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Not sure why anyone would want this over the cheaper brand new XR, that is unless you are REALLY desperate for that OLED screen.

I've just traded my X in for an XR and it was the best move I made, the XR is the superior phone in my opinion.
The only thing that would hold me back from the XR is the lack of 3D Touch. Haptic Touch that the XR has is no comparison to 3D Touch unfortunately. I heavily use 3D Touch, I’d miss it a lot.
 
wonder what this will do to Xr sales.

Why would the X affect the XR sales? If you think about it, how many average consumers are even aware that Apple is offering a refurbished iPhone X at this point? Likely not many. Still, you have to consider Apple only has so many of these units available, where the XR is far more in stock then a refurbished 2017 iPhone X would be.
 
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$750 for a refurb? Unless it's a simple box repackage (highly unlikely) I don't know why anyone would touch this.
 
769 for a year+ old refurb! i guess a fool and his wallet are truly easily parted. Only apple can sell a refurb (someone elses problem) for nearly full price.
 
Those are just numbers, the XR's screen is perfectly fine. If you hold both together you'll notice slight differences but its not night and day as the numbers would have you believe.

it has the same ppi as my iphone 7 which is to say that yeah its pixel density is sub par for the cost and for being a phone released in 2018
 
Not a terrible price, comparable to the guys selling on web markets ― not to mention that it comes with a warranty. Still too much for a phone though!

Definitely good Apple is offering these again. Should've NEVER stopped selling these due to the XS model; I'm sure a lot of revenue was lost. These could've got highly incentive contractural upgrade agreements locked in.
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XR has garbage for a screen. It's big, but the resolution is terrible - my 4.5 years old iPhone 6+ has a better resolution.
I owned a 7 Plus and a XR and really cannot tell the difference between the two in terms of screen quality.
I have then shown my friends and none could tell the difference.
And if it’s garbage of a screen, then that makes the iPhone 6,7,8 garbage too in your terms no?
 
Did apple ever reveal why they stopped selling the x in the first place?

No, they didn’t. But it was quite obvious why they did. The 2017 X would have been direct competition with the 2018 X, and the 2017 X would detracted sales from the 2018 X, because it would have been discounted, which the consumer would opted for the cheaper X, hurting Apple’s sales of the 2018 X.
 
I owned a 7 Plus and a XR and really cannot tell the difference between the two in terms of screen quality.
I have then shown my friends and none could tell the difference.
And if it’s garbage of a screen, then that makes the iPhone 6,7,8 garbage too in your terms no?

Don't waste your time this has been going on for months regarding Xr screen. Most naysayers haven't even seen it and are just parroting what others are saying or reading numbers on a spec sheet while taking nothing else into consideration. You can go on until you're blue in the face but it's ultimately futile. They're everywhere. They come out of the woodwork, mutter something about ppi and iPhone 4 screen, and then disappear never be to heard from again. :) (or until the next new Xr thread)
 
Don't waste your time this has been going on for months regarding Xr screen. Most naysayers haven't even seen it and are just parroting what others are saying or reading numbers on a spec sheet while taking nothing else into consideration. You can go on until you're blue in the face but it's ultimately futile. They come out of the woodwork, mutter something about ppi and iPhone 4 screen, and scurry back to their lairso never be heard from again. :)

According to these people, my 2017 MBP’s keyboard doesn’t work and my iPhone XR’s screen has a lower resolution than the original Macintosh.
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$750 for a refurb? Unless it's a simple box repackage (highly unlikely) I don't know why anyone would touch this.

Apple refurbs get a new case, screen and battery. Really they’re as good as new.

If you believe in ghosts, it is possible the motherboard has processed some seriously questionable video for the previous owner. Some people might find this disturbing. In this case refurbs are not for you.
 
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It should have been $749 for new iPhone X or XS. Greedy Tim....

$749 for iPhone XS
$649 for iPhone XR with dual camera and HD LCD.
$799 for iPhone XS Max


Yes because components are free and shareholders will stop worrying about silly things like margin.
 
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Not sure why anyone would want this over the cheaper brand new XR, that is unless you are REALLY desperate for that OLED screen.

I'd take the X for the smaller size alone. The Xr's size makes it a non-starter, period.

That aside: 3D Touch, OLED, dual camera, higher resolution - just to name the big ones.

No, they didn’t. But it was quite obvious why they did. The 2017 X would have been direct competition with the 2018 X, and the 2017 X would detracted sales from the 2018 X, because it would have been discounted, which the consumer would opted for the cheaper X, hurting Apple’s sales of the 2018 X.

Well one could say the same for the 7, when the 8 came out, or the 6s, when the 7 came out, and so on.

They killed it because they introduced the Xr. There's really nowhere to price it with the lineup as it is, and in particular, with the Xr priced where it is.

So I guess one could ask why they introduced the Xr at all, which is a fair question. The only good comparison is how they killed the 5 when the 5s and 5c came out, and given how poorly the 5c was received, I'm not sure why they wanted to repeat that experiment.
 
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wonder what this will do to Xr sales.

A brand new, faster Xr vs. a used, first-gen rough draft of a phone? Not the the X is bad, but it’d have to be $700 new for me to consider it on par with the Xr. The Xr’s facial recognition is much quicker, the CPU and COU are much snappier, the rear camera is better overall (IMO) unless you’re also into the first gen, sorta believable grainy portrait mode.

With all the fuss about OLED screens having issues (as overblown as that might be) Is still feel a lot better off with a second gen OLED than the first.

Just my two cents though.
 
Apple should've continued selling the X.

XR - $699
X - $799
XS - $899
XS Max - $999
 
Not sure why anyone would want this over the cheaper brand new XR, that is unless you are REALLY desperate for that OLED screen.

I've just traded my X in for an XR and it was the best move I made, the XR is the superior phone in my opinion.
To each and their own.
XR is way too big.
 
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Doesn't the XR have a lousy, sub-HD resolution screen? Doesn't the X have HD resolution?

Yeah, X has a resolution of 2436 x 1125 (better than HD 1920 x 1080) while the XR has a resolution of 1792 x 828 (worse than HD).

A 720p display is actually the literal definition of “HD,” 1080 is referred to commercially as “full HD” sometimes though
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XR has garbage for a screen. It's big, but the resolution is terrible - my 4.5 years old iPhone 6+ has a better resolution.

It actually doesn’t. They kept the same pixel density, but apple’s lcd panels today now have darker blacks and wide color, so they’re actually very nice. Not as good as OLED, but factually better than your 6+ display
 
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To each and their own.
XR is way too big.
XR will be great bargain (it is priced wat too high is another matter) for those who don't care about OLED or resolution. This is like buying i7 8gen laptop with 720p display. Lack of 3D touch is definitely a major blow for the price it asking.

Main difference or selling point is XR is Dual SIM device though iOS hasn't implemented many things like App Twins, considering 2 Years OLD iPhone X, XR is rather good.
 
I realize oled displays are supposedly better, but don't they also also suffer from image burn-in. I have a friend who has an oled watch and the face on the display periodically jogs up/down/left/right to alleviate the issue...

what are you doing with your iphone that there could be something like image burn?
as long as i know it switches the screen of automatically
 
my friend wants to sell a new guranteed unopened one (iPhone X 64GB) for me at USD 860. However, no apple care, warranty expires. Should I get it?
 
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