Apple Begins Selling Refurbished iPhone X Models Starting at $769

[ROGmaster]

Bet you couldn't tell the difference in a blind test and the Xr would be more color accurate.

I would say he can.
He just needs to open a web page with a lot of text. The difference in sharpness will be noticeable immediately for somebody that is used to more than 326ppi.
Also the difference in contrast/blacks is still quite obvious.

And I doubt the human eye can perceive "color accuracy"(whatever that means) on these screens.
Anyway iphone X's screen is classified as "indistinguishable from perfect" in terms of sRGB compliance so i don't see what advantage in terms of color could the XR's display have.

 

[mattopotamus]

$750 for a refurb? Unless it's a simple box repackage (highly unlikely) I don't know why anyone would touch this.

You must no be too familiar with Apple refurb products. They are as good as brand new.
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Apple should've continued selling the X.

XR - $699
X - $799
XS - $899
XS Max - $999

It would have cannibalized the sales of the XS if they offered a cheaper X.

 

[Goompa]

Idk what ppl would say when Apple sold OLED phones as an only option... xD

 

[Baymowe335]

I would say he can.
He just needs to open a web page with a lot of text. The difference in sharpness will be noticeable immediately for somebody that is used to more than 326ppi.
Also the difference in contrast/blacks is still quite obvious.

And I doubt the human eye can perceive "color accuracy"(whatever that means) on these screens.
Anyway iphone X's screen is classified as "indistinguishable from perfect" in terms of sRGB compliance so i don't see what advantage in terms of color could the XR's display have.

326ppi is "indistinguishable" pixel density too, which is in the Xr. Can't have the argument both ways my man.

 

[kt87]

You must no be too familiar with Apple refurb products. They are as good as brand new.
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It would have cannibalized the sales of the XS if they offered a cheaper X.

With the decrease in iPhone sales lately, giving consumers the option to buy the iPhone X for less could help sell more phones. Sadly, I think Apple was too concern over the Average Selling Price of their product lineup and it ended up hurting sales.

 

[neoelectronaut]

Man that's a tempting price, but still just a bit too big for my tastes. If a 2nd generation iPhone SE doesn't appear by this time next year I'll probably spring for a refurb XS.

 

[JPack]

my friend wants to sell a new guranteed unopened one (iPhone X 64GB) for me at USD 860. However, no apple care, warranty expires. Should I get it?

That's a pretty crazy because a new stock iPhone X retails for $899.

 

[lazard]

$769 for a used phone

 

[neoelectronaut]

$769 for a used phone

Refurbished =/= Used

 

[Macintoshrumors]

Not sure why anyone would want this over the cheaper brand new XR, that is unless you are REALLY desperate for that OLED screen.

I've just traded my X in for an XR and it was the best move I made, the XR is the superior phone in my opinion.

Ehhh I think th XR is pretty much a downgrade from the X. I mean aside from the processor, I don’t think saving a milliosecond makes up for an infirior phone all around.
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Refurbished =/= Used

Wrong, Apple replaces all the parts with new ones and slaps a warranty on if. I wouldn’t by rerub from anyone other than Apple. It’s practically a new phone.

 

[Stuey3D]

Ehhh I think th XR is pretty much a downgrade from the X. I mean aside from the processor, I don’t think saving a milliosecond makes up for an infirior phone all around.
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Wrong, Apple replaces all the parts with new ones and slaps a warranty on if. I wouldn’t by rerub from anyone other than Apple. It’s practically a new phone.

Inferior phone, how?

The screen space is more efficiently used meaning I can get more on the screen at once (see example above in this thread)

The camera for the most part (apart from daylight zooming) is an upgrade.

The battery life is phenomenal and can last an extended days use without a mid afternoon top up unlike my X.

The only thing the X really has going for it over the XR is the OLED is better for movies (if your eyes can handle it, mine can’t)
And it’s slightly smaller so if you have smaller hands/pockets. Otherwise the XR is an upgrade in most aspects.

 

[JPack]

Ehhh I think th XR is pretty much a downgrade from the X. I mean aside from the processor, I don’t think saving a milliosecond makes up for an infirior phone all around.
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Wrong, Apple replaces all the parts with new ones and slaps a warranty on if. I wouldn’t by rerub from anyone other than Apple. It’s practically a new phone.

XR has a better main camera, larger display, and battery life.

Apple only replaces the battery and chassis. The display, logic board, and other components are salvaged.

 

[neoelectronaut]

Wrong, Apple replaces all the parts with new ones and slaps a warranty on if. I wouldn’t by rerub from anyone other than Apple. It’s practically a new phone.

