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And just how much 'slower' was this practical Apple implementation? Trivial! More speed can be gained by people clearing some of the files and empty some storage space for iOS for work more efficiently. What a frivolous law suit, again!
I advise you to go read more. On this issue before making such an ignorant comment.

Edit: in fact firewood’s comment right above mine describes the core of the design issue
 
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Ok, fair enough. I'll tweak the analogy: Toyota throttling my car so the engine speed is capped at 3000 RPM, limiting my peak acceleration.

If your Toyota would shut down completely if you went over 3,000 RPM due to a faulty part then yea I’d hope they would do something to stop it.
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Well mine and all of my friends did get slower. And i have a 7+ which worked perfectly on ios 10. I ended up charging my phone twice a day with iOS 11. Having the latest device gives you the best experience, until the next one comes out.

If you have a bad battery, you should get it fixed. This only happened to people with faulty batteries.
 
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And just how much 'slower' was this practical Apple implementation? Trivial! More speed can be gained by people clearing some of the files and empty some storage space for iOS for work more efficiently. What a frivolous law suit, again!

none of which affects CPU speed/frequency. Please follow this story from the beginning.

600 is considerably less than 1848
 
100% charged battery, all apps closed. CPU speed was 911 Mhz. Yes it is a bad thing when my phone is running slower than a 5s when I paid for a 6s

I’ve never used one, but you keep this benchmark app running for the day or something? TechCrunch said it occurred when you run a benchmark app.
 
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Simple. dont upgrade the software.

I don't care about class action lawsuits, and I don't think Apple did this on purpose (to force upgrades), but this is downright funny. Not upgrading in Apple land is certainly not simple.
 
If your Toyota would shut down completely if you went over 3,000 RPM due to a faulty part then yea I’d hope they would do something to stop i

yes , fix the faulty part rather than placing a band-aid on it
 
I have a question... why wouldn’t it simply be that when the CPU clocks up during an intense task, it simply runs down the battery quicker? Isn’t that what happened with all older phones? I’ve never had an older phone turn off because the CPU was drawing too much power, that I know of. The battery simply drains faster as it gets older. Is my reasoning wrong here? At the very least, this is what I expect a lot of consumers to think and then draw the conclusion that Apple was throttling speeds in a nefarious way. Could someone explain this to me? (Btw, not a joke, I seriously don’t know the answer to this).

Imagine yourself running a sprint and getting breathless halfway. If you keep pushing yourself to run at your current pace, you are only going to overexert yourself and suffer a heart attack. The only real recourse is to slow down your current pace so that your body has the opportunity to recover from the strain.

My guess is because the older processors were never that fast to begin with, there’s nothing to throttle. Conversely, the phones today are designed for quick bursts of performance in line with how many people use their phones. A quick sprint that lets you quickly accomplish what you want to get done, but it quickly becomes unsustainable beyond a certain point.

It’s basically like a marathon vs a sprint. With the former, you don’t get your speeds throttled, but you never get to enjoy the faster speeds either. The inverse is true with the latter.

At the end of the day, it’s about trade offs. And Apple made a judgement call which didn’t sit well with many users. That’s all there is to it.
 
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I’ve never used one, but you keep this benchmark app running for the day or something? TechCrunch said it occurred when you run a benchmark app.

its not a benchmark app, its a simple app that shows the phones details including processor operating fequency. phone sitting idle with a fully charge battery and the cpu clock is at 911 Mhz, thats a problem
 
Cue the clown parade.

Which clowns? The class action lawyer clowns, the conspiracy theorist clowns who think Tim Cook is doing it personally to get you to upgrade to a new phone, or the Apple apologist clowns who see absolutely no issue here, and think the slower speeds are in people's heads (even after Apple admitted it's real)?

It's like The Battle of the Three (Clown) Armies
 
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So you want a phone that randomly shuts down and could pose a potential hazard?

No i want a phone that displays the remaining % correctly so i can plan and charge accordingly. Obviously the percentage would deop faster the older the device becomes.

If a phone „just turns off“ something clearly went wrong during development
 
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So I’m a little confused here. Is the throttling down power for iPhones with bad batteries or anytime the battery is too weak? For the record, I’ve had my iPhone 7 Plus for 361 days (turned it on Christmas Day last year) and charge it to 100% every day and usually keep it above 50% for better or worse and here is my Geekbench score as of tonight 12/21/2017:
 
its not a benchmark app, its a simple app that shows the phones details including processor operating fequency. phone sitting idle with a fully charge battery and the cpu clock is at 911 Mhz, thats a problem

Okay so if this was happening, I would get my battery fixed. Why not do that?
 
No i want a phone that displays the remaining % correctly so i can plan and charge accordingly. Obviously the percentage would deop faster the older the device becomes.

If a phone „just turns off“ something clearly went wrong during development

And an adjustment to the battery life rating. If your battery cannot maintain the OS without throttling down the CPU or shutting down, then it's not "OK" and healthy.
 
Users: “why you slow our phones down?!”

Apple: “your battery can’t hold the charge necessary for some tasks. We want you to use your phone for longer.”

Users: “can you believe Apple just wants us to buy more phones?! Let’s sue!!”

But they slow it down so that it BARELY functions - it’s really a mess once the throttling kicks in. So your argument fails.

