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Apple Begins Seeding Mac OS X 10.6.1 for Testing

I have been using SL for a week, the machine boots and shuts off very significantly quicker, applications launch in WAY less time.

I am very pleased with this update, only problem that i have is that i can't activate go into sleep (by moving cursor to upper left corner) while in expose, however I can do it while i am not using expose, no big deal, but it didn't do this in leopard.
 
mobi said:
Still holding out for a seamless transition!
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You're going to be holding out indefinitely then. (Or you'll be working on the enterprise with VERY, VERY expensive hardware and said software only running on a VERY, VERY limited subset of hardware. And even then... you'll be holding out.)

Software updates break things. There's no way for any company to test all third party hardware and software. It's hard enough to get your own stuff running. So, you get it to the point that's it's "good enough" then unleash it on early adopters.

I know a lot of people sit around this forum and say, "Apple is making me its beta tester." And the answer, of course, is, "No, you're making yourself a beta tester by buying 0 day software. Deal with it." If you want "shiny" then upgrade early and deal with it. If you want things to be easier... wait 6 - 12 months before adoption.

With that said, I bought a family pack and have loaded it up on three machines thus far (soon to be a 4th) and while I have minor quibbles I've found it to be more responsive than Leopard and like a lot of the small fixes like an animation when a wireless connection is being searched for. Macports is broken all over the place but... I've gotten around all of that.
 
acurafan said:
no, it shows they should not have rolled it out, and make us suckers *cough* ginea pigs *cough* regression test until it's correct.
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Oh please. I get so sick of this. NO ONE forced anyone to upgrade and most of the particularly smug among you are people who seem to know initial releases have issues but still can't help themselves.

About the only people I feel for at all are people who buy Macs right now, but that said, my first Mac came out right when Tiger did (it was preinstalled with 10.3 and I upgraded it right then and there) and never had an issue. If you're technical enough to know you need certain third party items or whatever, you've kept up with this and have no excuse for being blindsided and SL is simply not going to be an issue for the trendy douches and old people who frequent the Apple store. iTunes, iPhoto and Safari run fine.
 
xeex said:
Firstly. I stopped using tiger once Leo came out, secondly I hate wintel with passion but I have to express my dissatisfaction with late outings of apple.
I am not happy with the fact they are subliminally moving their efforts to iphone and tablet.
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As someone else already asked: Have you ever tried clean installing Leopard or SL without re-importing your preferences and user data to see how it runs?

Because my two Macs run like a ****in' dream and have ever since 10.5.4 or so.
cult hero said:
Oh please. I get so sick of this. NO ONE forced anyone to upgrade and most of the particularly smug among you are people who seem to know initial releases have issues but still can't help themselves.
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Seriously. There's a reason my copy of Snow Leopard is still in its shrink-wrap; I learned my lesson with 10.5.0.
 
Am I the only one not having any issues? In fact everything is working a lot better.
 
gibbz said:
+1. Or you can always edit /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.Boot.plist to make it look like this:
Code: 
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyLis
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
    <key>Kernel</key>
    <string>mach_kernel</string>
    <key>Kernel Flags</key>
    <string>arch=x86_64</string>
</dict>
</plist>

If your system is able, it will then boot into 64-bit mode every time with no need to hold the keys down.
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Edited the plist, but it wouldn't let me save it? :confused: "Could not be saved?"
 
Bubba Satori said:
22 months for a Leopard speed and stability service pack that is now getting it's own service pack. Vista was bad enough, but my Apple customers expect their macs to just work.
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Oh please, stop being so obtuse. Did SL suddenly stop working?

The sky is falling !!!!
 
Sehnsucht said:
But on the plus side, my printer still works, all my apps still work, and Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ the Messiah, it's fast. It boots in about 8 - 10 seconds. Almost like having a solid-state drive. :D
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Yeah, sleep and wake on my laptop are noticeably faster. I have a 2007 17" MBP and an Oct. 2008 Unibody and I've noticed a general improvement in speed around the board. However, on my 2007 Mini, the speed increase is WAY more pronounced.

I've been happy with SL for the most part. I cloned my machine right before the install in case there were any show stoppers so I could go right back if I needed to. (That, and I ALWAYS do a fresh install and MANUALLY move my stuff over application at a time. It's time consuming, but how often do you reload an OS? For me it's been... once per OS release.)

