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Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]
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To be fair, iOS 7 ran really, really poorly.
As iOS gets updated, it uses more and more resources and processes.
There are countless "iOS ___ killed my ___" all over the place. Some common ones are "iOS 7 killed my iPhone 4", "iOS 11 killed my iPhone 6", etc.
I won't go as far to say that Apple does that deliberately, but I don't think they do much to make it lean and efficient to prevent slowdowns. I also don't think the added features account for the amount that some devices slow down (ie. what changed to make Messages, Music, Mail, etc open so much slower than they used to?).
The throttling compounded the issue as it was generally accompanied by an iOS update that included the code.
This happened waaaaaaaaaayyy before iOS 10 or 11. If Apple didn't throttle you due to battery condition, they throttle you for some other reason.
One way or another, they are going to get you.
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Apple came out and said they DO slow down old devices. Who are you to deny their claim?
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You would think these lawyers might have read the iOS software agreement that every iPhone owner has to check off during set up. As things stand, they have no leg to stand on. In fact, we need tort reform to prevent frivolous lawsuits like these. These people should have to pay a penalty.
Yep, that's what I said. Glad you've read all my posts about the subject. Thank you for being obsessed with me, it's flattering .
did not read it either, my bad and I agree with you, lawyers need to carefully build their case
but where is the passage stating ios is allowed to permanently alter hardware specifications to hide design flaws?
There’s another post here saying that Li-ion batteries are considered at end-of-life when they degrade to below 80%. That’s because their internal resistance goes up as their capacity goes down, meaning they get hotter and deliver a lower voltage for a given current load. The low voltage leads to a greater chance of various failure modes.
very good posts from this member
let me quote both of them here
like the explanation AND the conclusion
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did not multiquote
here is the first one
Right up front at the very beginning of the document.
You and I don't own the software. Apple can do whatever they want when they want. And all iOS users agreed to it.
Full stop, end of story.
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thank you for quoting and yes, I know we do not own the software
I also know Apple wants to sell us the underclocking via software update as a feature enhancement, in line with T&C
problem is: this ain't no feature enhancement. you (and Apple) can argue around this in any way you want
underclocking a most likely badly designed phone without telling anyone is no feature enhancement, no way
to even call this a feature is a slap in everyones face
it takes courage to do that, it really does
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i have been following this thread and it
does not matter if you are an apple supporter
or non-supporter, the truth needs to come out.
if apple did in fact did something wrong, something
unethical i hope we get the truth. so far all apple has
done is to release a statement saying the throttling is
a feature to extend the life of your device. and we have
not heard anything from them since.
is apple just waiting for the storm to die down and people
will just forget all about this?
are they just waiting until the end of january when they
will reveal that they sale a record amount of phone and become
a trillion dollar company, and everybody will forget about this
throttling incident?
is it possible for them just to keep quiet from now onward and
people will forget?
i mean they still have the deal with the lawsuits and everything.
what actions and plans are they most likely to use to get out
of this mess?
i just hope that the truth is reveal and if apple did in fact did something
unethical , they will not get away with it.
does not matter if you are an apple supporter
or non-supporter, the truth needs to come out.
if apple did in fact did something wrong, something
unethical i hope we get the truth. so far all apple has
done is to release a statement saying the throttling is
a feature to extend the life of your device. and we have
not heard anything from them since.
is apple just waiting for the storm to die down and people
will just forget all about this?
are they just waiting until the end of january when they
will reveal that they sale a record amount of phone and become
a trillion dollar company, and everybody will forget about this
throttling incident?
is it possible for them just to keep quiet from now onward and
people will forget?
i mean they still have the deal with the lawsuits and everything.
what actions and plans are they most likely to use to get out
of this mess?
i just hope that the truth is reveal and if apple did in fact did something
unethical , they will not get away with it.
I would imagine that Apple has probably been advised to say no more because of these lawsuits by now.
Agree with you, well Apple should have prepared and planned everything before they use this cheap shot. It is just like LV started to use plastic to make bag but people would just pay because of the LV logo. Apple knows most of the people would not read or care tech news like this, they just feel their old iPhone get much slower then buy a new iPhone X or 8. Apple must have considered lawsuit part and people cannot really do anything about it. Apple must have seriously calculate the pro and con and this way they make much more money.
It is funny iPhone X is the fastest phone now, but Apple will slow it down to like 40% once there the next iPhone is on sales.
By that logic, Apple can render all iPhone 6/7 useless tomorrow and there is nothing one can do about it because of that contract.
What everyone clicked 'Agree' to without reading is called an Adhesion Contract.
Nonsense
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This tells you that:
A) Mobile tech hit a point of diminishing returns with the releasing of the i6/S6
B) New phones are too damn expensive .