What they should do, seeing as I am paying close to $1k for recent phones, is to offer a reasonably priced battery replacement instead of slowing it down so it’s painful to use.

But they would not prefer that you bought a new $1000 iPhone X instead of a new battery. Seeing as they are suffering financially o_O
 
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If you bring in a phone with a faulty battery, they fix it. The car isn’t gonna fix itself.

People who have this particular problem have been refused battery replacement from Apple because apparently Apple tests aren’t picking up this particular issue. Batteries reporting themselves still at over 80% life left, yet can’t supply necessary voltage aren’t being accepted. Even for some paying customers.
 
Okay so if this was happening, I would get my battery fixed. Why not do that?
The issue prior is the battery showed green, and Apple said everything was OK (I talked to several techs before this stuff started coming out last week). I since replaced my battery, and my iP6 is working again. They need to adjust the battery to "poor performance" and let me know I need to replace it.
 
View attachment 743114 So I’m a little confused here. Is the throttling down power for iPhones with bad batteries or anytime the battery is too weak? For the record, I’ve had my iPhone 7 Plus for 361 days (turned it on Christmas Day last year) and charge it to 100% every day and usually keep it above 50% for better or worse and here is my Geekbench score as of tonight 12/21/2017:

It’s possible that your battery hasn’t degraded to the point where it needs to be throttled yet. Battery life is a very finicky concept and no two batteries are going to behave identically in this regard.

That said, it would seem that more people are holding on to their iPhones for longer than two years. This will definitely have to be something Apple addresses in a more permanent fashion (eg: relaxing their battery replacement policies, and being more upfront about this issue).
 
Okay so if this was happening, I would get my battery fixed. Why not do that?

Apple may not fix it for you because, despite the iOS detection and throttling, their separate diagnostic software says the battery is fine. In that scenario, geniuses are told to refuse battery service to the customer.

The next logical step is would you trust a third party to install a safe battery instead of Apple? I would not.
 



Apple yesterday confirmed that it has implemented power management features in older iPhones to improve performance and prevent unexpected shutdowns as the battery in the devices starts to degrade, and this admission has now led to a class action lawsuit, which was first noticed by TMZ.

Los Angeles residents Stefan Bogdanovich and Dakota Speas, represented by Wilshire Law Firm, this morning filed a lawsuit with the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California accusing Apple of slowing down their older iPhone models when new models come out.

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According to the lawsuit, Bogdanovich and Speas have owned the iPhone 7 and several older iPhone models and have noticed that their "older iPhone models slows (sic) down when new models come out." The two say they did not consent to have Apple slow down their devices, nor were they able to "choose whether they preferred to have their iPhones slower than normal."

They're seeking both California and Nationwide class action certification, which would cover all persons residing in the United States who have owned iPhone models older than the iPhone 8.

Apple yesterday addressed speculation that it throttles the performance of older iPhones with degraded batteries, confirming that there are power management features in place to attempt to prolong the life of the iPhone and its battery. Apple implemented these features last year in iOS 10.2.1.

When an iPhone's battery health starts to decline, the battery is not capable of supplying enough power to the iPhone in times of peak processor usage, which can lead to shutdowns, Apple says.The lawsuit seemingly misrepresents Apple's original statement and suggests the plaintiffs and their lawyers do not understand Apple's explanation for how iPhone power management features work and why they were implemented, given the lawsuit's suggestion that it's tied to the release of new devices. As explained by Apple, when certain iPhone models hit a peak of processor power, a degraded battery is sometimes unable to provide enough juice, leading to a shutdown. Apple says it "smooths out" these peaks by limiting the power draw from the battery or by spreading power requests over several cycles.

Lithium-ion batteries degrade over time by nature, and this eventual wearing out addressed by the power management features is unrelated to the release of new iPhone models.

Apple does not deny that iPhones with older batteries can sometimes see slower performance, but power management is a feature that Apple says has been implemented to improve overall performance by preventing an iPhone from shutting down completely rather than a feature that's been implemented to force users to upgrade by deliberately slowing devices.

As many people have suggested, Apple has done a poor job of explaining why it has implemented these power feature management and how the state of the battery ultimately affects iPhone performance. More transparent information about battery health should be provided, and customers should be better informed when their batteries start to degrade so they can choose whether or not to pay for a replacement. Apple may also need to relax its policies on when customers can pay for a battery replacement, as currently, a battery can't be replaced unless in-store equipment registers it as near failing.

An iPhone's battery is designed to retain 80 percent of its original capacity at 500 complete charge cycles. A defective battery that does not meet those parameters can be replaced for free for customers who have AppleCare+ or who have devices still under warranty.

For out of warranty customers, Apple offers a battery replacement service, which costs $79 plus $6.95 for shipping.

The lawsuit is demanding the replacement of the old iPhone and compensation for loss of use, loss of value, the purchase of new batteries, ascertainable losses in the form of the deprivation of the value of the iPhone, and overpayments because Plaintiffs and Class Members "did not receive what they paid for" when Apple interfered with the usage of their iPhones.

Article Link: Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models'

This lawsuit is utterly idiotic. Anyone who think otherwise should read this: Is Apple Slowing Down Old iPhones? Questions and Answers - The New York Times https://apple.news/ASPJ2pUWPR0C5p-c0IEBcmg

This is what happens when illiterate people and opportunistic lawyers combine
 
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