I just wish I could put them on my G4 Minis... but I figured 10.6 or 10.7 is when they'd drop PPC anyway, so I'm not surprised.
 
gmcalpin said:
Seriously. There's a reason my copy of Snow Leopard is still in its shrink-wrap; I learned my lesson with 10.5.0.
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Why did you ever bother purchasing it at release then? Did you like the box art or something?
 
felt. said:
hopefully this will fix the beachballing under the 9400m!
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I had this problem too on my new 13" MBP, when I installed as an upgrade (it's an upgrade DVD, right :eek: )... I don't have much third party software installed other than Boxee, VLC, and Parallels 4. Was really disappointed with the beachballing at almost every click (ok, exaggerating a LITTLE) so I was going to downgrade back to 10.5.8.

I decided instead to format the drive and install 10.6 clean and it's running fine now. I even let it import my settings from a prior Time Machine backup (it brought in my settings, emails and contacts, and previously installed apps).

I have the $10 UTD version. Hope this helps someone.
 
iAta said:
any idea if it will be compatable with the Golden release 10A432 ? i mean not the retail box .. :confused:
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Either you are a developer or you got 10A432 somewhere. In the latter case, man, don't be cheap, buy the DVD, it's just 29 dollars. Plus you'd better be careful with things you get from the internet, some are doing with SL what others did with the latest iWork distributed "freely" online, that is injecting Trojans.
 
xeex said:
I didn't ask you to stop expressing your opinion, so please stop being a god like figure to tell me what to do. whoever wants to will read it.
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Hello xeex,

this is God.

I heard you say my name and thought I'd see what you were up to.
 
xeex said:
let me correct myself garbage Leopard era since Tiger, always had problems with Leo and now newly installed SL although i have a new computer, its just puzzles me, how apple can cock up so much that even newly released computers have obvious problems running this operating system.

i would have to agree with comments with one user who made them recently. apple totally lost interest in hardware and operating system and moved slowly but surely to iphone gimmick and now this tablet rubbish.
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Leopard ran beautifully for most people from day one. SL for the vast majority is just fine.

If it's supposed to make your machine faster, and it isn't, then something is wrong on your end.

As for your last comment, you're in the minority. Really. The part that for some reason (likely trolling) doesn't reflect Apple's customer satisfaction ratings, year after year after year, survey after survey, report after report.

Oh well.
 
Shop said:
I had this problem too on my new 13" MBP, when I installed as an upgrade (it's an upgrade DVD, right :eek: )... I don't have much third party software installed other than Boxee, VLC, and Parallels 4. Was really disappointed with the beachballing at almost every click (ok, exaggerating a LITTLE) so I was going to downgrade back to 10.5.8.

I decided instead to format the drive and install 10.6 clean and it's running fine now. I even let it import my settings from a prior Time Machine backup (it brought in my settings, emails and contacts, and previously installed apps).

I have the $10 UTD version. Hope this helps someone.
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In my experience on the machines I've installed on, clean installs work well. In fact. Although, I installed SL on my dad's machine and migrated all the applications (including VMware Fusion and Office 2008) and his settings and there hasn't been any issue so far. A clean install + migration (I ignored the "extra" 8gb at the bottom and just moved his stuff + apps) has been great.
 
spazzcat said:
Am I the only one not having any issues? In fact everything is working a lot better.
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Went back to 10.5.8 for the reasons that I was having just too many issues with apps not working as expected. Although snappier, I was hoping for less crackle and pop.
 
markcres said:
It seems odd that Apple are looking for feedback from only a small select 'invitation only' group..... why don't they try to gain as much information from their customers as possible. They could save time and money by just trawling through all the threads on the MacRumors forum !!
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Because there are only so many hours in a day?

Open the process up to everyone in Known Space, and most of the feedback you get will be useless.

Select a group of reviewers that you know are competent to test the candidate release, and you get better input and a far better chance of getting the release worked through in a reasonable amount of time, with a reasonable expectation of success.

And yes, I've dealt with this sort of thing in hardware development over the past 30 years.
 
Mail Rules problem...

Try this yourself....
Enter 25 or more rules and the Rules Window will extend off the bottom of the screen making the CANCEL or ACCEPT button impossible access using the mouse pointer.

This problem has been repeatedly reported and confirmed during phone calls with Apple Support Techs over the last two years.

This is a nuisance problem with a very simple solution that has not caught the proper people's attention. Please pass the word until this gets fixed. Then we can get the problem with Safari rendering this site fixed
http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php
Try scrolling the map. This has been in various forms of broke for a couple years as well.

Jim
 
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