Just because you say it doesn't make it so...it just makes you sound superior. >80% of smartphone owners would disagree with you. Funny, though, is most people don't see it as a contest. They use what they like.
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Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]
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Just because you say it doesn't make it so...it just makes you sound superior. >80% of smartphone owners would disagree with you. Funny, though, is most people don't see it as a contest. They use what they like.
SOB's got me on this one. 6 plus slowed way down after an IOS update, not any deteriorating battery that I noted. I bought an 8 Plus because the 6 Plus was hard to deal with. Thousand bucks. I could've kept my 6 Plus. I liked it. Still had two day battery life. SOB's. I am really at my wits end with Apple. This is a planned obsolescence. Period.
If the phone is shutting down, then it has a problem and Apple needs to fix it. Nobody needs to guess. It’s a defect.
Apple avoided a recall with this stunt. Now it’s gonna bite them in the ass. To save a buck, they are going to end up paying 10x more, incur a hit to its reputation and brand that’s much more painful than any monetary penalty and equally as bad, have the heavy hands of the government on you. Not so much the US, but the watch out for the EU. They are already pissed Apple is evading taxes over there.
Got a nexus 5 for a backup device still, and sideloaded 7.1. It’s remarkably smooth for a device it’s age.
Not a great device by today’s standards by any means, but more recent android runs pretty dang smooth.
My s6 is still even getting patches and runs smoother on its latest patch level (last months security patch) than it did when new on 6. Android has come a long way from its past
So your expensive $1000 iPhone X will be throttled next year and possibly rendered useless. Apple wants you to buy a new iPhone every year and that's the only reason why they throttled you. Batteries don't go bad at exactly one year anniversary of your iPhone, and if they do, then your phone shouldn't cost $1000.
Yeah it's definitely an issue that has been reported by users on MR, Twitter and Reddit.
Steve Troughton-Smith (who is fairly respected) tweeted this earlier:
https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/944004306692399104
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It doesn't render phones useless.
They are doing it to prevent phones from randomly shutting down, which would be far worse for most people.
Apple certainly doesn't expect people to buy new iPhones every year.
And Apple also certainly understand pissing customers off is not a good way to keep customers buying new iPhones. This is why they obsess over the custom sat metric time and again.
Really depends on what we're talking about and the consumer's jurisdiction - just to be clear that I'm not saying you're incorrect - just that sometimes there are cases where the terms are not legally enforceable/invalid. An EULA is not is not always ironclad.
I'd love to see somebody this, but I won't hold my breath.
Damage to Apple's reputation is done. Apple got caught.
Um no, that’s not what is happening here.
The throttling was introduced to prevent random shutdowns in phones whose batteries have degraded through normal wear and tear. There was nothing to recall because there was nothing faulty with the phones in the first place. Apple has even gone so far as to assert that they will continue to do this for subsequent iPhones via future software updates.
I don’t see this lawsuit gaining traction, much less Apple actually losing it because it can be argued that Apple is technically doing the right thing here from an engineering perspective. That you believe a better solution exists has no bearing on the merits of what Apple has done here.
Nor do I think it will send people running to Android.
That said, this may well have long term repercussions for Apple’s reputation and the willingness of its users to update their software in the future. In the short run, Apple will likely have to do a lot of firefighting. They could start by providing a clear and extensive explanation on what is going on. My belief is this will stop a good portion of the bleeding once people see that Apple is being rationale and is genuinely looking out for the user. Apple can then assess whether additional information about the battery and throttling can be included in iPhone settings, and where.
you have that much faith in that they are so transparent on what is really going on?
Said who? Just read the NYT story on it. Very downplayed. To the people who want apple’s reputation damaged it is, to the remainder it isn’t.
Just trying to be the voice of reason here amidst this maelstrom of chaos.
Just my US$0.02 on the issue, as a result of Johnny Ive's obsession with thinness Apple used a battery that was too small to power the phone. Apple's "fix" to throttle the CPU was an attempt to mitigate the design flaw.
I think I'm now seeing why some people are so upset about this and I'm beginning to agree with them. Apple advertised a certain level of performance, a flagship level of performance, and six months later intentionally degraded that performance without notifying the owners.
I don't care if you are Apple, Samsung, Motorola, HTC, LG or OnePlus, if you charge flagship prices you need to deliver flagship performance through the life of the product. Anything less is dishonest.
It's like an auto manufacturer promising a certain level of fuel economy and issuing a firmware upgrade that degrades fuel economy so that the car can meet emission requirements.
I'm starting to think Apple might be in real trouble on this one.
I think I'm now seeing why some people are so upset about this and I'm beginning to agree with them. Apple advertised a certain level of performance, a flagship level of performance, and six months later intentionally degraded that performance without notifying the owners.
I don't care if you are Apple, Samsung, Motorola, HTC, LG or OnePlus, if you charge flagship prices you need to deliver flagship performance through the life of the product. Anything less is dishonest.
It's like an auto manufacturer promising a certain level of fuel economy and issuing a firmware upgrade that degrades fuel economy so that the car can meet emission requirements.
I'm starting to think Apple might be in real trouble on this one.
Um, your phone was already programmed to slow down functions if battery degradation was detected. What are you talking about?
I was going to post something similar to this. I agree with you 110% and I notice it increasingly with newer articles that are published here. There is a slight dash of bias. I get that this website is MacRumors, but information (especially something serious like this) should be presented in a completely neutral way. It degrades the credibility of the staff here.
I think it's hard to deny Apple will have been harmed by these stories to some extent. But I doubt it will do any serious harm to them. Investors have certainly brushed it off.
That said, if Apple were to lose the lawsuit (I don't think they will) that would be much more toxic.
Dear heavens man, my 6 plus crawled after an IOS update. Why did it happen at that time? This wasn't a slow battery wear issue, this was overnight. If I get two days battery throttled, maybe I want one day at full power. I wasn't given the option. Nor was I informed of any "help" Apple was providing to save me from something I had no issue with.
But it worked. I bought an iPhone 8 plus shortly after release because the 6 Plus ALL OF A SUDDEN slowed to a crawl at the same time. I'm a big supporter of Apple, but this stinks to high heaven.
I've never noticed any slowing down, but after 2 years the battery in my 6S is awful. I'm starting to need to charge it twice a day.
Ok, then back that statement up and perform no software upgrades after you buy it. Since you think they should have no involvement with your property.
No, they're laggy out of the box. I was thinking of switching to Android, but a trip to the AT&T store changed that.
There are a bunch of lawsuits that are still unsettled; this will be one of the many...unless it is tossed.
This could be quite serious for Apple.
I understand their reasoning behind it, but my iPhone 6S literally went from a fantastic device that I was happy with to a painfully slow and unresponsive device almost over night. That's not OK and not what I paid for.
I'd accept a free battery replacement.
I understand their reasoning behind it, but my iPhone 6S literally went from a fantastic device that I was happy with to a painfully slow and unresponsive device almost over night. That's not OK and not what I paid for.
I'd accept a free battery replacement.
Then you may as well include every PC manufacturer and android smartphone oem in the lawsuit while you are at it.