I think you're misinterpreting "=/=", which is a facsimile of "Does Not Equal" meaning "Refurb does not equal Used"

Perhaps I should have dug up the proper unicode and used "≠" instead?

 

[bj097]

Here in my country , the price of X 64G and XR 128GB are pretty close. I have hard time choosing which one. I will probably use my phone for another 3 to 4 years so I have to be careful. Both X and XR, in my opinion has their pros and cons.

What I like about XR
- bigger screen size
- bigger battery
- larger capacity for the same price (128GB)
- better CPU
- stereo voice recording

What I like about X
- obviously better and more colorful screen
- dual camera
- "thinner" edges
- lighter in weight

What do you think? I can't decide. Any advice?

 

[B4U]

XR will be great bargain (it is priced wat too high is another matter) for those who don't care about OLED or resolution. This is like buying i7 8gen laptop with 720p display. Lack of 3D touch is definitely a major blow for the price it asking.

Main difference or selling point is XR is Dual SIM device though iOS hasn't implemented many things like App Twins, considering 2 Years OLD iPhone X, XR is rather good.

Actually, the iPhone X is not yet close to even 1.5 years old.
Dual SIM, again, to each and their own. Everyone has a different use case for their devices. But something fundamental cannot be changed, which is the huge size.

 

[ROGmaster]

326ppi is "indistinguishable" pixel density too, which is in the Xr. Can't have the argument both ways my man.

No it's not.

 

[Baymowe335]

No it's not.

It was according to your leader and yes, it really is.

 

[bj097]

The only advantage of X over XR is the outlook design and screen. It's not deniable that obviously better color on X better design (thinner), but anything else, XR is better, e.g. chip, battery life, eSIM, express cards with power reserve, stereo sound recording, XR has a better future proof

 

[Freakonomics101]

I realize oled displays are supposedly better, but don't they also also suffer from image burn-in. I have a friend who has an oled watch and the face on the display periodically jogs up/down/left/right to alleviate the issue...

I have not seen a single iPhone X with burn-in. The quality is excellent.

 

[Coby1man]

It should have been $749 for new iPhone X or XS. Greedy Tim....

$749 for iPhone XS
$649 for iPhone XR with dual camera and HD LCD.
$799 for iPhone XS Max

[doublepost=1549474502][/doublepost]I don't understand this sentiment at all. Why is Tim Cook greedy for pricing a product at a price that sells? Even if it were priced at $2,000 it would still not make Tim Cook "greedy", perhaps he could be considered a bad CEO for pricing a product too high, but definitely not greedy. It's not like an iPhone is a basic human right that is owed to everyone.

 

[ArtOfWarfare]

A 720p display is actually the literal definition of “HD,” 1080 is referred to commercially as “full HD” sometimes though
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It actually doesn’t. They kept the same pixel density, but apple’s lcd panels today now have darker blacks and wide color, so they’re actually very nice. Not as good as OLED, but factually better than your 6+ display

Incorrect.

My 4.5 year old 6+ is 401 PPI. The XR is 326 PPI.

Also, Nintendo was given endless crap for the Wii not putting out 1080p and so it wasn't HD. Now suddenly everyone is acting like 720p was adequate all along.

 

[Jakewilk]

Incorrect.

My 4.5 year old 6+ is 401 PPI. The XR is 326 PPI.

Also, Nintendo was given endless crap for the Wii not putting out 1080p and so it wasn't HD. Now suddenly everyone is acting like 720p was adequate all along.

You’re right on the screen res, thought you said 6s, my bad.

But 326 ppi is good enough, which means 720p has been good enough all along, as long as it’s on a small enough screen. And I say that as I type on my 326p iphone 7. Just my own opinion though

 

[bj097]

Hi all. I am worried that my local non-Apple retailers sell refurbished or used iPhone while I intend to buy a new one. Is there anything or different I can check within the setting that I can make sure that the phone is brand new instead of refurbished or used? I don't have a lot technical knowledge

 

[neoelectronaut]

You’re right on the screen res, thought you said 6s, my bad.

But 326 ppi is good enough, which means 720p has been good enough all along, as long as it’s on a small enough screen. And I say that as I type on my 326p iphone 7. Just my own opinion though

Pixels per inch and lines of resolution are different types of measurement.

 

[Jakewilk]

Pixels per inch and lines of resolution are different types of measurement.

You’re right, ppi is important in a phone, but lines of resolution is relative and therefore not important