now over for at least the foreseeable future.
Unfortunately for Australian consumers we are paying more now because of Apple's predictions. But recent evidence and predictions have changed from the idea that the AUD rate will decline further towards US 60 cents or less to one of stabilisation at US 70 to 75 cents and possibly even move back towards US 80 cents. If that happens Australian consumers lose out.
In the end you have to blame the complete ridiculousness of floated currency markets whose values are based on pure speculation and little else. It's ridiculous that a large national currency from a stable country like Australia can double and halve in value compared to the US and elsewhere in as little as 3 or 4 years. This is pure greed and capitalism at work and you have to blame politicians for creating and supporting a system that does this and only benefits the very rich. In a world of increasing globalisation the concept arbitrary currency diversity makes little sense and is increasingly a burden. It used to be that we had more global currencies by way of gold and silver, then they created artificial national currencies that are inherently valueless, less stable and require more trust than the old gold and silver standards.
Apple are hedging their bets with exchange rates and predicting a further drop in the value of the AU to US exchange rate over the coming year. They have to because Apple has a policy of stable prices which are generally fixed for each model they sell and are rarely changed unless they have to to maintain comparability with other markets, as happened recently.
Currency fluctuations can be advantageous or disadvantageous for consumers. In Australia we had a good deal for a while as the dollar declined from being higher than USD to significantly less with Apple's prices stuck assuming the higher value, but those days are now over for at least the foreseeable future.
Unfortunately for Australian consumers we are paying more now because of Apple's predictions. But recent evidence and predictions have changed from the idea that the AUD rate will decline further towards US 60 cents or less to one of stabilisation at US 70 to 75 cents and possibly even move back towards US 80 cents. If that happens Australian consumers lose out.
In the end you have to blame the complete ridiculousness of floated currency markets whose values are based on pure speculation and little else. It's ridiculous that a large national currency from a stable country like Australia can double and halve in value compared to the US and elsewhere in as little as 3 or 4 years. This is pure greed and capitalism at work and you have to blame politicians for creating and supporting a system that does this and only benefits the very rich. In a world of increasing globalisation the concept arbitrary currency diversity makes little sense and is increasingly a burden. It used to be that we had more global currencies by way of gold and silver, then they created artificial national currencies that are inherently valueless, less stable and require more trust than the old gold and silver standards.
ParanoidDroid
macrumors 6502
It's a nice box, but not for €179. That is; a HOAX! 😛
Apple needs to come down with its pricing model. I'm not paying almost 180 euros for some fancy parallax UI effects and poorly working Siri ad-on. That's insane. There are simply no USPs which would justify that price tag. I feel that we are being ripped off in Europe by Apple. It's just not a fair deal. The Apple tax went nuts.
Apple needs to come down with its pricing model. I'm not paying almost 180 euros for some fancy parallax UI effects and poorly working Siri ad-on. That's insane. There are simply no USPs which would justify that price tag. I feel that we are being ripped off in Europe by Apple. It's just not a fair deal. The Apple tax went nuts.
They dinged mine for $18(?) when I placed the order and then $161.96 like 2 minutes ago.