The pixelbook and chrome book are convertibles. They aren't traditional tablets which is why they don't run Android.I may be wrong but they don't have full access to all Android apps. I wanted a proper tablet from Google like the Nexus 7 2013 and Nexus 10. It baffles me why Google stopped making tablets considering the fact that the Nexus 7 had a better display and was an overall better tablet than the iPad at that time. The Gear S3 runs Tizen. I want a watch running Android Wear, not Samsung's proprietary OS.
The iPad has a lot of tablet exclusive apps which chromeOS doesn't
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Geekbench has said since 11.2 Apple has started to throttle iPhone 7. Apple has already said throttling is normal and expected on all iPhones in the future. The exceptions are the devices not affected. It depends on the defect rate of batteries inside the phones.
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Apple has outright admitted they slow down older iPhones.
Had to register to post on this.
I bought my first iphone a 6s 2 years ago to finally give apple a go. I enjoyed it, not sure if I enjoyed it more than android but I thought it was a great phone. One thing i really liked was that apps seemed to crash less than on android, even it was only a minor difference. it felt more together than the note 4 i came from.
My phone was fine for 2 years, performed great, then suddenly the day i updated to ios 11, it turned into a really frustrating experience. Every action was slow, press an icon, open a web page, it all suddenly was accompanied with a multi second wait.
Im normally someone who likes to buy flagship and keep for 2/3 years. I was very happy to keep the 6s for another year and if it wasnt for the sudden complete drop in day to day use I would have kept it.
This was before this issue was raised, so im not basing it on benchmark just day to day use. My biggest problem is that apple seemed to have applied this "feature" on too wide a basis. My phone went from being good to being extremely frustrating overnight. I had no shutdowns although the battery wasnt lasting like it used to, but it would easily keep working all the way to 1% if i hadnt reached a charger.
I switched back to android because I wasnt impressed with the phone not being useful after the update, I assumed it was ios11 adding more bloat, but it was actually intentional by Apple. i had a 3 year old Note 4 before this and that still runs at a decent speed, with the same battery i bought it with.
I not a fanboy of any brand, I like my ipad, i like the look of my wifes mac book pro, I liked my iphone 6s (still just about prefer android) but this abrupt huge drop in usability, not just out and out performance was disappointing. I cant believe apple didnt use this battery issue as a way to encourage some people to upgrade.
I bought my first iphone a 6s 2 years ago to finally give apple a go. I enjoyed it, not sure if I enjoyed it more than android but I thought it was a great phone. One thing i really liked was that apps seemed to crash less than on android, even it was only a minor difference. it felt more together than the note 4 i came from.
My phone was fine for 2 years, performed great, then suddenly the day i updated to ios 11, it turned into a really frustrating experience. Every action was slow, press an icon, open a web page, it all suddenly was accompanied with a multi second wait.
Im normally someone who likes to buy flagship and keep for 2/3 years. I was very happy to keep the 6s for another year and if it wasnt for the sudden complete drop in day to day use I would have kept it.
This was before this issue was raised, so im not basing it on benchmark just day to day use. My biggest problem is that apple seemed to have applied this "feature" on too wide a basis. My phone went from being good to being extremely frustrating overnight. I had no shutdowns although the battery wasnt lasting like it used to, but it would easily keep working all the way to 1% if i hadnt reached a charger.
I switched back to android because I wasnt impressed with the phone not being useful after the update, I assumed it was ios11 adding more bloat, but it was actually intentional by Apple. i had a 3 year old Note 4 before this and that still runs at a decent speed, with the same battery i bought it with.
I not a fanboy of any brand, I like my ipad, i like the look of my wifes mac book pro, I liked my iphone 6s (still just about prefer android) but this abrupt huge drop in usability, not just out and out performance was disappointing. I cant believe apple didnt use this battery issue as a way to encourage some people to upgrade.
Apple makes sure you feel the pain and almost cannot even normally use the phone. Fanboys here calls it a "function"
Yes, and at times we are told you are too old, nervous system not sensitive enough etc to feel the difference.
Thats why i felt the need to register after 2 years of only reading. Its not just benchmark scores its absolutely real world use. And not just reduced performance but actually frustrating to use, Im not even a big gamer on my phone. Web browsing became terrible.
My friend mentioned that her iphone 7 had slowed after the update, which if it is for the same reason, then that is pretty poor to have such reduced usability after 1 year.
Apple should have had a clear alert if the battery was so degraded and give us the option. I would have replaced the battery and used it another year if I'd known that was a thing, but even so i dont believe my battery was that bad. I lasted most of my day on moderate use and i never had abrupt shutdowns, it would always go down to 1-3% before shutting down if I hadn't managed to charge.
Yep. It is a cover-up for bad design.
Plain and simple.
You have to give it to Apple, their command of doublespeak is breathtakingly.
"It is a feature!"
And users here defend it.
Unbelievable